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    A .357's effectiveness on a hog depends on a few things. The first being exactly the type of ammo you are using. Another variable is how far are you from the target because pistol rounds are very limited in nature. Even with a .357, past 35yds you will start to see bullet drop and accuracy take effect because gravity and wind are the enemies of pistol rounds at distance. A third variable would be the size of the game you come across. Bigger the pig, the less effect the round will be.

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    Totally depends on the size of the hog and where you hit him!

    I am sure a .357 would kill a hog, but I would want to be in a tree stand for a handgun hog hunt. I have known of things getting a bit confused and the shooting looking like something from a Yosemite Sam cartoon during hog hunts. I had one friend that got chased up a tree by a big Georgia hog on his muzzle loading hunt.

    I would also trash the modern fan-boy recommendations for defense ammo and go with a 150-158 grain soft point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by natertot View Post
    A .357's effectiveness on a hog depends on a few things. The first being exactly the type of ammo you are using. Another variable is how far are you from the target because pistol rounds are very limited in nature. Even with a .357, past 35yds you will start to see bullet drop and accuracy take effect because gravity and wind are the enemies of pistol rounds at distance. A third variable would be the size of the game you come across. Bigger the pig, the less effect the round will be.

    Just my initial thoughts for you.
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    Hold on a second! Why not use a 22? After all, it's all about shot placement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    Hold on a second! Why not use a 22? After all, it's all about shot placement.
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    I have popped many hogs between the eyes with a .22 at the range of about 6 inches. That was during some of the massive hog killings we had when I was younger.

    It would knock them out, but not always kill them. Most of the time the blood was still pumping when we cut their throats and even after that I remember a couple of times when they jumped out of the scalding troth after we had shot them, cut their throats and thought they had bled out!

    Some would say that was "reflex". If it was then reflex will keep a shot, stuck and scalded hog going for 100 yards, so I'll stick with something bigger than a .22.
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    If you wait until a hog is six inches away before you shoot him how close do you let a grizzly get? I'm going with 12 inches. I know you're a good shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    If you wait until a hog is six inches away before you shoot him how close do you let a grizzly get? I'm going with 12 inches. I know you're a good shot.
    When we were killing hogs on the farm we transported them to the butchering spot in the pickup. Killing them was a matter of sticking the .22 rifle between the boards of the truck rack into the face of the closest hog and pulling the trigger.

    No real shooting skill involved unless uncle Wesley was doing the shooting. Uncle Wess was known to sip on the bottle from time to time and I remember him climbing onto the side of the truck with the rifle once and asking which hog we wanted shot next.

    There was only one hog in the truck!

    Before we could stop him Uncle Wess decided to shoot the one on the left and put a hole in the bottom of the truck bed. Apparently the real pig was on the right.

    Scared that last pig nearly to death and it started running in circles in the back of the truck. Killing him was a real chore. Every time we stuck the rifle barrel through the rack it started spinning in circles.

    As for shooting griz ??? I have never done that and probably never will. but I have know a couple of people that did and their advice was ablut the same. Use a big gun, start shooting when they are way out there and have some extra ammo.

    But I guess that is like shooting the pigs and depends on the size and temperament of the bear.
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    It's still shot placement. I wouldn't bet on a .357 on a shield on a big hog. Even a slight angle will deflect a round on a big hog.

    I bounced a .44 magnum round off of a sow's face from 5'. A bad shot is bad shot in any caliber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batch View Post
    It's still shot placement. I wouldn't bet on a .357 on a shield on a big hog. Even a slight angle will deflect a round on a big hog.

    I bounced a .44 magnum round off of a sow's face from 5'. A bad shot is bad shot in any caliber.
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    Besides......bacon is less cruel. Just buy it at the grocery store.....that way no animals have to die.
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    Naw, just comes in a plastic package......
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    I just read this article off of the Wide Open Spaces email on shotgun vs rifle safety for hunting. Their results are surprising.

    http://www.wideopenspaces.com/believ...n%20Production

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    That is a interesting study.......
    Just make me wonder if anyone else did the same or similar study....
    I'm have a hard time buying the Quote>
    As the study showed, once trajectories were computed for the average 30-06, 150-grain bullet with a 2,910 feet per second muzzle velocity, and the average slug at 385 grams with a 1,900 feet per second muzzle velocity aimed at a level line three feet above the ground, slugs traveled farther in conjunction with a ricochet.

    Surprisingly, that ricochet happened 100 percent of the time.
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    This is my slugger..I just picked some new sabots for her.....

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    CS, we have the same slugger except I don't do scopes on shotty's and I have wood furniture.

    Is yours the rifled barrel or the some bore choked cylinder?
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    Top is the Handi Rifle with the 20 ga Rifled Bull Barrel and scope mounted......preferred slug gun these days.
    Bottom is the NEF 12 ga. Topper "Buck" 162...came with the peep site, shorter barrel and cyl bore (open) choke.

    Both have done and will do the job.
    The Topper is a good open choke grouse gun as well.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by natertot View Post
    CS, we have the same slugger except I don't do scopes on shotty's and I have wood furniture.

    Is yours the rifled barrel or the some bore choked cylinder?
    It is a 19"+ Remington Rifled Slug Barrel, over and under sights.... Remington Super Magnum..Early 90's.

    I ran this barrel hot on my 1972 with wood furniture...
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    This thread is going to turn into shotgun porn, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by COWBOYSURVIVAL View Post
    It is a 19"+ Remington Rifled Slug Barrel, over and under sights.... Remington Super Magnum..Early 90's.

    I ran this barrel hot on my 1972 with wood furniture...
    Ah, very good. Mine is the 21" barrel, smooth cylinder bore with rifle sights. Remington Magnum (3" chamber) Early 2000's. Since mine is primarily used as a defense gun, I plan on adding the 3 shot extension.

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