when he and his guys confronted 280 of them in the midst of armed robberies, as part of NYPD'S Stakeout team, 1968. These guys were robbing the same liquor stores, 2x a day. They were and are a lot more "hard core" than anyone a typical defender faces, and Jim had them "cornered" in the store. Leave them an "out", and 90+% will just flee, not make you shoot them. Read his book, at Paladin Press, or order it thru your library's book loan program
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