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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter63 View Post
    Very nice.......Thanks for posting.
    I guess the Yukon is close enough....LOL


    Skagway on up was the gateway to the Yukon , and though countries will draw arbitrary lines and call 'em "borders" anything east of a line drawn straight north from Tok is pretty much " The Yukon".

    As I stated ,the country , especially north of the park doesn't suffer fools gladly. Romantic notions developed from watching too many episodes of Bear Grylls unutterable crap can get you killed. Folks would be infinitely better off to study folks such as Dick Proenneke and Heimo and Edna Korth , among others.


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    Just pulling your leg a bit.......we down here consider that all "Up Nort"....Don't cha know.
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    He should have hung out with the Alaskan Bush people! They would have taught him how to survive......LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete lynch View Post
    How about stupidity?
    I think you hit the nail on the head ! Go into the a harsh wilderness with hardly any equipment and no training or experience has stupid written all over it !
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    READ The web page The New Yorker put out on the issue - Look for how McCandless Died. It is a fascinating read

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    You may think that you know fear
    even the grip of panic sheer
    but true terror makes those feelings meek and mild
    the terror that will rise
    in the Blue Bush crazy eyes
    of those who have survived the Indigo Wild

    They mutter and they rave
    of secrets dire and grave
    and ghosts of gods and temples made of flame
    and they swear they'll never return
    to where demon armies learn
    how to torture, how to torment, how to maim

    But still there are those
    whose path rarely goes
    through the tunnels of reason and of sense
    the poets and the dreamers
    the revolutionary schemers
    who travel unknown forests dark and dense

    There are things in there that roar
    that bite and claw and gore
    and things that are too horrible to bear
    they'll eat your heart and brain
    they'll take pleasure in your pain
    and dance upon your bones within their lair

    But for some the lure of danger
    can make sanity a stranger
    and set them on a course for risk and gold
    they enter with hopes high
    with adventure in their eye
    and leave with spirits broken and hearts cold

    And every Mongi knows
    from the Uppers to the Lows
    that no matter which way Heaven's path may lie
    that the quickest way to Hell
    for the In-betweens as well
    is to take the trail that turns as blue as sky

    A trapper name of Zinn
    thought he would his forture win
    with furs and pelts of rarest, deepest blue
    they found his bloody remains
    minus flesh and guts and brains
    leaving only that too difficult to chew

    Then there was the scholar who
    wishing to learn from the Bush Blue
    took pains to guard his safety and his life
    but what he learned drove him mad
    took what reason he still had
    and guttted it as cleanly as a knife

    So beware all creatures blue
    the shagamaw and the gumberoo
    the deathdiver and the agropelter
    but most fearsome of all
    are the Oxes, fierce and tall
    who even the devil wouldn't shelter

    Nothing is as it seems
    in the indigo land of dreams
    where space and mind and time are all the same
    where the thing you most despise
    has your mate's beloved eyes
    and all your pride and honor turns to shame

    But if battle's what you want
    if pain and madness do not daunt
    then the Indigo Wild's the place you want to go
    for there's always something to fight
    every bloody day and night
    and every size and shape and breed of hungry foe

    It has been around forever
    and it will show its mercy never
    not to soldier, not to seeker, not to priest
    whatever secrets it might hold
    whatever power, truths, or gold
    it will give them not to Mongi, not to beast

    For some it is red
    that paralyzes with dread
    the color both blood and fire's child
    but even worse than that hue
    is the eerie, fearsome blue
    of the place called the Indigo Wild

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    Just a little only-slightly-relevant weirdness for everyone's entertainment. Would hate for ya'll to get bored with the same old same ole.

    ...if non-fiction doesn't save someone, maybe something from fiction would?
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    A trapper name of Zinn
    thought he would his forture win
    with furs and pelts of rarest, deepest blue
    they found his bloody remains
    minus flesh and guts and brains
    leaving only that too difficult to chew
    My favorite part!

    What's a Mongi? My finger is too tired from scrolling through that whole poem to do a Google search myself.
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    mongi
    an evil person

    a pervert

    a female

    a verbal hole filler

    From urban dictionary.
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    Sorry 'bout that guys...actually it's a kind of species or culture from some sci-fi book. Don't remember which or what. But so any definition from our real world wouldn't apply. Only those according to that fictional world. It's 'made up' stuff.

    The poem itself only stuck with me because, underneath it all, I appreciate the strength of the ecosystem being spoken of. It bespeaks an untamedness of that wilderness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1stimestar View Post
    mongi
    an evil person

    a pervert

    a female

    a verbal hole filler

    From urban dictionary.
    For some reason, I am not surprised to see one word that is usable for all four terms! (Hides from wife!)
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