Of Flint Points And Elephant Hunting ... In Utah

[Seniorman]

Here is a very interesting article from the Western Digs site regarding the finding of many, many flint points in what is today, north central Utah. At that time, the area was a great marshland. Today it is desert.

The points and tools are 12,000/13,000 years old and some of the spear points have been found to have residue DNA from Mammoths on them. The points are intricately knapped and are not of the Clovis style.

http://westerndigs.org/over-1000-anc...n-utah-desert/

Think of the bragging rights you'd have with a set of those mammoth tusks hanging on your cave wall!

S.M.

[hunter63]

Yeah, very cool......
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...have-been-busy

[Enigma]

Here is a very interesting article from the Western Digs site regarding the finding of many, many flint points in what is today, north central Utah. At that time, the area was a great marshland. Today it is desert.

The points and tools are 12,000/13,000 years old and some of the spear points have been found to have residue DNA from Mammoths on them. The points are intricately knapped and are not of the Clovis style.

http://westerndigs.org/over-1000-anc...n-utah-desert/

Think of the bragging rights you'd have with a set of those mammoth tusks hanging on your cave wall!

S.M.

That was a good read, than you for that link.

[Seniorman]

That was a good read, than you for that link.

You're welcome.

Hunter 63, I did not mean to repost a subject already posted. I did not see RandyT's earlier post on the Western Digs site.

S.M.

[hunter63]

No worries.....It is a cool subject.

I attended a presentation at out local museum week or so ago.....dealing with our own local finds....more than 10 years ago...dating human butchering on 2 mammoths and one mastodon found 25 miles from here. at 15000 years ago.

Predating clovis by 500 to 1000 years.
Was disputed at the time....but did give rise to looking deeper at clovis digs....and now there are quite a few site dealing with these older finds.

Some thought the mammoths were wiped out by hunters.......but evidence was found over a 1500 year span.....not a massacre.

Interesting subject....
Quote of the abstract for our presentation> as published.

This event is free and open to the public
Abstract:
Pre-Clovis mammoth and mastodon exploitation sites in Southeast Wisconsin are reviewed and compared with other mammoth butchery sites in North America. The Schaefer (47Kn252), Hebior (47Kn265), Mud Lake (47Kn246) mammoths and the Fenske (47Kn 240) mastodon provide definitive evidence of megafauna exploitation during the pre-Clovis period. These sites span 15,450 - 13,200 years before present, ending just as the classic Clovis culture began. The environment and timing of this pre-Clovis adaptation to a recently deglaciated environment are explored using environmental data and climatic models. The timing of entry of Paleoamericans into the Western Great Lakes is reviewed. Comparison to Clovis mammoth site geomorphic settings is made, and the proposed association of these butchery sites with a local lithic complex is reviewed.
Evidence from these sites makes a case for a pre-Clovis megafauna subsistence strategy. Although amended in recent years by more generalized foraging models, mammoth butchery is still a hallmark of many Clovis sites. Is the Great Lakes Proboscidean exploitation pattern different from others? A proposed relationship between pre-Clovis butchered megafauna sites and the subsequent Clovis culture is put forth.
We will also review that status of pre-Clovis investigations in the Americas based on papers given at the October 2013 Paleoamerican Odyssey Conference in Santa Fe, New Mexico and where our local megafauna fit into the picture.
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The Kenosha County Archaeological Society was established in 1974 for literary, educational, and scientific purposes. It is a non-profit group within Section 501 (c) (3) of the Internal Revenue Code.

More info....
http://www.centerfirstamericans.com/...ry-mammoth.php

[Grizz123]

12,000 years ago Utah was a marsh land? How is that possible since global warming did not begin until the 20th century with all the man made pollution and cow farts? Good thing those cave men killed off all the mastodons and stopping them from passing gas like cattle do today, or we would have gone into global warming much sooner

Joking aside, that is a very cool find, wish I was there.

[kyratshooter]

I love all these "ancient finds" out west that go back 12k-15k years when the Meadowcroft site in PA has been dated to 19k and keeps going older and older as they dig deeper, and is in the Eastern US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meadowcroft_Rockshelter

It is a little known fact that several of the "firsts" in human development started here in the "new world" and returned to Asia and Europe.