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    Dang. My feet are numb.
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    Did you state that right? The west would be FROM the west or southwest? Wouldn't that push you in the opposite direction of where you want to go? North to Northeast?
    The wind would come from the west or southwest, your traveling in a southerly direction, any way you choose, until you have traveled two hundred miles.
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    Why not try a fire plow? Less assembly and moving parts to balance. I would have to go with water travel. A raft does'nt have to be huge. and If you take a day to make tools you can make an stone ax to make it with. Stop and take stock of what is around you. I would take a day to set snares and make fire. Then I would look at leaving the area.

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    But the wind will blow you toward the west or northwest away from safety. Right? If you're on a raft you're going to be at the mercy of the wind and currents. I don't know. I'm asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf65 View Post
    No winds would be blowing from west to east southeast.
    Water travel seems to be the fastest way out of the march lands. If I'm gonna bet wet I may as well ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    But the wind will blow you toward the west or northwest away from safety. Right? If you're on a raft you're going to be at the mercy of the wind and currents. I don't know. I'm asking.
    If you are going to try to sail on the great lakes, the winds would not be much help unless you could rig a sail boat together and tact with the wind. Paddling close to the shore would work.
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    Well, I wasn't trying to use the wind. I just thought the wind would act against your southerly movements. If you say it will work then okay. I still don't like the idea of cotton being wet in 50F water.
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    How long do you believe it would take to travel 200 miles?
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    Sam: Exactly my point,
    and rick, no see the current is moving south as the rivers flow, using a push pole it can be done, why cross to lake superior when you can go down to the bottom of lake michigaan and hit a river going further south.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Well, I wasn't trying to use the wind. I just thought the wind would act against your southerly movements. If you say it will work then okay. I still don't like the idea of cotton being wet in 50F water.
    Early summer you get those winds that pop up from the south southwest. Travel would be tough and you would need to pull off the lake often.
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    On the lake maybe a day and then faster in the river, raft 6feet wide x 8feet long, with a push pole about 10 to 15 feet off shore on the lake. maybe even a bark paddle. We did that in Georgia in Ranger school and in florida..
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    Thought about constructing a sail. Those winds would put you on a broad reach with little ability to head up very effectively, thus pushing you further and further from shore. So scratch that idea. Rather than paddling which would expend alot of energy, I'd look at polling while staying close to shore.
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    Because I've been on Lake Michigan and I know what the waves are like. Think ocean swells. And if a storm hits then things go from bad to dead. I was joking about Lake Superior although that would be just my luck. What river are you flowing south down?
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    If you're sticking close to shore then you're heading to Chicago. It's my kinda town but a loooong way down the shoreline.
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    If using a longer raft, them a long pole that could be used as a kayak paddle (both sides) would even the strokes and make steadier headway
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    Thing is build a fire to dry out some and warm up and take your time building the raft so its sturdy and well made, could take five six hours.
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    I sort of see about 7 or 8 of us still standing in the swamp debating on which way to go and how to get there.
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    See, I have no fire. So I'm a little limited on options. I'm still hoofing it around the lake.
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    Building a fire carrier to carry an ember (coke bottle bottom) to speed up fire building on shore.
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    Didn't I say: raft 6feet wide x 8feet long, with a push pole about 10 to 15 feet off shore on the lake. Oh yeah I did, hey carcajou garou you and me are outta here.
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