As a Geographer, I taught Natural Hazards and Hazard Mitigation for many years. It was like teaching to the blind and deaf! Students (and people in general) do not want to think long term or critically about where they live and believe that "some one ie: the Government", will take care of them if a disaster strikes. Taking the New Madrid Earth Quakes of 1811/1812 as an example, most people refuse to believe that such an event could happen again, inspite of media specials and government reports. We have a name for people like that, we call them "Victims!" I am sorry to say this but after years of trying to get people to take responsibility for their exposure to disasters or potential disasters, I now have little sympathy for most people when a disaster occurs.
OP - It's really like driving without a seatbelt or standing on the top step of a lander. It doesn't take a whole lot of marbles rolling around to figure out the possible consequence does it? I did that for our company for a few years and you can actually point out hazards, explain the consequence, explain how to mitigate it, come back in a year and find the same hazard untouched. It's really mind boggling. This is an honest to goodness true story. I had to audit one installation and the results affected the bonus of the manager so they did try to make certain everything was in order. I had told them I was coming and gave them the date. They did pretty good on the audit until I went into one department. He had a doozey of a failure. I told it was an easy fix. I wasn't going to write it up but I would come back the next day and re-audit it, which I did. He hadn't done a thing to it. I wrote him up for being stupid and his manager missed his bonus. He was not a happy camper. I...come back....tomorrow. Next day....redo...audit...you fix....savvy?
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The name is Razor, fellah. R.A.Z.E.R....Razor....wait, did I spell that right? (r.a.z......)
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When North America splits apart from Hudson bay to the Gulf of Mexico,..... I'll be in an inlet, on the Mississippi ocean...... if I don't slide off the hill.......
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First 50 years...worried about the small stuff...second 50 years....Not so much
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Yep. Many years ago I came up with what I call them, "Bliss Ninnies."OLD PROFESSOR - " Taking the New Madrid Earth Quakes of 1811/1812 as an example, most people refuse to believe that such an event could happen again, inspite of media specials and government reports. We have a name for people like that, we call them "Victims!"
S.M.
Bliss Ninnies? I had a whole other picture conjured up there for a minute. A couple of them actually.
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Geezer Squad....Charter Member #1
Evoking the 50 year old rule...
First 50 years...worried about the small stuff...second 50 years....Not so much
Member Wahoo Killer knives club....#27
Bliss Ninny is my disguise and I do it well!
I waited in the mountains for my beachfront property for years. I'm rather impatient so I live 3 miles from the Pacific Ocean at 200 feet elevation, the evacuation destination for north of the river. I feel tremors every day. I'm near a subduction zone that has a Big One every 200 years, and of course we expect THE Big One anytime. I should have a nice saltwater inlet off my backyard with the next 6 or better.
I don't know how the rest of you can live with tornado threats. That would scare the heck outta me!
THE Big One will level the metro area, cause the shorelines to turn to pudding and crack our landing strips. Massive slides will take out roads and bridges (like they do every winter), the tsunami will mess up our small port. The Cavalry will not be coming to the rescue. Metro will be sucking up all available resources, we will be on our own. We're actually pretty cool with that. We're not called Preppers Paradise for nuthin.
The big difference between tornado and earth quake preparedness is that you can build a tornado shelter at a very modest cost, compared to building an earth quake proof structure. And I have seen plans that claim to be tornado proof houses (dome shaped). Also tornados do not generally cause geological alterations of the enviroment. If I had my druthers, I would druther deal with tornadoes than earth quakes! of course major tornadoes are much more frequent than major earthquakes!
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You'll note in my list of earthquake preps is don't live where the ground will turn to pudding. It's important. Build your house high and dry on rock and you won't sink. Tilt a bit maybe, but not sink.
Another important earthquake prep is a flexible well pipe.
Really, you get used to waking up from dreams of rough seas and your bed bouncing across the room.
I'm thinking he meant "earth move"......you know when.....oh never mind.
Carry on.
Geezer Squad....Charter Member #1
Evoking the 50 year old rule...
First 50 years...worried about the small stuff...second 50 years....Not so much
Member Wahoo Killer knives club....#27
I grew up in "Tornado Alley," north central Arkansas. For 36 years I lived in severe "Earthquake country," Los Angeles, Calif.
If I have to live through a catastrophe of either the tornado or earthquake persuasions, having experienced both, I will take the earthquake.
Where I grew up, part of the town was blown away in one tornado. In another tornado, a nearby town was literally "disappeared" by the spinning winds.
There was no liquifaction where I lived in Los Angeles during the Sylmar, Whittier, or Northridge 'quakes. Those three 'quakes were on the order of 7.0 R. I assure you, boys and girls, a 'quake of that magnitude will definitely gain your attention.
As mentioned above, a tornado can quite literally blow away not only your home, but all your possessions, leaving you only with a debris covered piece of land.
In a major 'quake, unless your home burns, you'll still be able to salvage most of your stuff.
As for beds spinning around, maybe not, but they'll surely move, big time! During the Sylmar 'quake, 1971, in the middle of the night when it struck, I was actually tossed out of my bed onto the floor the bed was jerking laterally so violently.
During the 1994 Northridge 'quake, which occured about 4:30 AM, the bed was actually shaking violenty right and left laterally, and at the same time, bouncing up and down several inches off the floor. The only reason my wife and I were not thrown off the bed onto the floor was because we had a stout brass headboard onto which we held firmly. Later, I discovered that the headboard and footboard brass tubes where shattered by the violent vertical and lateral simultaineous movements.
Although our home and some possessions sustained damage, we still had our stuff with which to "survive" and retain some degree of "comfort."
Nope, when push comes to shove, I'll opt for the earthquake over the tornado. (I hope I never experience either again.)
Just my thoughts on the subject.
S.M.
Last edited by Seniorman; 08-15-2012 at 01:30 PM. Reason: Correct typo.
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