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    it was a small change but let me know if you see anything wonky


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    it was a small change but let me know if you see anything wonky
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    This from a man with 347 packs. 346 of which are all the same size and color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    This from a man with 347 packs. 346 of which are all the same size and color.
    And not one of them have a nice, new shiny survival kit! It's not right, I tell you, it's just not right!
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    With the upgrade I noticed that when I use the back button or try to post a reply I get a pop up asking me if I want to leave this page. Also, the board seems to hang up when making posts as well, like it just sits there spinning the little blue Windows wheel thingee. I originally thought this was due to my security settings, but have since restored them to defaults as a test, but the issues persist.

    Of course, the last unread post button still doesn't work either which makes seeing new posts a real challenge, as it takes forever to sift through page after page just to see if someone replied to one of your comments.

    Umm, I'm not sure if these issues are a problem for anyone else, but they are for me. It's a very cumbersome process to simply post a thread, and see updates to that thread. I kind of quit coming here because of it. It just takes forever to simply read a post or see updates in threads. I like reading what people here have to say, but it just takes forever to do so.

    This is a real issue and others have mentioned it. I'd suggest getting someone who knows whatever languages you are using here to buid these pages and such and have them figure out why the forum is not working properly, especially on IE browsers.

    I believe these issues will be bringing down your forum if left unattended, unless your intent is a static forum.

    This is just an FYI and not meant as an attack or anything.

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    I have not experienced the issues rwc1969 is having.
    I use Firefox under Linux.

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    RWC - The question you are getting is from your browser. I receive the same thing and not just on the forum but many other sites as well. That has nothing to do with your security settings. As to the clocking issue, that can occur because your ISP is restricting traffic, which many do at peak times, it can be an increase traffic in general, it can be a network issue anywhere in the pipeline or a local server issue hosting the forum. Just because you are clocking doesn't automatically indicate a forum issue. Think of it as water flow. Any restriction anywhere in the pipeline will impact what comes out of your faucet. That doesn't mean it's a problem at the water plant.

    To see new posts, click on What's New in the top green bar then go to the end of the thread. It takes no time at all. The problem on the button is inherent in vBulletin as I understand it. It has nothing to do with those programming this forum but simply a glitch in the vBulletin operating system. Some future update will incorporate a fix. Although new code, by any team, is usually extensively tested you are bound to find glitches once it's working in the real world. Stuff that just didn't show up in version testing.

    I think Chris has demonstrated a very real ongoing commitment to enhancements to the forum so I don't understand your static forum comment.
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    I get the message once in a while as well, seems like i get the "leave this page" when the browser 'hangs up' for a second....most of the time it's fine.
    I will say that this is the only site I get the message on.
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    This popup started in Firefox 4.X. It's called an onbeforeunload event. There is also an onunload event but I don't know if it also triggers the popup or not. Annoying as heck, that's for sure.

    Non-standard changes done to vBulletin by forum owners are generally done through hacks. While there are a lot of good ones out there they become a pain in the butt when you have to upgrade because you have to account for every hack and change that you've made so you can replicate it in the new version. vBulletin comes out with a lot of version releases some that Chris does not incorporate. I know his philosophy is to ensure a new release is stable in the real world before upgrading the forum and he's not a fan of hacks because of the upgrade issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwc1969 View Post
    With the upgrade I noticed that when I use the back button or try to post a reply I get a pop up asking me if I want to leave this page. Also, the board seems to hang up when making posts as well, like it just sits there spinning the little blue Windows wheel thingee. I originally thought this was due to my security settings, but have since restored them to defaults as a test, but the issues persist.

    Of course, the last unread post button still doesn't work either which makes seeing new posts a real challenge, as it takes forever to sift through page after page just to see if someone replied to one of your comments.

    Umm, I'm not sure if these issues are a problem for anyone else, but they are for me. It's a very cumbersome process to simply post a thread, and see updates to that thread. I kind of quit coming here because of it. It just takes forever to simply read a post or see updates in threads. I like reading what people here have to say, but it just takes forever to do so.

    This is a real issue and others have mentioned it. I'd suggest getting someone who knows whatever languages you are using here to buid these pages and such and have them figure out why the forum is not working properly, especially on IE browsers.

    I believe these issues will be bringing down your forum if left unattended, unless your intent is a static forum.

    This is just an FYI and not meant as an attack or anything.
    That sounds like a browser or a connection issue. What version of IE do you use?

    I personally recently switched to Google Chrome. Holy fast browser batman. I like it a lot. Very fast.

    Also, IE had memory leak issues where eventually, always, it would crash. My compute rwould run slower and slower and I'd check and IE is eating up 400 mb of ram or something ridiculous.

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    IE9, but it's only on this site that it does it. I think that would rule out a browser issue.

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    Perhaps, unless this is the only vbulletin forum you visit.

    It could be some of the more modern features not working right in Internet Explorer. It could also be a cache issue, you might try clearing your temporary internet files.

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    Hello, the 'jump to the first unread post' button is not working properly.
    I have tried it with the most recent Chrome and Firefox (both 7 & 8).

    Another interesting behavior when I read a post and navigate back to the index page the forum shows the topic is still unread. I have to navigate back to the index in two steps if I want the forum to mark the really read topics as read.

    Certainly I can live without these features and the forum is great but I think this feedback could be useful.
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    If you hit your browser's back arrow after reading a topic the thread will not be marked as read since you actually went backwards in time. After reading go to the "What's New" button at the top and you'll see all the new threads and your page will always be updated.
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    Of course, I don't use the browser's "back" button but the navigation links of the forum.
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    Just a thought. I've used the back button to expedite reading just a few posts. I've never experienced the problem you describe within the forum.
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    I have tried it on different machines and I have experienced the same behavior. It's funny. I guess it's something with the cookie handling of the browsers on linux.
    The What's New link is really useful.
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    You can also select "community" on the top tool bar and then "today's posts" from the drop down menu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    You can also select "community" on the top tool bar and then "today's posts" from the drop down menu.
    It's working well as the "What's New" menu. Great workaround for my problem, thank you.
    Just a side question: are you administering the site and the forum as well? I mean both the software and the hardware.
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    Chris is the owner of the site and administers the vBulletin database and the hardware. I have administrator privileges that allow some manipulation of the database for member profile issues such as login IDs, passwords, status, etc. Crash and Sarge have moderator privileges, which allow all three of us to manipulate threads/posts, spam and general settings.

    We are looking at the first post in a thread issue. Can you tell me what you get when you click on the icon? I was able to authenticate a problem. I just want to make certain it's the same thing you are running into. I know you're running Linux but what browser do you use most often? I have most loaded so I can test using whatever browser you have. I'm running on Windows, however.
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