hey i wanted to now if you were to take 550 paracord with you on a small hike witch way would you carry it?
1.a bracelet
2.belt
3. or in a 50ft bundle in your pack
hey i wanted to now if you were to take 550 paracord with you on a small hike witch way would you carry it?
1.a bracelet
2.belt
3. or in a 50ft bundle in your pack
Hey, I wanna' know if you're gonna' post an Introduction. Have you done one already?
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Yes.
Bracelet, belt, hat band, small hanks, sheath wrap, rifle sling, bottle wrap, knife wrap, hiking pole wrap, and on and on. Depends on where I'm hikning, and how long I'll be.
Hey - don't get tied up in knots over it, but when you get a chance - stop on by the Introduction section and tell us about yourself. Thanks.
What Crash said. Plenty of ways to carry it. Plenty more uses for it.
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I recently bought a big roll of the stuff. I am still debating on how to carry it. I think I might make a bracelet. But I also want to roll it on something to make it easier to use. Something like what nutnfancy has on his USK.
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I carry mine seperately. If I want to use it I don't want to be untieing a bunch of knots to do it.
sjj, have you looked at amsteel?
http://www.reddenmarine.com/marine-s...-64-green.html
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Wow, you work fast. I haven't bought any myself, but it is all the rage with hammockers for rigging their systems. I just bought some 1 mm line that I think is dacron and has a 200lb test at a local store. When I get home, I will tell you what it is. I was looking for tarp lines and 200 lb test is much higher than I need.
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hey chrashdive is it true that each inch of your wrist is a foot of cord with a cobra stitch?
Last edited by survivalpro#4; 04-21-2010 at 06:43 PM.
Great link and good info! Thanks, fM!
Let me ignite a possible firestorm here.
Back in the day, I taught classes in rappelling. Local fire, rescue, and SWAT teams. We trained off of high-rise buildings, water tanks, and a couple of pretty tall bridges, including these two sites:
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When I started as a student myself at the academy, we used 3/4" manilla line (rope ) and a rappelling belt with 3 buckles and a 10" - 6 lb. carabiner. The belt was designed to attach to the rings of a second belt and hold the weight of two heavy men descending with gear. It worked exactly as it was designed to. I can't find anything on the web quite like it, but it was on this line, just a much wider belt with a three "belt buckle" set-up and a much larger pair of rings and carabiner.
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Over the years, the gear I used became much smaller and lighter, and we switched over to 3/4" synthetic line. Last time I rappelled was about 6 years ago, and I used a newer style belt and 1/2" line and was amazed at how light it all was, even in comparison to the "newer" stuff I had used later on in my classes.
Back in the 80's, I spent some time doing contract work at the WTC. Even then, I thought about getting trapped in that building in the event of a fire. Little did I ever suspect how bad it could have been ..... Anyway, I remember thinking that if my regular office were there, I would want enough line on hand to be able to smash out a window and make it down to the street. Then I figured that the necessary gear would take up as much room as a desk.
As crazy as it seems, I'd love to know if the lightest amsteel (unlike paracord) could be safely used to rappell in an emergency. From the looks of what's available today, all the gear for even a 1,000' descent could be easily carried in a small duffel bag. I'd love to try doing it. Heck, my kids are all grown up now.
EDIT: This pic is a lot closer to the belts we used back then. Just add three buckles and heavy rings.
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Last edited by Ken; 04-21-2010 at 08:15 PM.
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ok cause i just made one and i got 1 whole foot of extra witch is a waste so i wandered in it ever worked for you
Last edited by Ken; 04-21-2010 at 08:20 PM.
“Learning is not compulsory. Neither is survival.”
W. Edwards Deming
"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils."
General John Stark
Survivalpro - That formula is not correct. It will not only depend on the stitch used but you also have to calculate in the type of connectors on the end (buckle, carabiner, etc.)
sff - I couldn't agree with you more. Climbing rope is fine-tuned for the optimum combination of weight, number of falls, impact force, handling and durability. It must provide a soft catch and be durable, while not having too much elongation. Folks should only use climbing rope if they intend to climb.
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One point of clarification here. I was always incredibly cautious with the rope we used. When we used manilla rope for rappelling, back in the day, we only considered it safe for for one training event. Even the best stuff was so prone to deterioration that we never ever used it for that purpose again at another point in time. We got all of our rope from the Bidden Cordage Company (formerly of East Providence, R.I.). http://www.onlinebristol.com/busines...w-details.html
The reason I asked the question is simple. If the properties of Amsteel lent themselves to ONE SAFE USE as rappelling rope, it would be a heck of a lot better to use it for that purpose it in an emergency than to be killed in a fire - or vaporized in a tower collapse. Quite frankly, I'd probably STILL take my chances with the rope in such a dire circumstance.
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W. Edwards Deming
"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils."
General John Stark
We used hemp rope or "horse hair" years ago when we still did tree trimming. It was good stuff. We changed over to nylon while I was still outside and it took some getting used to. The nylon would stretch forever compared to horse hair. We were working in a college town in the early '70s and one of the guys decided he'd impress a couple of girls walking down the street. He dropped out of the tree. Tightened up the rope. The rope stretched, he slapped the sidewalk and just sort of hung there a couple of feet off the ground. We laughed and reminded him that nylon stretches. He would have been okay with the horse hair.
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Thing is, we often used the manilla rope to rappell over salt water. Can you say "rope rot?"
The synthetic stuff did take some getting used to.
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W. Edwards Deming
"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils."
General John Stark
The rope we use for pole top rescue is just a 1/2" nylon rope..the same stuff we make our handlines with. It is not rated for human loads or overhead lifting but someone (our company or the manufacturer, not sure who) decided that it is safe for a rescue. I guess my point is, if I had to get out of someplace, like you I would try whatever rope I had at the time.
You bet. I'm with you guys. Any port in a storm. If it's a have to case and you know what the results are if you don't then you might as well give it a shot.
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