Originally Posted by
kyratshooter
If your Bic gets wet it will still spark, just like your ferro rod. Because that is what ignites the gas. A small ferro rod rubbing a steel wheel. You can use the empty bic lighter just like a conventional ferro rod.
If you keep the lighter in an inside pocket next to your first layer it will stay warm enough that the butane will flow even in very cold temps. You might even go the extra mile and keep it in a zip lock sandwich bag and prevent it becomming wet.
Zip Lock is a brand name and normally capitalized as you showed with the use of "Bic"
It will be a while before you have to worry about running low on fuel though. The Average Bic lighter gives more than 3,000 lights according to the factory. That will give you one fire each day for 8 years and a few weeks.
You see, we have answered all these questions to the point that we have called the factory for direct info, this ain't our first rodeo.
Did you check on the school programs yet? I see our institution has a volunteer SAR unit that works with the local SAR teams and does real life work, not just training and talking. In your location I am sure they get plenty of educational opprotunities and training in exactly what you are looking for here.
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I see they have a competition rock climbing club and a community outreach rock climbing outfit. You bvolunteer for those activities and they will teach you how to teach in real life.
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If you are looking for a date there were some very attractive and healthy looking specimins in the school photos and they already seemed to know the skills you seek.
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You seem to be a ball of contridictions. You know about the classes, but seem surprised that, in an area where fire bans are common, they use stoves. Seems they have found ways to "survive" in the wilderness, in all seasons, without burning up half the forest. That might be something you would want to learn!
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There is more to "survival" than fire! All those skills they teach in the class are transferable. "Survival skills are in addition to the "normal" outdoor activities of today and as I have stated in the past, most of them are viewed as "campsite tricks" to entertain and impress. Get comfortable with the normal before you tackle the abnormal. If you prepared as you should have, and keep the EDC equipment you should, you will never be forced to use these "survival skills". Why would one welcome and embrace the occurance of a disaster? Plan and prepare for the normal to aviod tha abnormal.
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The internet is filled with "survival experts", making U-tube videos in their back yards, that have not been to the woods in years. You are passing up the opprotunity to be in the woods this very weekend, learning from an experienced, proficient and accomplished group, and you are sitting here on a keyboard arguing over points of advice that answer the questions you have asked. Every reply seems an excuse for why you can not do what experienced people are advising you too do.
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I guarentee the SAR team will teach you some "survival" skills, since part of their mission is listed as educating the public to safty and survival methods. With that as their mission they will demand that you learn the skills and also have a level of teaching competace. Several of the members here are part of SAR units and they contribute to our skill level in many ways.
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Teaching is not something one learns on the internet. It is a process one develops and requires planning and skills of presentation. You learn it through book work and practical experience. Even then some never become "good" at the effort. No one here can give you a pill that makes you a teacher. I know what I speak on that issue also, I walked into my first classroom, as a teacher, in 1974 and walked out of my last one just this year.
Please remember that the first person pronoun (I) is capitalized as is the first letter starting the first word in each sentence. One uases the little shift key on the bottom row to do that.
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