Survival Firearm

[FVR]

what's yours?

We can glamorize the primitive lifestyle, and many would survive if there were not outside dangers. Most animals will leave you alone in the wild. There is always that chance of happening upon a sow and cubs, a mountain lion, and in the west you have wolverines, and grizz. But the most feared critter in the middle of nowhere is, Man. What's your firearm of choice.

Mine is a FR-8. An old 98 mauser action, Spanish Gov., cut down mauser chambered in 308 or NATO 7.62. Round is readily available as the US uses it in the M-60 machine gun and a variety of sniper rifles.

It's a mauser and is a little heavy but it's compact size enables it to be very manuverable. Would like to put a scope on it as long as I can keep the iron sigts on.

I only hunt with a primitive bow or an old 45 cal. Kentucky that was built in the 50's. But in survival mode, 308 has it.

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[marberry]

lol im a james bond NUT so i never go anywhere without my PPKS .380 with a few extra clips, lol i know its eccentric but the damn thing is soo cool lol , only if im in the far north (52 N or farther) i dont wana get in trouble... here it isGuests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.

[FVR]

Guess alot of readers are wary about Uncle Sam seeing their guns. I have already messed that up with a CCP.

That's a nice CCP pistol. I don't own any modern handguns but do have a few C&B revolvers that accompany me on my treks. My fav. is a brass framed Navy Colt in 44. El cheapo but very accurate and I would not be hesitant to use it on a hog if needed. Not my pref. weapon on a hog, but it will do with a well placed shot.

I really like blackpowder as it isn't as regulated as modern firearms and the 44 with max 3F charge is compatable with the standard 38 round.

Also with blackpowder I can purch. a pound of powder for about 15 bucks, cast my own balls, make my own lube and the only other thing I have to purchase are the perc. caps. Have not tried to make them, yet.

Chances are if I'm in the woods, there is a C&P tucked away on me, somewhere.

[marberry]

lol yeah i actually paid $550 US for that gun. worth every penny though it has awesome accuracy and is very smooth. if im gona use it for hunting small-med game i bring 2 pellet guns my first one is a winchester break barrel model 1000B which fires at 1100 fps (1/3 M16 speed) and 1000 hunting pellets to go with it. i also bring , you guessed it, ppk/s co2 air pistol with blowback and 15 shot clip. it only shoots at 300 fps though , but its legal anywhere anytime so i bring it wheneva im hiking. its rly similar to the real thing besides the fact that its only $90 US lol. http://i31.piczo.com/view/3/b/7/u/8/...02_43169_7.jpg

[FVR]

I'll stick with the 308 as I can shoot critters ranging from rabbits and squirrels (save some meat), med. game like deer, hogs, coyotes, and even black bear, to larger game like elk, and if I have to a griz. with many well placed shots, from as far away as possible.

There are bigger guns but then you spoil too much smaller game.

Also, as glamorous as being close to game sounds, I would rather reach out and touch something.

[Tony uk]

I like the Glock 27 the best from the Discovery channel but i live in Scotland where we cant own guns

[the jack]

Give me a good ol 22 caliber. the ammo is very cheap and it will handle almost any small critter if your a good shot. many old timers provided food for their family with this as this was the only weapon they could afford in those days. Had a friend take down a whitetail with a headshot a few years back.

[KRASH!]

Glock 27 for me.
Although, I've swapped barrels to load .357 SIG.
Lightweight for backpacking and hiking, with 10 or 11 rounds and 1500 FPS.

If I took a shoulder weapon with me, it'd either be a collapsible stock AR-15, or most likely an AR-10... because FVR is absolutely correct that a .308 is so multi-purpose and versatile.
And you're nearly guaranteed to find that load in any store that carries firearms.

Anyone backpacking, camping, hiking, or riding dirtbikes/mountain bikes should always include a firearm as ABSOLUTELY NECCESARY. You never know what can happen, whether it be animals or people, and guns just naturally fix so many problems.

[sam30248]

I like my 8mm mauser it good all handling to me. IT also has cheap 8 mm ammo at gun shows

[sam30248]

I like my 8mm mauser it good all handling to me. IT also has cheap 8 mm ammo at gun shows cheap

[FVR]

I'm jamming right now. I just found out that Rem. has a reduced recoil 308 round. This is awsome for those that shoot the old military 7.62 / 308 rifles.

The 7.62 and 308, even though they are billed as the same round, they are not. Mil. ammo has a thicker casing and lower powder which leads to a lower psi in the receiver. The reason for this is that the mil. rifles have more room in the receiver than on the modern firearms. The 308 rounds fit and fire, but the brass is thinner and may have problems with expanding to the chamber of the rifle.

Most times there is no problem, but there is always that chance.

Also, the pressure in the rec. is diff. in mil. ammo vs modern ammo. Mil. ammo 7.62 pressure is in the 40,000 psi. while modern ammo, the weakest manuf. load is in the 50 to 52,000 psi. You can see the diff., and if your rifle is not in perf. condition, accidents may happen.

[WalkinWild]

Pistol a 45 auto but I,m kind of fond of my 22 Rifle.

[troutndeer]

I realy like the springfield m6 scout, .22 hornet over .410. It holds ammo in the stock and is very simple. I take an asortment of .410 shells and factory 46 grain soft point .22 hornet, Im working on a load that lowers velocitys to .22 long levels (minimal meat loss on small game) the gun with full power loads would make a fine 35 yard deer gun (100 yard with scope) the 3 inch .410 7.5 shot shells work great on small flying game. the 000 buck shells would work as a close range defence from dogs and wild cats. when teamed up with a mid-large pistol you are set for some time.

[Tony uk]

The SA80 is now my best rifle that ive ever used, i want one

[zack coyote]

I'm new to this forum, but not new to guns, and I suggest a lever action in .357 mag. A trapper length gun with a 16" barrel is handy, and still carries a lot of ammo in the magazine. The .357 can shoot a 180 gr. bullet at 1800 fps. or you can shoot .38 specials for small game. Many choices from Winchester, Marlin, Rossi, and others. I have 6 lever actions from .22 to 45-70, but I think the .357 could be the perfect survivor gun.

[Tony uk]

Instead of useing a large gun, could you noy use a smaller gun but with something like a hollowpoint bullet and it would have the same effect ?

[FVR]

Depends on how far away you want to be from your target. Depends if you have enough skill and confidence to use the smaller gun.

Pers. pistols are nice and I do carry one in the woods. Usually it's a 44 cap n ball loaded on five cylinders. However, I would not take a shot over 25 yds or bowrange on a critter.

A good rifle is just hard to beat. That 410 / 22 sounds awsome. The 410 can shoot a slug along with the shot for critters like deer and black bear. The 22 would take the rabbits, quail, and squirrels without destoying meat.

But remember, in a tight spot you're only going to get two shots before you have to break it open and reload.

I'll stick with the bolt action 308 and just make good shots on the small critters. And again, I can reach out and touch something if needed.

[troutndeer]

Tony U.K., Hollow points open up faster than a solid point. If you use a smaller gun with low velociteys (say a .22) the hollow bullet will destroy to much meat on small game and may not penetrate to leathel deps on larger game. In a larger gun (30-30, 30-06, 303) A soft point or hollow point desined for hunting is in order. hollow points are at their best as a close range defence round.

hope that helped

[Tony uk]

Thanks For That Info troutndeer

We cant own guns here anyway which is a bit of a bummer since we still have people getting killed by them

The only thing i could own is a shotgun (for bird hunting) or a airrifle

[mbarnatl]

I am in the process of getting a Henry U.S. Survival .22 rifle. It is an improved version of the U.S. Air Force AR-7. Here is the link if someone is interested in reading about it.