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    Liquor;
    The Universal currency. It's the duct tape of Bartering! Drink it, use it as an antiseptic.
    Soak it in bandages and use it as a torch. Run your car off it!

    Somebody said something about a can opener. Get a Swiss Army Knife, put it on your key chain so you always have it on you!
    You can abrase a can on a piece of cement until the lid is worn down. Just keep making circles with it, and the friction will wear the lid off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwp View Post
    Fortunately I live in a small town and most folks know each other. That being said I will barter anything I have that I feel that I have more than my family will use. I will however be careful in who I tade ammo or drink with and then only in small amounts. I try to have extra meds, food and a few extra garden tools for those that I feel will put into good use.
    Who would have thought we would be here this quick
    Just be careful, never know who you can trust in this situation, even if you've known them all your life. I personally have a small group of people that I have compiled with different skills that I can work with when SHTF, yet I still have two other backup plans just in case.
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    Other than ammo, I think food, water, gasoline, and diesel will be on the top of the barter list. Their are lots of other items good for bartering, but that is the top 4 things people truly need to survive.

    Here is a list of in my opinion, will be the top 100 things to dissapear first. No list is 100 percent accurate because different people need different things, but it's a pretty good list!

    1. Generators
    2. Water Filters/Purifiers
    3. Portable Toilets
    4. Seasoned Firewood.
    5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps
    6. Coleman Fuel and propane tanks
    7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots, weapons in general!
    8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
    9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
    10. Rice - Beans - Wheat-corn meal
    11. Vegetable Oil
    12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
    13. Water Containers
    14. Mini Heater head (Propane)
    15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
    16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
    17. Survival Guide Book.
    18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc.
    19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
    20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
    21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
    22. Vitamins
    23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder
    24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
    25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
    26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
    27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
    28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
    29. Garbage Bags
    30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
    31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed
    32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
    33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
    34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
    35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
    36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
    37. First aid kits
    38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
    39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
    40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
    41. Flour, yeast & salt
    42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
    43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
    44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
    45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
    46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
    47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
    48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
    49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
    50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
    51. Fishing supplies/tools
    52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
    53. Duct Tape
    54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
    55. Candles
    56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
    57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
    58. Garden tools & supplies
    59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
    60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
    61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
    62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
    63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
    64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
    65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
    66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
    67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
    68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
    69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
    70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
    71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
    72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
    73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
    74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
    75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
    76. Reading glasses
    77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch
    78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
    79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
    80. Survival handbooks and wild edible giudes
    81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
    82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
    83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
    84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts
    85. Lumber (all types)
    86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
    87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
    88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
    89. Lantern Hangers
    90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
    91. Teas
    92. Coffee
    93. Cigarettes
    94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
    95. Paraffin wax
    96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, motor oils and lubricants
    97. Chewing gum/candies
    98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
    99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
    100. Goats/chickens
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    Wow looks like y'all think alike....?
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    ...and opinions that are copied and pasted should really give credit to the original sources to avoid plagiarism charges. http://www.thepowerhour.com/news/ite...ppearfirst.htm
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    This list has been quoted in just about any forum that has annthing to do with survivial as i hasve ssen it many times before, not sure who the orginal author is/was, but a search of '100 things to disappear first" will turn up a whole bunch of sites....
    Example:

    http://www.shtfplan.com/emergency-pr...first_06032010
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    Yeah - plagiarism probably isn't a real concern I suppose. I wonder how many individuals that have posted this in the myriad of survival sites have tried to pass it off as "their" list rather than a comprehensive list that they have seen.
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    Seems a lot of discussion by people disagreeing with the list as is....But hey nothing wrong having your own list...and draw from as many sources as possible.

    But, yeah, even if you don't know where it came from a little..."Hey, lookie what I found on thus and such...."
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    All I can say is I'm just glad nude beaches are not on the list.

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    Bartering, hmmmmm.

    I'd never barter weapons to unknown entities.

    Food, batteries, canteens, backpacks, you name it.

    I don't have a problem, like Sourdough, but I do love gear.
    I had a compass, but without a map, it's just a cool toy to show you where oceans and ice are.

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    Well as far as the copy and paste thing, hey, were a community of survivalist's and I'm sure that author would love to know that we are viewing his list and you saved me from having to google it, so thanks! Bartering is going to be my last option, as I'm preparing for it so I should be ok for a few years in ALL area's!
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    If all you guys are hoarding the same things for barter, the one that's coming out ahead is the one hoarding other things.
    And I'm not tellin'


    This list makes me LOL. It is a weird amalgam of things that will last for short term or long term, or be useful in the long term, but it's not a list of things that will 'run out first'. And there are curious inclusions of throw-away items. Whenever possible, items for long term should be built to last. Paper plates???
    Here's that same list re-sorted. With snide comments.

    Things that will be useless once hydrocarbon fuels are scarce.
    1. Generators
    6. Coleman Fuel and propane tanks
    12b. Lighter Fluid (uh, you really need this to light your charcoal there city boy?)
    14. Mini Heater head (Propane)
    16. Propane Cylinders
    21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene) just get yourself a good woodburner. learn how to build a bake oven.
    23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder
    28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal) (you'll have plenty of empties)
    95. Paraffin wax
    96. motor oils and lubricants

    Stupid things that have planned obsolescence:
    2. Water Filters/Purifiers
    18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc.
    46. LIGHTSTICKS & torches, (I removed the Dietz lantern. That is useful)
    70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks) - uh, how bout just some grannyware or better, melamine plates cups and bowls. Have you ever worn out a fork or spoon? No toss-away mindsets here.
    81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)- You can use these once. Are you gonna leave this on all year? Go one better and get the silverized bubble wrap greenhouse insulation. It will at least last years. If you want the light, plain bubble wrap works.
    87. Cots & Inflatable mattresses - ? what's wrong with your own bed and mattress? Gonna patch that rubber *****?

    useful items
    3. Portable Toilets - but not the chemical kind. Either composting ($$$) or ones with fresh water flush.
    5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps - but you will have to learn to make wicks and possibly use tallow.
    7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots, weapons in general! - you forgot reloading equipment!
    8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
    13. Water Containers
    15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
    20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry) - you forgot washtubs!
    26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
    25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms) several many pairs if you live in a cold climate
    32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST) - a bigger must is a place to plant them and knowledge of how to grow, preserve and save seed for next year. People who supply garden-in-a-cans are underestimating the amount of seed needed for a food supply, and the size of the plot needed to grow it. Try it now, without the emergency. It ain't easy.
    34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit (not sure what this is but might be useful)
    33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST) - why is this a Must? Any bush or treebranch dries clothes...
    44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
    45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
    46. Flashlights/"No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
    48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels) - but not for potable water. The plastics are not safe for food or water. Better would be the plastic rain catcher barrels with hose spigots. You could rig a shower with one of those. Again most are not safe for holding potable water supplies.
    54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
    57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
    58. Garden tools & supplies
    59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
    62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax) - Lots of jars, get reusable lids and lots of gaskets, wax is a short term consumable
    50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
    51. Fishing supplies/tools
    63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
    64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
    65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
    67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
    72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
    74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
    76. Reading glasses - lots and lots of these.
    79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
    84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts
    85. Lumber (all types)
    86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
    88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
    89. Lantern Hangers
    90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
    96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws (duplicate of above, removed the motor oil and lubricants)
    99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
    100. Goats/chickens

    Perishable supplies- better start sourcing alternatives
    9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
    10. Rice - Beans - Wheat-corn meal
    11. Vegetable Oil
    22. Vitamins
    31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed
    35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
    39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
    41. Flour, yeast & salt
    60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
    61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite) - note only good for about 1 year in storage. Loses strength.
    75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
    77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch
    82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
    83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
    91. Teas
    92. Coffee
    94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,) -Bribes?
    97. Chewing gum/candies

    Non-replenishable consumables - better start thinking of alternatives...
    19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
    24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
    27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty
    29. Garbage Bags
    30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
    36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
    37. First aid kits
    38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates) - screw the expiration dates. Get rechargeable and get a solar charger. Still won't last forever though.
    42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first - yes they will - add a firesteel of some kind.
    43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
    47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)- when you have the time...
    49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
    52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
    53. Duct Tape
    66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
    68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
    69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
    71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
    73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
    93. Cigarettes

    Odds and Ends
    4. Seasoned Firewood. - unless there is a massive human die-off you can expect existing forests and anything burnable to be gone after the first winter. You may be fighting for the wood your house is made of.
    12. Charcoal, - learn to make your own.
    17. Survival Guide Book. - I'd suggest more than one.
    40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) - dog food is a perishable consumable. What will you feed them when you run out?
    55. Candles - learn to make your own
    56. Laundry Detergent (liquid) Learn to make your own soap.
    78. "Survival-in-a-Can" - not sure what this is, but anything inside it should be redundant to what you already have.
    80. Survival handbooks and wild edible giudes - ah, here are more books with plant guides added. Wise move.
    98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing) - WTF?
    Last edited by LowKey; 04-13-2012 at 10:12 PM.

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    You are just soooo cynical. That last time I was in a volcano eruption my atomizer probably saved my life. If I hadn't been able to spritz myself every few seconds I would probably have burst into flames.

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    Yeah, well there is THAT........

    Anyway, lots of wisdom, and thought there, Low Key........In some of the earlier posting of this list, contained many comments, and sometimes that proved to be more helpful than the LIST.

    Now my thinking:
    Lists in general, are a easy way to convince your self that you have actually done something.
    (like buying a book and not reading it, or adding to "Favorites bar" to read later)

    Lists are a good memory or thought jogger.

    Lists are only as good as your needs....although women's feminine products seem to be favorable for wound dressing....(did it seem like the LIST lacked first aid supplies?...... or at least wasn't really highlighted too much?)

    Lists are to be discussed, changed, added to.

    Lists are helpful for older people if you can remember where you put it.........

    Now before you forget where you put this LIST.......print it out and start making your alterations....BUT only after you have actually DONE the items on your list.....
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    40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) - dog food is a perishable consumable. What will you feed them when you run out?
    Looters / Tresspassers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildthang View Post
    Other than ammo, I think food, water, gasoline, and diesel will be on the top of the barter list. Their are lots of other items good for bartering, but that is the top 4 things people truly need to survive.

    Here is a list of in my opinion, will be the top 100 things to dissapear first. No list is 100 percent accurate because different people need different things, but it's a pretty good list!

    1. Generators
    2. Water Filters/Purifiers
    3. Portable Toilets
    4. Seasoned Firewood.
    5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps
    6. Coleman Fuel and propane tanks
    7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots, weapons in general!
    8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
    9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
    10. Rice - Beans - Wheat-corn meal
    11. Vegetable Oil
    12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
    13. Water Containers
    14. Mini Heater head (Propane)
    15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
    16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
    17. Survival Guide Book.
    18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc.
    19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
    20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
    21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
    22. Vitamins
    23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder
    24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
    25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
    26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
    27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
    28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
    29. Garbage Bags
    30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
    31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed
    32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
    33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
    34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
    35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
    36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
    37. First aid kits
    38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
    39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
    40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
    41. Flour, yeast & salt
    42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
    43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
    44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
    45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
    46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
    47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
    48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
    49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
    50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
    51. Fishing supplies/tools
    52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
    53. Duct Tape
    54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
    55. Candles
    56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
    57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
    58. Garden tools & supplies
    59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
    60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
    61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
    62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
    63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
    64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
    65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
    66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
    67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
    68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
    69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
    70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
    71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
    72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
    73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
    74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
    75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
    76. Reading glasses
    77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch
    78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
    79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
    80. Survival handbooks and wild edible giudes
    81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
    82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
    83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
    84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts
    85. Lumber (all types)
    86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
    87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
    88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
    89. Lantern Hangers
    90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
    91. Teas
    92. Coffee
    93. Cigarettes
    94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
    95. Paraffin wax
    96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, motor oils and lubricants
    97. Chewing gum/candies
    98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
    99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
    100. Goats/chickens
    101. Nude Beaches

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