NO "Standard action" cartridges, and NO long Action cartridges. (Please No fighting) But what is your choice of the single best "Short Action" Cartridge........????
OK, "Short action" Best centerfire cartridge.....?????
NO "Standard action" cartridges, and NO long Action cartridges. (Please No fighting) But what is your choice of the single best "Short Action" Cartridge........????
Well I shot my ole .22 German made junk .22 revolver tonight...Testing it for the gator hunt. I dissassembled cleaned blued and painted it last night. I am very happy after weldng, grinding, and making my own leaf springs for it. Playing with some glow sights now. Oops...missed the centerfire requirement.
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7mm-08......
7mm-08 is very good, I like the .243 also.
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7mm-08, .243, .308 Really depends upon what I am doing with it.
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Two of my favorites are .257 Bob & 7X57 (OK & the .284 Winchester). The truth is I just love the short action cartridges.
.300 WSSM,..... For when something really needs to die.....Way over there.
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I vote for the 308
.45 ACP Because shooting twice is silly... The avatar says it all,.45 because there isn't a.46
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I really like the .284. Really, really HATE the Winchester 100 (my very first hunting rifle).Originally Posted by Sourdough
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The 257 Roberts is a great round, so is the 6mm Rem but my favorite is still the plain old 308.
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Is 7.62 x 54R short action?
How about 7.5 x 55 Swiss?
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I guess I'll show my lack of knowledge when it comes to firearms......what are the main differences and the advantages/disadvantages of each (excluding length of course).
i would love to have a long action 308 built
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Not sure what your asking........Hopefully the difference in short action, Standard action, or Long action. As this would be answerable. To answer what is the difference in the cartridges, would require several 2" thick books.
Things get muddy with action/cartridge length. 7x57 mauser is considered a short action round and is as long as a 30-06 which is a long action round by all counts.
It used to be detirmined by action diameter, espically with the Mauser. They had 3 action sizes:
magnum= .300 H&H, .375 H&H length rifles.
Large ring= 8mm, 06 length rounds
small ring= 7x57, 6.5 swiss, .257 Roberts
The difference in the ring sizes of the receiver gave about a pound of weight saving between sizes of the barreled actions.
Winchester and Remington decided to call them magnum, long and short.
magnum actions=.300, .338, 7mm mag
Long actions= 30-06 size
Short action= .308, .243, .223
Then Sako and Ruger come out with a super shorty chambered in 7.62x39, .44mag, .223
In addition there are no rules between mfgs. Some put everything on a long action, like Savage. Some offer one cartridge as short action and another company will offer the same cartridge in what they call a medium action.
What really gets to you is when you order a gun in a cartridge that you thought would be a short/medium action and they send it in a long action that is 1/2" longer and weighs a pound more.
Advantages/disadvantages;
An action properly sized for the cartridge will feed more reliably. There will be less shifting of rounds in the magazine. There will be no unnecessary bolt travel. Weight will be less as well as length.
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Yes - this is exactly what I'm asking.
That's probably the best expansion I have ever heard...generally you only hear part of it and still end up wondering.
Thanks.
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Not much your average hunter in North America can't do with a .308. A 7mm-08 is probably one of the most balanced cartriages ever created and flat out kills with the best of them. Truth is either is near perfect for all but the largest of game IMO. I've hunted with a few .308's over the years and never wanted or needed "more" gun. They did exactly what was expected.....Kill deer and hogs cleanly and efficiently. I love my 30-06 but if I had to replace it, One of these two chamberings could very likely claim the role.
9mm: Because I've seen a .45 bounce off of a windshield MORE THAN ONCE.
9mm: Because even 1911 guys don't want to get shot with one of my "little" bullets.
9mm: Because low round count single stack pistols suck in a gun fight!
Kyratshooter explained things well but left out an important point. A short action is in theory more accurate than a long action becuase there is less "deviation/oscillation" of the action upon discharging the weapon. Long explantion made short is that a short action is "stiffer" than a long action. Less movement = more accurate (IN THEORY). Only the world's best shooters, shooting the worlds most accurate rifles could ever see even a miniscule difference in reality.
9mm: Because I've seen a .45 bounce off of a windshield MORE THAN ONCE.
9mm: Because even 1911 guys don't want to get shot with one of my "little" bullets.
9mm: Because low round count single stack pistols suck in a gun fight!
Very good explanation, more gooooder that I would have done. Rep point sent.
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