Rescue Searchers Argue that Lost Hikers Should Pay Rescue Costs

[natertot]

I agree with Rick. Too much gubment and too slipery of a slope. I also believe people won't call if needed to avoid payment and die instead.

[kyratshooter]

I also believe people won't call if needed to avoid payment and die instead.

I supose it depends on how badly you want to die.

They make meds for that.

[gitaway]

Just out of curiosity, I am going to call local "adventure" stores here, and ymca and just see if any survival courses are offered. Probably not. g.

[BENESSE]

I agree with Rick. Too much gubment and too slipery of a slope. I also believe people won't call if needed to avoid payment and die instead.

Just for $hitz & giggles, let's go down that slippery slope.
The worst that can happen is, ill prepared tightwads end up paying anyway... with their lives.
What can possibly be wrong with that?

[Geek]

Transfer the funds out of the TSA budget. :-)

[Rick]

What happens when you....yes, YOU....hit a ______ (fill in the blank) going down the ski slope and you need to be airlifted out? What happens when Crash, the most prepared human being on the planet, has a weasel trip him on the trail and he snaps an ankle (his ankles are too strong so this is hypothetical)? It's not just ill prepared tightwads there missy. It's us ins and youse ins.

[Geek]

I don't mind if we use TSA funds to rescue irresponsible jerks. The government hands money to irresponsible jerks every day!

I mean if you had to choose between paying for rescuing a lost hiker who was too stupid to take some twinkies with him and paying a welfare queen not to work, what is your priority?

[BENESSE]

What happens when you....yes, YOU....hit a ______ (fill in the blank) going down the ski slope and you need to be airlifted out? What happens when Crash, the most prepared human being on the planet, has a weasel trip him on the trail and he snaps an ankle (his ankles are too strong so this is hypothetical)? It's not just ill prepared tightwads there missy. It's us ins and youse ins.

A. See post 15

2. If I'm on the ski run where I have no business being because of my skill level, I deserve what I get and should be accountable by covering additional costs to get my a$$ out. Additional, meaning beyond what's usually factored in the cost of lift tickets, rentals, etc.

It was simple when I was growing up. If something bad happened beyond my control, I got sympathy. If I should have known better, I got my ears boxed. If it made sense then, it makes sense now.

[BENESSE]

I don't mind if we use TSA funds to rescue irresponsible jerks. The government hands money to irresponsible jerks every day!

I mean if you had to choose between paying for rescuing a lost hiker who was too stupid to take some twinkies with him and paying a welfare queen not to work, what is your priority?

My priority is to make them work/pay for what they get. Why should I be responsible?

[colorado plainsman]

It is a slippery slope. The ones that drive me nuts are people that go out hiking wearing nothing but a pair of shorts, t-shirt and a water bottle. They take no jacket, compass or lighter. I am not saying saying taking your bug out bag but plan a bit better weather can very greatly out here 80 degree days in the foothills followed by afternoon rain showers and lows in the 40's over night sounds like a nice set up for hyperthermia. But like the old saying goes support SAR get lost.

[Rick]

Who defines all this stuff? Who says whether you are or are not qualified on a given ski run? Who says what equipment meets minimum standards for your level of knowledge and who defines what your level of knowledge is? If someone is on a 2 mile loop trail and gets hurt how would not having a compass or lighter make them liable? Slippery slope indeed.

[BENESSE]

Who defines all this stuff? Who says whether you are or are not qualified on a given ski run? Who says what equipment meets minimum standards for your level of knowledge and who defines what your level of knowledge is? If someone is on a 2 mile loop trail and gets hurt how would not having a compass or lighter make them liable? Slippery slope indeed.

Rick, we're talking gross negligence, not every single accident. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing proposition for something to be done to "encourage" idiots to be more responsible. For some people who don't have common sense and don't give a flying flick about anyone else, hitting them where it hurts most--their wallet--can be a powerful motivator. Otherwise, it wouldn't be used so much.

[1stimestar]

Which government agency will be responsible for enforcing these collections? And how will they get money from someone who has none to spare? Oh yea, garnish wages, tax returns, etc.

[Desert Rat!]

What happens when you....yes, YOU....hit a ______ (fill in the blank) going down the ski slope and you need to be airlifted out? What happens when Crash, the most prepared human being on the planet, has a weasel trip him on the trail and he snaps an ankle (his ankles are too strong so this is hypothetical)? It's not just ill prepared tightwads there missy. It's us ins and youse ins.

I know Chuck Norris fashioned his ankles after Crashes !

[Rick]

Woman....I'd come over there and whoop up on ya if you didn't have all those knives.

Where's the line on gross negligence? You have to define it. It's probably a lot like pornography. I can't define it but I know it when I see it?

Chuck Norris is nothing.....Do you know how long Crash had to stay underwater? Months! And he held his breath!!

[old2531]

ive heard of some citys charging for false alarm calls to your house their reasoning is while they are comming to a bad call for u someone else could be dieing