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    Default Mesquite beans

    Did the final sorting and cleaning over the weekend.

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    Ended up with 2 5gal buckets full. The hammermill comes to town next weekend. It'll cost me $10 to get them milled.

    I'll get around 15 lbs of flour from them. Considering 1lb of mesquite flour goes for around $12, that's a pretty good deal.

    More info on mesquite, from Desert Harvesters:
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    And you just foraged all that? You didn't cultivate these, right?
    Really awesome. Thanks for sharing.

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    Correct. I found a couple stands of trees in a nearby park, and at a local college campus. The trees are very prolific!

    I collected these over the Summer, over several weeks. I'd go out in the morning, before work, and get about half a cat litter bucket, in about 30 minutes.

    You gather them when they start to turn tan, and are getting ready to fall off. It's better to collect them from the tree than the ground, because it's less likely they're contaminated with chemicals or who knows what. Here's some that aren't quite ready:

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    I kept them in bags and buckets on my back porch, to allow them to dry. I ended up tossing about 2 gallons worth -- the ones with the very flat pods. I picked from a tree that wasn't right. I think it might have been an acacia, or maybe it was just a Chilean mesquite. Anyhow, I tasted all the various types of pods, and those kind weren't good. Not bad, but not sweet and spicy like those of the honey and velvet mesquites.

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    You do realize of course that if you emptied the cat litter box first, you'd be able to get a full container of beans don't you?
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    Look like cowpeas (purple-hull) to me. Can these be boiled like regular beans, with some ham? I was thinking, if you could boil them softer, you could mash them with a tater masher, then dry them back out for flour.
    Those trees don't grow around here (except the ones that have been planted for decoration) but I still enjoy learning about these types of things. Thanks very much grlscout!!

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    Hmmm... I dunno. If you look up Prosopis in the ethnobotany database, it says that some tribes ate the beans raw or cooked them as string beans. I imagine this would have to be done when the pods are fairly young.

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    The milling was on Saturday. Haven't had a chance to take the pics off my camera yet. But I have a couple from my cellphone.

    The hammermill in action:
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    My take, half a bucket of flour, and half a bucket of chaff:
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    Haven't weighed the flour yet, but it felt like about 10lbs. Some folks there told me that the chaff can be used for many things, including boiled down into a molassas, brewed into a beer, fed to chickens, and used as mulch.

    So I asked for the chaff from my pods. I think I'm going to try the syrup option.

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    Looks great! I'm thinking maybe try the beer option
    When you make some bread of it make sure you send some to QC for the taste test hehe.

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    So today I tried to make the syrup from the chaff.

    First, I tried the crockpot. But that just wasn't working. The stockpot was key.

    I think I ended up using 4 quarts of chaff and 8 quarts of water.

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    Strained out the solids, and reduced it for hours, until it was about 1/4 its volume.

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    After fussing over the pot for hours, and dirtying up countless bowls, measuring cups, and strainers, I was starting to think it wasn't worth it.

    But then I tasted it.

    So. Worth. It.

    It tastes like caramel sauce, with a hint of spice, like cinnamon! So freakin' good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grrlscout View Post
    The milling was on Saturday. Haven't had a chance to take the pics off my camera yet. But I have a couple from my cellphone.

    The hammermill in action:
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    Not gonna' swear to it, But that looks like wild sunflowers along the fence, and behind the mill.

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    They are indeed sunflowers. Don't know if they are wild or not.

    The milling took place at a local farm. So they could have been planted, though perhaps, haphazardly.

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    That is so cool they bring a mill in for you,, do you have to shuch the beans ,, or just grind everything ?

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    They just grind everything.

    The seeds make the flour, which is caught it in the trash bin, in the second photo.

    The pod casing becomes the chaff. Since it's lighter, is blown into the bag in the foreground.

    I made the syrup with the chaff (which is usually thrown away).

    Here's the flour:

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    I've mostly been using it to make pancakes and cookies.

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    I'll bet it would make great biscuits too

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    That seems like a really cool plant to have around.

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    Nutritious too! I just found the stats today:

    Code:
    NUTRITIONAL VALUE : 
    Velvet mesquite's fruits are nutritious.  The thick and spongy pericarp
    is high in sugars and the seeds contain large amounts of protein.
    Fruits also supply a good source of minerals for herbivores.  Because
    plants fix nitrogen, the leaves are high in protein.  
    
    Nutritional information concerning velvet mesquite fruit is presented
    below [4]:
    
                    % N    % crude   % fat    % fiber   % ash   % total 
                           protein                               sugars
    
    seed            5.13    29.44    5.68      7.12     3.83      ----
    pericarp        1.13     6.88    2.24     23.48     5.52      31.6
    whole pod       1.95    11.81    2.36     22.61     4.83      22.2
    
    The mineral composition of velvet mesquite fruit is as follows [4]:
    
                   % Ca   % Mg   % Na   % K   ppm Cu  ppm Zn  ppm Mn  ppm Fe
    
    seed           .26    .18    .06    .68    13.6    49.6    24.2    46.6
    pericarp       .63    .09    .04   1.16     6.4     9.6    11.6    48.8
    whole pods     .53    .09    .03   1.27     8.3    26.4    14.5    40.4
    
    Nutritional information concerning velvet mesquite leaves and fruits
    collected in southern Arizona is presented below [110]:
    
              season      % protein    % K    P/Ca ratio    % In Vitro
              collected                                     digestibility
    
    leaves    spring        17.6       .23       .28            62.3
    fruit     summer        9.5        .16       .23            66.5
    leaves    autumn        16.4       .10       .05            44.8
    leaves    winter        15.8       .10       .05            44.9
    As you can see, the seeds -- which make the flour -- are very high in protein, almost 30%; as well as good quantities of Zinc, Manganese, and Iron.

    While the pericarp -- or the pods -- which make the chaff, are high in natural sugars, and rich in Potassium and Iron.

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    I didn,t know they were good for any thing we have alot of them trees around here learn something new every day.
    If i don't get some whiskey soon i'm going to die!!!!!! didn't put eough dirt down saw it right off...

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    If I read that correctly, that means they are.. umm.. how do I say it.. 66% efficient fuel?

    Remind me what mineral is P?

    and what is the ash%? that's a new one to me.
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