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    I've been reading through Cody Lundin's books and came across a helpful diagram. Its a Pyramid of your survival needs.
    1.Possitive Attitude
    2.Clothing ,02, sleep, Water
    3.Food, Shelter, Sanitation
    4.Lighting, First Aid
    5.Communications
    6.Cooking
    7.Transportation
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    I guess clothing doesn't include shoes!
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    His is a take off of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. That, of course, doesn't make it any less valuable.

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    The difference is Maslow decreed that you had to fulfill the lowest level of needs before you could move up the pyramid. I don't remember if Cody's position in the book was the same or not. If so, I don't necessarily agree with that. I just don't remember his position.

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    I saw a video where Lundin talked about this. If I remember correctly, he took Maslov's and tweaked it towards wilderness survival. I also think he said that is how one should prioritize if you don't have anything, but don't pass up any easy opportunity of something else either. Been a few years since I saw it so I could be a bit off.
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    This doesn't make sense. Whether you look at it from the order of importance, or as a function of quantity. Lighting is more important than transportation? What is considered transportation anyway? A car? Well that pretty much negates a survival situation in the first place doesn't it? Attitude is the most important, over something like first aid? But I could tell everyone that we're all gonna' die, meanwhile treating my wounds with my FAK. Meanwhile somebody else is telling everyone that things are going to be just peachy while they all bleed out with no means of treating their wounds.

    I think what is more useful would be the rule of 3s or the triangle of survival. Shelter, fire, water. And knowledge, resources, and core temperature control. If you start trying to overcomplicate it then it becomes meaningless.
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    To bad life doesn't fit into neat categories and time table........Kinda like the ad for small dose aspirin..."You heart attack will happen tonight"
    Both pyramids are an attempt to place things in some kind of order.......
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    That list doesn't make sense to me.

    And if its true I'm screwed on step 1 haha.

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    I've always said that your ability to assess threats is the number one skill and priority. Because some survival factors never become an issue, even shelter. Yet others, like being attacked by killer bees or predators, may pose eminent threats. You'll be sitting around boiling water and building a lean to and some giant grizzly comes and mauls you to death.

    Where exactly is "grizzly bear" in the pyramid of survival?
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    But then you guys aren't making a gillion dollars a year on TV shows and books. Sooooo...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    But then you guys aren't making a gillion dollars a year on TV shows and books. Sooooo...........
    True.... But the Kardashians are and you can't get much more stupid than that!
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    Butt..............
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    Quote Originally Posted by natertot View Post
    True.... But the Kardashians are and you can't get much more stupid than that!
    Oh, yes you can! Those who watch them, for example. It's who pays their bills.

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    No Butts about it. They are making mega bucks.

    "1 million 100 thousand six hundred and two."
    "People think we are stupid."
    "(chuckle) Yeah, I know. 1 million 100 thousand six hundred and three."

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    Butt.....did I say that?
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    Indeed, sir, you did.

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    Remember that old story about not having to outrun the bear, you just have to outrun the slowest guy in the group that the bear is chasing?

    You don't have to be a genius to make a million dollars, you just have to be smarter than the people you are separating from their money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyratshooter View Post
    Remember that old story about not having to outrun the bear, you just have to outrun the slowest guy in the group that the bear is chasing?

    You don't have to be a genius to make a million dollars, you just have to be smarter than the people you are separating from their money.
    O....kay....And the relevance of that to this thread is what exactly?
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    This should be good (chuckle). Got my popcorn. Let the show begin!

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    Lawn chair....brewski's........oh wait still a little early...
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    Oh you guys (or youse guys if you prefer)!

    My money is on Krat thought he was posting in the paracord bracelet thread.


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