Mosin Nagant 91/30

[Rick]

Well, I bought another one. I have a whole rant saved up for Gander Mountain, those bums. I sent a their VP Sales a letter today. But!!.....I found some here: http://www.aimsurplus.com/catalog.aspx?groupid=12 For $79.00 I also picked up 300 rounds of ammo. The great thing is the ammo comes with original Polish stripper clips, which seem to be pretty rare. All I've been able to find are the cheapo's that don't work.

[hunter63]

Cool, did you have to ship it?
There site also has the MM Czech Mauser's, used to have one of those, bolt pulled straight back then straight forward, cool, but scared the carp out of me.

[Rick]

Yeah, they are doing a dealer transfer for me. I'll probably pick it up next week.

[2dumb2kwit]

Dang, Rick.....I got so excited reading this thread, youda thunk I got a new mosin. (New to me, not New England Westinghouse (N.E.W)) LOL

I can't wait, for the first range report!

[Rick]

I picked up 300 rounds of Polish sealed in a can. They come on stripper clips so I'll have a bunch of original ones.

[crashdive123]

I picked up 300 rounds of Polish sealed in a can. They come on stripper clips so I'll have a bunch of original ones.

The ammunition, the sausage, or the people?

[2dumb2kwit]

Does a polish stripper put her clothes on, when the music starts?

[Rick]

Polish. To keep my rifle polished. Stripper clips are short movies about strippers. Do I have to explain everything to you guys?

[2dumb2kwit]

Polish. To keep my rifle polished. Stripper clips are short movies about strippers. Do I have to explain everything to you guys?

Wait....you payed a stripper $100 to polish your gun???

[2dumb2kwit]

Rick, I'm sure that you have done this, but just for the record.....clean the chamber really, really good. A lot of Mosin newbies have a problem with sticky bolts. Most of the time, (almost all.) the cause is cosmoline in the chamber. (That stuff is he!!, after you melt it, and then it cools.) LOL

[2dumb2kwit]

Still waiting for that range report.

[hunter63]

Wait....you payed a stripper $100 to polish your gun???

No sir I'm not gonna, not gonna, not gonna...................

[Icemancometh]

I love my unissued M44, got it for $72 about 3 years ago.

[Rick]

I picked up the second one yesterday and spent 3 hours cleaning that thing. It had to be the last rifle packed that day and the packer needed to get rid of the cosmoline. Hoowee it was full. Same arsenal but this one is a 1942 model.

2 questions for you.

I found a site offering a good price on 7.62x54mmR

1. Isn't that a different round than 7.62x54R? I read the mm was the first smokeless round or something to that effect and the 54R came later. Is that right?
2. Are they interchangeable? I guess the mm has me confused.

[2dumb2kwit]

I'm confused, too. I've seen 7.62x54mm (Not rimmed) and 7.62x54R (rimmed). I'm not sure what 7.62x54mmR is. I would think it's 54R, but I would call and ask, to be sure.

[2dumb2kwit]

Rick, If you have questions that us dummies here can't answer, this is where the knowledgeable Mosin collectors hang out.

http://forums.gunboards.com/

Scroll down to "the collectors forum- mosin nagant HQ".

Also, if you scroll further down, there is the "Ammo bunker."

[2dumb2kwit]

Now...if you had some of that ammo in your hand...

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmoID.htm

[Rick]

I sent them an email but they didn't answer my first question. They just said it's inter-changeable. Well, it's not their butt that will be out there pulling the trigger but they ARE the ones making a sale so I thought I'd get a second opinion....on the ammo.

[hunter63]

I believe that they are the same cartridge as well.
Seems that the size is 7.62x54mm, the the R was added to signify "Rimmed", not Russian as some believe.

Little more info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62x54mmR

They also have pic's of the case.
Seems there is a heavy load, 187+/- and a 147+/- gr as well as others.
I sure they will shoot differently, but then again they arn't gonna be shooting a sub moa group anyway.

[2dumb2kwit]

I believe that they are the same cartridge as well.
Seems that the size is 7.62x54mm, the the R was added to signify "Rimmed", not Russian as some believe.

Little more info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62x54mmR

They also have pic's of the case.
Seems there is a heavy load, 187+/- and a 147+/- gr as well as others.
I sure they will shoot differently, but then again they arn't gonna be shooting a sub moa group anyway.

A friend of mine, did this with my 91/30. (Top right target.(The squares are 1")) He's a much better shot than I am, and he has much younger eyes.

This was at 100 yds. He was sitting at a picnic table, with the rifle layed over an ammo bag.

(And yes...that's a hole, in the center.)