Survival Question

[hunter63]

I consider the pockets my first step in the system.
SAK
BIC or similar
Folding clip knife
SAK money clip
Wallet....has card sized magnifier (possible fire, substitute for glasses, bandaids, spare key, safety pin, credit cards cash, ID, medical card and "stuff".

Belt
Small Multi tool, w/flashlight, ferro rod/striker and mini BIC, in SAK leather pouch.
cell phone
Key holder, keys with a few of the Rick style doodads, P38, 3ft tape, SAK key fob.

And Mini mag, at times.
That just my pockets and belt.....

THEN we start getting into the jackets/hooded sweat shirts, coats.
All have,
Knife,
BIC
Gloves
tissue
Carmex
Some have pin on compasses
All this is about 6 pounds, and I know this because the nurse at the Dr office weighed me, and I was 6 pounds more than the hospital weight just wearing the hospital toga.

She says You have gained weight........I said no I just have my coat and clothes on......

Now we can start on bags....and PSK's....LOL

[pete lynch]

You said doodad and toga in the same post.
That could get you in trouble around here.
Yikes! I just did it too.
TOGA!

[Sourdough]

Pockets, pockets pockets....did everyone forget about pockets?????
Yeah, easy to leave your bag at home....... but pockets?

For me I don't like having stuff in my pockets.

[hunter63]

Toga, Toga, Toga..........LOL

[Thaddius Bickerton]

Would you look at that?! That bear grabbed Thad's backpack! There it goes. Oops. There goes Thad.......LET GO OF THE CORD!!!!!!

]
Heck no, I got him on the line, now. Can ya say munchies. Now where is that big knife. If it worked for D Boone then it's gonna work fer me.

I also get me a nice bear skin to help me out n all that lovely bear grease, an a stomach for a bag n all those other organs.

Dang, I been hunting bear all wrong, I just need a ranger cord n me pack. :-)

***

Few hours later sitting on a bar skin rug, with a nice haunch of bear roast on a spit sizzling and the pack back out as bait with the cord tied in place in case I get another bite.

Rotfl

[intothenew]

Certainly more than ten items, a varmint list in progress.

[Wingman]

All great stuff thanks to all that posted.

[Geek]

I always carry a small AM/FM radio. In the disasters I have been in, finding out what is going on (necessary for good decisions) has been one of the major challenges.

[Daniel Nighteyes]

I actually have two kits. The first is my SOS Kit ("Short-term Outdoor Survival") that goes into my day pack every time I/we are in the outdoors. First aid kit (in its own nylon pouch) plus a cutting edge, firemaking stuff, string/cord, space blanket and a couple of lawn & leaf bags. Water and snacks are in the bag anyhoo, as are windbreakers and lightweight microfleece hoodies.

UPDATE: Went back and double-checked. Add compass, small flashlight, and water purification tabs to the SOS kit.

-- Nighteyes

FOLLOW-UP: Well, THAT'll learn me not to attempt editing anything before my second cup of caffeine. Somehow managed to delete the description of my second kit. In summary its a 5-day earthquake emergency kit that I keep in the back of my Explorer, along with 24 one-liter bottles of water and an empty external frame backpack (in case I have to abandon the Explorer.)

[postman]

I always carry a swiss army knife, a bic lighter wrapped with about 20 feet of artificial sinew, and a small L.E.D flashlight. These items are in my pocket every day. On my keychain I have a small multi tool, another small swiss army knife, and a small ferro rod. I also have a small compss thats on my watchband.

[GiLLiGaNN]

Never leave home without spam!

My backpack weighs around 35-40 pounds not including the sleeping bag, but has a lot more than 10 things in it. So what are the most important 10 things would have been a better question. My backpack is pretty much the standard 72 hour setup.

1. 10x12 nylon reinforced cammo tarp.
2. Small stainless steel hatchet
3. Small 4" teflon frying pan
4. Fire steel
5. Small wetstone for sharpening
6. Gerber folding knife
7. 100 ft of paracord
8. First aid kit ( homemade in a ziplock baggy )
9. Water purifier, purifier tablets, and a small vial of bleach.
10. Small roll of toilet paper
11. Wet wipes
12. Small container of waterless soap
13. 1 poud of beef jerky
14. Granola bars
15. Compass
16. Signalling mirror
17. 2 ea Small bic lighters
18. Container of char cloth and cotton balls
19. 2, 9 hr candels
20. LED headband flashlight, and standard LED flashlight
21. Ruger single six .22 revovler with 100 rounds of ammo.
22. 6 aluminum tent steaks
23. Folding saw
24. Dehydrated noodle soup in mylar bags, 4 bags, 2 bags of tuna in mylar.
25. Instant coffee
26. Large stainless steel cup
27. Tweezers
28. Small pair of channelock pliers
29. Leatherman multi tool
30. Can of Spam
31. 4 bags of cashews
32. Small packets of salt, pepper, and sugar.
33. 4 packettes of hot chocolate
34. 4 packettes of apple cinnamon oatmeal
35. 15 feet of snare wire
36. Small flask of Vodka
37. Doo rag
38. Ice armour gloves
39. Cheap safety sun glasses ( spare )
40. Small jar of vaseline ( for raw parts )
41. Rain poncho
42. Compact 40 channel portable CB radio, in side pocket
43. Army type canteen with canteen pot in canvas belt holder
44. Sleeping bag in dry bag tied to the backpack
45. Folding fork, spoon, can opener thingamajig
46. Fluorescent nylon string
47. Spare socks and underware ( non hong type )
48. Small tube of insect repellant
49. 1 pack of small cigars
50. I plug of Days Work chewing tobacco in sealed mylar bag.
51. Fishing kit

This is probably too much stuff but I can carry it all day so I guess I haven't overloaded my bag!!

I also have a large camo duffel bag that has spare clothes, more food, bottled water, full Frog Tog rainsuit, and a few more items but I only take that for camping trips and would not be used for a survival situation or bug out due to weight. My carry knife is a fixed blade Buck Woodsman 4" blade with belt sheath.

[Wingman]

Lots of great info shared here thanks to all for posting.

[hunter63]

I think we all try to balance "perceived need" to what we would carry on a daily basis.

It's one thing to go on a hunting trip, hike, camping, or even in your vehicle, and carry a bag of gear and think nothing of it......But it quite something again to walk around the block, go the church, school, shopping,..... with a med Alice pack and a 5" belt knife.

So now the question is "What can I carry ?, and is small enough, that you will wear it, doesn't look like you are zombie hunting"....as a famous man once said, "If you don't have it, you can't use it".

This leads to build up a kit, till you can't or don't carry it, then starting the process over again.......Note, the last kit is left intact, "just in case", and you can start over in the quest for "cooler gear".....(It's a sickness)

Did a thread on my little belt pouch, a while back, that I do carry daily, unless I going to a wedding or some such, and is just based on an old leather SAK pouch.
Putting on my Sunday jeans on today, thought I would click a couple of pic's.

I wear this little leather knife pouch (from an earlier SAK) on my belt daily.
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Small multi tool, (el-cheapo), but does come in handy...has LED flashlight on one side.....so I can leave the mini mag behind most days.
Mini BIC
Mini ferro rod, and striker.
Wad of cotton balls stuffed into bottom....keeps stuff from sliding down, and works as tinder.
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The quest continues........It is kinda fun with all the plotting and planning......

[Daniel Nighteyes]

I don't mean to be the proverbial PITA, but what-the-heck is a "SAK"? I should know, but I just don't...

[hunter63]

Swiss Army Knife.........

[Daniel Nighteyes]

Swiss Army Knife.........

Whew! Thank you, hunter63!

-- Nighteyes

[tjwilhelm]

I work in the Department of Redundancy Department. Every year, at Christmas and Birthday times, I tell my wife and kids, "A man can't have too many knives or flashlights."

I carry multiples of: fire-starting means; knives; and, light sources. Why? They're VERY useful...they can get lost...they can get broken...they can be small, attractive barter items...they can be shared as merciful gifts to someone in need.

This post is not about a full-blown B.O.B. Rather, it's just one example (my humble example) of what an E.D.C "Survival" kit can/might look like. It's broken into three parts: the pant pockets kit; the belt kit; and, the cargo pocket (or jacket/vest pocket) kit.

The main idea here is to carry items that will add efficiency to a survival effort, relying on experience/knowledge/skills to: find or create shelter; to harvest kindling and fuel wood; to scavange or fabricate a container in which to carry and boil water; to scavange, forage, or hunt/fish for food.

Pant Pockets Kit:

In the left pant pocket I have a CRKT spring-assisted TRIUMPH; and, folding money clipped with a CRKT K.I.S.S. knife.

In the right pant pocket I have a Victorinox Trekker and my key ring. On the key ring (aside from keys) are the following:

• Victorinox Officer Suisse
• Firesteel.com firesteel tube
• Peanut lighter
• P-38 can opener
• INOVA LED flashlight

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Pant Pocket Kit 01 by tjwilhelm148149, on Flickr

Belt Kit:

On my belt I carry: my 37-year old Buck 110 Folding Hunter; a Fenix LD20 LED flashlight (205 lumens powered by two AA cells!); and, a Leatherman Wave in the standard cordova sheath. Also in the Wave sheath are:

• a stick of soft magnesium, on the left, to be scraped for tinder
• a Firesteel.com firesteel rod, on the right, for fire ignition
• a carbide scraper, stored in the front pocket of the sheath
• a tight-twisted jute lanyard that can be fluffed for tinder

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Belt Kit 01 by tjwilhelm148149, on Flickr

Cargo Pocket Kit:

This kit is contained in a "baby soda bottle" -- the injection-molded blank from which a 2-liter soda bottle is blow-molded. It's kind of like a large, unbreakable test tube, with a standard screw on cap. I wrapped the outside of the tube with multiple layers of: 550-paracord (cordage); jute twine (cordage and tinder); and Gorilla-brand duct tape (for repairing anything and everything, of course!). Wrapped in with the paracord is an INOVA LED flashlight. There are also a half-dozen rubber bands that can be used for rubber bandy things.

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Cargo Pocket Kit 01 by tjwilhelm148149, on Flickr

When the tube is held vertically in the hand, and the cap is removed, the first thing on top is a liquid-filled button compass.

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Cargo Pocket Kit 02 by tjwilhelm148149, on Flickr

Inside the tube, under the compass, are:

• a small ziplock bag containing vaseline soaked cotton balls
• a standard sewing bobbin wound with 10# spider wire for snares or fishing line
• a Firesteel.com ferrocerium rod
• a P-38 can opener
• a small, folding razor blade
• a small, folding saw blade
• two fish hooks and two "fly" hooks

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Cargo Pocket Kit 03 by tjwilhelm148149, on Flickr

...and that's all I have to say about that...

[Rick]

Here you go, Daniel (and anyone else that can use it)... Ain't we the cat's meow?

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?8037-Abbreviations-and-Terms

[crashdive123]

Hey TJ - is that a survival kit in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?Guests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.

[tjwilhelm]

Hey TJ - is that a survival kit in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?Guests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.

I keep it in my cargo pocket, so it gives the illusion of being 14" long!