9mm: Because I've seen a .45 bounce off of a windshield MORE THAN ONCE.
9mm: Because even 1911 guys don't want to get shot with one of my "little" bullets.
9mm: Because low round count single stack pistols suck in a gun fight!
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I have a Stage Coach type double 12 guage, simple quick and efficient. No "black guns " for me. After 25 plus years finally dawned on me they are not my cup of tea. I follow the KISS principle Keep It Simple Stupid (referring to me of course )
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.45 ACP Because shooting twice is silly... The avatar says it all,.45 because there isn't a.46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs6a...eature=related
I routinely shoot SASS and Western 3-Gun matches, so I have a special appreciation of that about which you speak. As Jeff Cooper often said, "The gunfight is not won by the first shot, but by the first hit."
Generally speaking, I'd rather be accurate than fast. (The only exception would occur if I should be up against a fast AND accurate shooter...)
Recognizing, of course, that the stereotypical "Gunsmoke" shootout is just not in reality's realm...
Last edited by Daniel Nighteyes; 05-03-2012 at 03:14 PM.
The thought occurred to me, that when a question is asked about Black rifles for this....and for that,...for house cleaning....zombies etc......Someone wants one, and is looking to justify a reason.....or that the way it seems.
Well, Bunky, I say, just go for it, no need to to have a reason, a "I just want one" is totally within the parameter's of "just because"....Life's to short to dance with ugly women...unless you want to.
Not that was the reason for the OP ...just saying...in general.
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I agree with Daniel, Having been "around the horn", a tour in Vietnam and early Iraq and a few in between, thankfully there are VERY FEW people that are fast AND accurate shooters when their "hinny" is on the line and scared sh**less. So the KISS principle has served me very well. As you know, gadgets are not the answer, practice with what you have, that is THE answer
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.45 ACP Because shooting twice is silly... The avatar says it all,.45 because there isn't a.46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs6a...eature=related
I think the same thing each time I see someone recommending training that incorperates advancing on the target in the open, drills in the open, using interior walls for cover......
They never stress laying on the ground shooting at feet under a car or shooting from a seated position with a steering wheel inb your way.
And "clearing the house", I always get a chuckle out of reference to clearing ones house or intruders.
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Don't forget shooting over your shoulder while running the other way. I practice that one a lot.
We have a good setup for the home and none of it involves clearing anything. I'll stay in my bedroom while they cart the stuff out the door. It's not that important. There is a .45 and .38 backing it up along with the 911 call either landline or cellular, whichever is required. But I am NOT creeping through the house looking for anything. That's what they pay LEO for.
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The only gunfight I ever won was against a young Vietnamese man who had his Lebel rifle slung over his shoulder. My rifle was in my hands. I especially remember his eyes as they went from surprise to determination to realization to resignation, and then to vacancy. Every now and then he still visits me in my sleep. I believe he will be with me to the end of my days.
Agreed.
Last edited by Daniel Nighteyes; 05-03-2012 at 06:56 PM.
There is a difference between cover and concealment, and you use which ever you have to the best advantage you can get. I don't know who "they" are, but I have found training from vehicles and around vehicles, under obstacles, around barricades and doors, laying on back and firing over your head so you see upside down, and countless other positions. I have also received "clearing" training in both single and team coordinations. The info and training is out there, just gotta dig for it and not go to local Jim Bobs back yard shootin gallery.
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Situation depends. For instance, it would be your duty and legally justified action to advance till you are closer to the intruder than any of your loved ones.
You can use the penetration for stick built homes to your advantage. The .223 loses energy rapidly and everything it hits, of course, reduces it further.
As in all shooting, try to hit what you aim at.
To the op, 2 mags should be sufficient, one can have a malfunction. Murphy never visits when everything is hunky-dory.
I have a flashlight on mine which is great. If you see a threat you are already pointing a rifle at it.
I am trained on an AR. I know the weapon backwards and forwards. It's as close a friend as any of you FOGs double barrels and lever actions.
Last edited by Winter; 05-04-2012 at 12:59 AM.
I had a compass, but without a map, it's just a cool toy to show you where oceans and ice are.
Another consideration is kid safety. You have to do something to keep kids and grand kids safe when they are at the house. It's a lot easier to move handguns for me than long guns. Yeah, yeah, I know, ya'll have your kids and grand kids trained. Baloney. Accidents happen and kids are kids. What a horrible regret that would be to live with.
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X2 for that. Guy with a bunch of tricked out "safe queens" don't worry me none. Now a Guy with an old sidearm, bluing worn thru, with permanent heat/powder discoloring at the muzzle. That there is the one ya got to keep an eye on.
Beware the dude that only own's 1 gun. Probaly knows how to shoot that thing pretty good.
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Oh by the way the last 911 call that was made in my neighborhood took them 26 minutes to responde so I wouldn't count on that pill to save your can and I live in the city,go figure.I would rather rely on my weapons than the we'll show up when it's over crowd.
Last edited by wholsomback; 05-04-2012 at 02:47 PM.
I can't say that we have that problem. We have a lot of LEO and they have a lot of visibility. They are usually on site in 2-3 minutes in force. I have no problem with any of our first responders. Medics and Fire are just down the street. Well, okay, when they hit that dang train horn at 2 a.m. when they zip past the house but other than that.....
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If yu don't have young one around much....this can be a big deal.....heads up for sure
PS: natertot check this out.....http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...hlight=buckeye
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I do have little one's around all the time. I have a four year old daughter and a son that will be two a little later this summer. My duty pistol is the most prevalent one around and I make an effort to show it to them and explain it to them at their level. My daughter has even held it several times after I cleared it and she calls the muzzle the "owwie end". A little over a year ago, she had a pet snail die and I explained to her that if she points the "owwie end" at something, it could be like her snail. I can tell by her facial expressions that she understands it, but I wouldn't leave it in her reach because she doesn't understand how to operate it.
Thanks for the link......
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