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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenix View Post
    The show has potential but I don't think it got off to a very good start. The beginning got me. Worldwide power outage.... it doesn't add up yet.
    Can we say "Coronal Mass Ejection"?


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronal_mass_ejection

    http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/CMEs.shtml

    The thing is that it would not be a irreversable event. When it was over electrons would continue to flow and technology would recover. It is also forcastable and predictable. However, it could stop the earth in its tracks for a brief period.

    The trigger event exists, the aftermat is fiction.

    Anyone read Lucifer's Hammer? We can add that one into the story line source.
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    KYRATSHOOTER - "Anyone read Lucifer's Hammer?"
    Yep, read it many years ago and still have my copy of it. I thought it was very well done. Coincidentally, the description of the "Sierra mountain retreat" where the good guys end up, was almost identical to the area in the southern Sierra where my wife and I owned a vacation cabin.

    Jerry Pournelle, co-writer of the novel, at that time lived a few blocks from me in Studio City, Calif. Talked to him a couple of times on the phone but never met him.

    For an "Apocalypse Now" novel, "Lucifer's Hammer" is one of the very best, in my opinion.

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    Lucifer's Hammer is a terrific book.
    What stuck in my mind is hiding all those books deep in doodoo in the outhouse. Not a bad cache place.

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    And who turned out to be the most valuable member of the community?

    The nerd chemist!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyratshooter View Post
    And who turned out to be the most valuable member of the community?

    The nerd chemist!
    Brains over brawn? Why, I never!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BENESSE View Post
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    The nerd chemist that hid his books in the septic tank......
    Yeah, this book started me on this path a long time ago............
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    If a book was going to kick start an effort that one was as good as any you could have found.

    I will never forget the discussion near the end of the work and the famous line;

    "I would walk a mile for a Winston but I would kill for a Camel!"
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    Jericho was a really good show. Shame it was cancelled. They made seasons 3 and 4 of it into a comic book series and there is rumor for feature length film.

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    [QUOTE=kyratshooter;362558]Can we say "Coronal Mass Ejection"?

    That I do understand. Being a ham radio op. I also know that not all electrical systems will be wiped out, basic electrical items, without any type of micro chip and processors will have livability. And mostly items not plugged into the "grid" during the event.

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    Major continuity FAIL in episode 3 when the guy gives himself up in exchange for the release of his friends, the windows and door of the building they let him out of are completely intact. Didn't the bad guys launch a gazillion lead balls through that building the night before?

    Also, I want to see how they play out the battery operated devices (which haven't held a charge in 15 years) come on momentarily to reveal music and pictures of the gal's kids... When my cell phone dies, its DEAD until its been on a charger, doesn't matter if I am out in the woods or in the city, it don't work ...


    Although I like where the story is going, nice guy is actually a fabricator of the regime but no longer connected, went in to it with high ideals of helping rebuild civilization but the system fell to greed and power. I can predict some plot lines but I would rather watch this and try to learn from it in cynical ways than watch dancing with the (supposed) stars any day.
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    OK everyone, what is the first thing a combat officer asks when he comes across a unit holed up anywhere at any time?

    "DO YOU HAVE SECURITY OUT?"

    These people, even after being surprised several times and nearly wiped out, with the lead person supposedly an elete combat soldier, NEVER POST SECURITY!!!

    It is like watching Custer escape by the skin of his teeth week after week.
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    thats what makes it entertaining ;-)

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    That's why I can't watch this stuff. I keep yelling at the TV too much.

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    I have not watched it at all, the previews did not impress me, and it just seems hokie to me. I would rather just go tinker in my shop as watch that! Besides the girls always have to watch CSI LA, CSI New York, CSI Miami, and any other cop and dead body show that comes on!

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    Well I will likey keep watching for entertainment value. And to get and idea of what won't really happen. It seems that it is trying to make certain points of how things will be. In the event of total collapse people with severe medical conditions, that can't be treated herbally, and drug addicts, obese, and most in large cities will die of within months. Probably the first winter. Trade markets in a barter system will pop up but if you have nothing of value to offer, and I don't mean gold, silver etc those will be worth little, ( can't eat it) you won't make it alone. They leave a lot to imagine but I don't think many outside of the prepping, bushcraft and homesteading type communities understand the real problems this show has when connected with real life.

    1. all military collapsed? really? I mean all the big shots ran off I believe.
    2. the militia is bad.... ok I can see that greed and power trip thing. I would believe more like small community militias fighting each other over goods, I don't see that many people being like ( ok so your the boss I will go do that, weather its right or wrong, no questions asked) The chain of command is always broken in trouble, people will do what suits them best.
    3. wireless energy? We have to be years from that technology. just to be in the general location for batteries to work..
    4. A total government collapse
    Lets face it somewhere along the way they will find the government facility running on solar and wind power. equipment that was stored under ground and protected by troops with big farms and workers, and there will be the politicians sitting on their fat asses and just as it is now won't care that anyone else is out there.

    I do recommend watching this show. record it and review, not the mistakes of the sets etc but the general working of things as they show them in the background. It is a bit entertaining.
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    I actually laughed out loud when I saw her turn on the iPhone momentarily after 15 years without a charge. My Android doesn't last more than a day and a half from full charge to dead. It does make me think that without actual printed pictures the memories could be much easier to lose. I dont think I have printed a picture in a couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyq View Post
    I actually laughed out loud when I saw her turn on the iPhone momentarily after 15 years without a charge. My Android doesn't last more than a day and a half from full charge to dead. It does make me think that without actual printed pictures the memories could be much easier to lose. I dont think I have printed a picture in a couple years.
    Any prints are done at Walgreens, cheaper than buying ink for the printer.
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    You mean you do not believe energy can be transmitted wirelessly? That was one of the purposes of early lazer research and is the basis of the parinoid fear of EMP.

    In reality wireless energy has been around since early 1900s. Tesla had Colorado Springs charged up and running but had to discontinue the service because people kept toching fire hydrants and getting electrocuted.

    His vision of electrical power use was for it to be a free utility one could capture from the air/ground.

    The energization of the I-phone, mine works as soon as a power scource is accessed.

    As far as the "militia being bad", one of the motivating factors of almost every radical prepper I know is the desire to be a warlord controlling their own area. Might sound rediculious but that is how the world has run for the better part of 8,000 years.

    Revolution does have the feudal society pretty well worked out, but a lot of other things are still fuzzy. Such as the lack of firearms and ammunition after only 15 years but there are explosives available any time they need to blow something up.

    The details of the show might drive the anal retentive crazy but I am enjoying the character development and the writers' willingness to kill off major personalities and insert new important people on the fly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyq View Post
    I actually laughed out loud when I saw her turn on the iPhone momentarily after 15 years without a charge. My Android doesn't last more than a day and a half from full charge to dead. It does make me think that without actual printed pictures the memories could be much easier to lose. I dont think I have printed a picture in a couple years.
    I didn't find it odd at all. Direct induction and other "wireless" power supplies are used all the time.
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