Coyote Problem

**COWBOYSURVIVAL** · 01-01-2015, 08:02 AM

Last saturday morning, our 6 month old GSD "Little Bear" was attacked by coyotes. He is still at the vet with a large wound at the base of his tail. X-rays also show a broken tail. Two different vets have confirmed it was a canine attack. He also had a canine puncture wound in his muzzle. (some of you will remember this picture I shared in 2011.) It was taken the exact same time of year.

Our Yellow Lab "Swamper" was attacked about 3 months ago as well. His wounds were mostly superficial but did warrant a trip to the vet for a rabies booster and antibiotics.

About 2012 our Beagle disappeared without a trace.

I am up writing this early this morning because I heard the yotes at about 5am. ("Swamper" was wanting out, he was inside)

I haven't gotten any pics on the game cam this year of a Yote. (I had moved the camera) But, think I have found a track. I am also wondering if my baiting the deer isn't causing the Yotes to come on the property?

I also found a carcass of a fresh kill that appears to be canine. (Will update thread with pics, when it gets light outside)

I need a plan to deal with these critters. Some background on my place. It is a small livestock farm. (Horses, donkey, and a Bull) It's only about 8 acres but borders an irrigation ditch and an 80 acre field of what was millet.

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**randyt** · 01-01-2015, 08:24 AM

If you can keep a eye on your animals and if it's legal, snares would be the way to go.

**COWBOYSURVIVAL** · 01-01-2015, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by randyt

If you can keep a eye on your animals and if it's legal, snares would be the way to go.

Snares may be used in water sets only. The ditch has some water, But since it doesn't stay wet, I am not sure about the legality of it. I have no trapping experience. Footholds under 5" wide may be used, I have 2 of them I got in a trade.

**randyt** · 01-01-2015, 08:43 AM

could you use a bait pile, a accurate high powered rifle? After the first few the coyotes will be skittish. perhaps a local trapper would trap them out for the fur.

**COWBOYSURVIVAL** · 01-01-2015, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by randyt

could you use a bait pile, a accurate high powered rifle? After the first few the coyotes will be skittish. perhaps a local trapper would trap them out for the fur.

Thats what i am thinking a bait pile and a .22 mag. They can also be shot at night with a permit.

**Zack** · 01-01-2015, 09:12 AM

I have no experience at all, yet, but an article in this month's "American Frontiersman" magazine talks about trapping and killing coyotes. They say a leg hold trap buried in the dirt is the best option for trapping them. For more information, look for the "American Frontiersman" with the mountain man wearing a buckskin hood on the cover. I hope this helps.

**ElevenBravo** · 01-01-2015, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Zack

look for the "American Frontiersman" with the mountain man wearing a buckskin hood on the cover.

I think you just described the front cover of every issue!

**Zack** · 01-01-2015, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by ElevenBravo

I think you just described the front cover of every issue!

The guy looks like he's in a coyote hood, maybe it's not buckskin. It's got ears on it. The 2015 issue, I believe. It's this one anyway:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Country-Alma...item2a494230ad

**Old GI** · 01-01-2015, 10:19 AM

Fortunately, our llama, Batman, keeps them away. They give the alpacas and llamas a wide birth when he goes into his defensive mode. He also has driven away the occasional wolf.

**LowKey** · 01-01-2015, 11:51 AM

That's what people are using around here. Llamas as guard dogs. We have a lot of yotes and not enough people to hunt them (not enough space between houses either.) Animal control won't do anything about them unless they exhibit signs of rabies. You'd think people would give up posting signs for "Lost dog" or "Lost cat" as they continually put down laws that protect the coyotes.

**COWBOYSURVIVAL** · 01-01-2015, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by LowKey

That's what people are using around here. Llamas as guard dogs. We have a lot of yotes and not enough people to hunt them (not enough space between houses either.) Animal control won't do anything about them unless they exhibit signs of rabies. You'd think people would give up posting signs for "Lost dog" or "Lost cat" as they continually put down laws that protect the coyotes.

Yep, clearly they are hunting at night. Night hunting requires 48 hr. notice to dnr and is not legal until the last day of February. Looking into a depredation permit now.

**tjwilhelm** · 01-01-2015, 01:53 PM

20 years ago we did not have any coyote here in east-central Illinois. We're very rural and remote, but coyote were unheard of in these parts. Since then, they've taken up residence here and their population has increased markedly. One of my neighbors raises sheep, and the coyote love his place...

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Good luck with your hunt!

**shiftyer1** · 01-01-2015, 08:24 PM

im very surprised your donkey doesn't help

**hunter63** · 01-01-2015, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by shiftyer1

im very surprised your donkey doesn't help

So am I, they generally are protective.

Yotes can be a PITA......and you really have to work at hunting them...they get spooky as soon as you get one.

DD/SIL have a Great Pyrenees to help protect the chickens......Snowball has been a great watch/guard dog so far.....

**COWBOYSURVIVAL** · 01-01-2015, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by shiftyer1

im very surprised your donkey doesn't help

He is a little guy just a medium and so far as I can tell he does help. There has not been any animals attacked in the pasture. My Paint Qtr. Gelding could probably stomp 3 yotes to death. I have seen him kick a dog across the road with me on him.

**COWBOYSURVIVAL** · 01-02-2015, 12:06 AM

**1stimestar** · 01-02-2015, 12:11 AM

Ah poor pups. I'd advise against the traps if you dogs run free. Looks like you have some hunting to do. Good luck.

**COWBOYSURVIVAL** · 01-02-2015, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by 1stimestar

Ah poor pups. I'd advise against the traps if you dogs run free. Looks like you have some hunting to do. Good luck.

Yeah, that is the plan, I think you missed quite an update by just seconds.

**aflineman** · 01-02-2015, 02:52 AM

Bait works for a short time. They are smart. I have had good luck with bait at night, but I had a very nice scope I borrowed. Night vision seemed to alert them less, and they seem to come back more than when we would spotlight them (even using the red spotlight covers).
After that quit working, we could call a few, but they get wise to that also. Normally we could whittle them down enough with these tactics that we would less animal harassment.

**Walter2** · 01-02-2015, 08:45 AM

Maybe one of these to work with your GSD along with hunting.
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/greatpyrenees.htm
We have a problem in Maine and on our small farm.
My wife shot one middle of the day!

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