Big Foot

**ryaninmichigan** · 08-10-2007, 03:31 PM

Who here has the guts to raise their hand and say they believe? Some group was in Michigan awhile back looking around. I have spent an impressive amount of time in some very remote forest and I am here to say NO WAY

**Sarge47** · 08-10-2007, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by ryaninmichigan

Who here has the guts to raise their hand and say they believe? Some group was in Michigan awhile back looking around. I have spent an impressive amount of time in some very remote forest and I am here to say NO WAY

I thought we covered this on another thread. If there is a Bigfoot somebody's gonna have to throw a poison dart at it!

**trax** · 08-10-2007, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge47

I thought we covered this on another thread. If there is a Bigfoot somebody's gonna have to throw a poison dart at it!

Only if it charges....bigfoot with a credit card?

**Tony uk** · 08-10-2007, 04:33 PM

Unless there is solid evidence tat a creature like this exists then i do not beleve the storys

**wareagle69** · 08-10-2007, 05:43 PM

okay true story here.

when i was about 10 or so (you do the math) there was a story on the radio about bigfoot being sighted in northern ontario close to our camp. so late at night in the downstairs bedroom there are two bunkbeds i was on the top and my sister on the bottom one across from me i woke up in the middle of the night full moon and looked out across the field did not see anything but wierd feeling then we heard something trying to turn the handle on the camp door scared the crap outta me probably a coon but...

do i believe? lets just say i dont disbelieve.

**spiritman** · 08-10-2007, 09:47 PM

I have heard so many first hand stories I don't know what to believe anymore.

**wareagle69** · 08-10-2007, 09:52 PM

the way civilization is encroaching on previously uninhabbited land and w/climate change and all i think by now we would have seen something but that being said maybe they are smarter than we are and really good at survival wish they would log on so i could pick their brain a bit.

**Fog_Harbor** · 08-12-2007, 07:29 PM

I believe in Big Foot! I grew up near the Basketball Hall of Fame, and there sure were some big shoes in there!

**eddiec** · 08-12-2007, 07:59 PM

I'm not saying I believe, but to all myth, there is a little truth somewhere...Personally, I think the chupacabra ate him.

**Sarge47** · 08-12-2007, 09:06 PM

Bigfoot, Smigfoot. Several people have come forward and confessed or blew the whistle on those who made many of those footprints. After over 50 years of BF. reports we don't have as much as a piece of BF fur, claw, or poo. Why don't we have one accidently shot by an overzealous deer hunter, or hit by a car, semi, train or something?

I say somebody put up a $50,000 dollar bounty on one and see what happens! It's probably just Bear Grills in his bear costume again.

Notice these facts are prevalant in any sighting. All camera shots are "out of focus". All video shots are shaky.(Anybody ever hear of a "Steady Cam?") I saw & heard several reports where people claimed their otherwise ferocious dogs cowered in fear and that they don't know anything that would make them do that. Well I hate to burst their bubble but I met a "dog trainer" that accomplished the same thing shaking an empty pop-can with about 50 pennies in it. The dogs hated the sound and backed down.

**ryaninmichigan** · 08-13-2007, 10:11 AM

There is no such thing. If there had why has no one shot one? If I ever see one, The world will no for sure becuase I will be selling his fur on E bay

**trax** · 08-13-2007, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge47

Bigfoot, Smigfoot.I saw & heard several reports where people claimed their otherwise ferocious dogs cowered in fear and that they don't know anything that would make them do that. Well I hate to burst their bubble but I met a "dog trainer" that accomplished the same thing shaking an empty pop-can with about 50 pennies in it. The dogs hated the sound and backed down.

Man, I'd sure hate to meet up with a bigfoot with a popcan full of pennies then, that'd be scary. Can't agree with Ryan shooting one if he ever did see it (presuming it exists for him to see it) I only shoot for food or self-defense(never had to for that yet) I can't say I believe or disbelieve, but here's an interesting point. Native people had legends about them waaaaaaaaaaayyy before Europeans ever got here and opened up their first taco stand in Costa Rica. Don't think they were telling the stories for the media sensationalism at the time. Just because I never seen something doesn't mean it's not there. I've never seen a germ, but I have a cold right now.

**Sarge47** · 08-13-2007, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by trax

Man, I'd sure hate to meet up with a bigfoot with a popcan full of pennies then, that'd be scary. Can't agree with Ryan shooting one if he ever did see it (presuming it exists for him to see it) I only shoot for food or self-defense(never had to for that yet) I can't say I believe or disbelieve, but here's an interesting point. Native people had legends about them waaaaaaaaaaayyy before Europeans ever got here and opened up their first taco stand in Costa Rica. Don't think they were telling the stories for the media sensationalism at the time. Just because I never seen something doesn't mean it's not there. I've never seen a germ, but I have a cold right now.

The keyword here is "Legends" and germs explains why we don't have any real evidence for them...the germs eat it all...rather quickly.

I may be wrong here, but I think there might be a slight difference in size between an alleged BF and a Microbe, just a feeling.

I need more than an old legend, some footprints, and bad photography to prove a fact, trax, ya got any?

**owl_girl** · 08-13-2007, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by trax

but here's an interesting point. Native people had legends about them waaaaaaaaaaayyy before Europeans ever got here and opened up their first taco stand in Costa Rica.

That’s what I said when there was a big foot discussion on the scariest moment thread. I think the footprints and videos are fake. But I think there’s a good possibility that there were big ape like creatures still alive in North America before the Europeans populated the western half of the US. How would the native people have such good description of an ape if they never seen one? That’s the only thing that I consider good evidence (evidence not proof) I don’t think its impossible for them to exist now just highly unlikely.

**trax** · 08-13-2007, 03:08 PM

I said just cuz I can't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And as for the legends....well, it's a prett weird coincidence that some Indian sitting in his tipi two thousand years ago would think up a story for frightening the kiddies that some white people would start filming with their shaky cams two thousand years later.

I have no evidence sir, but I'm just saying I don't disbelieve That sounds like a kind of a cop-out, but really I'm just saying there isn't enough evidence either way.

Those legends were passed down for a long time, somebody must have taken them pretty seriously, man. I'm shrugging my shoulders here.

**spiritman** · 08-13-2007, 03:14 PM

How about we ask anybody who has actually lived off the grid? Any unexplained happenings while you were living it up?

**trax** · 08-13-2007, 03:25 PM

Living off the grid in northern Saskatchewan, Manitoba and BC in mineral exploration and firefighting camps. Also have had the opportunity to hunt and fish in country that most people never get into. Seriously back woods, never saw so much as a sign myself, like I said to the Sarge, I don't have evidence, but that doesn't make me disbelieve or believe. I'd love to see something definitive.

**Sarge47** · 08-13-2007, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by spiritman

How about we ask anybody who has actually lived off the grid? Any unexplained happenings while you were living it up?

Back when I got my jollys harrassing the Bf=BS goofs, I called Dr. Ron Hood, who says that he's heard & seen some unexplained stuff out in the woods. My point is that the "pro-BF" crowd are declaring their view as fact! Some of this stuff is so bogus it makes me sick! As I posted earlier, Penn & Teller shot down a lot of it on their Showtime series "BullSh*t!"

**spiritman** · 08-13-2007, 03:35 PM

lol yeah there is a lot of bs out there that i've heard but then there are first hand stories that I've heard direct from the source, from ppl I believe.

**Sarge47** · 08-13-2007, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by trax

I said just cuz I can't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And as for the legends....well, it's a prett weird coincidence that some Indian sitting in his tipi two thousand years ago would think up a story for frightening the kiddies that some white people would start filming with their shaky cams two thousand years later.

I have no evidence sir, but I'm just saying I don't disbelieve That sounds like a kind of a cop-out, but really I'm just saying there isn't enough evidence either way.

Those legends were passed down for a long time, somebody must have taken them pretty seriously, man. I'm shrugging my shoulders here.

I'll admit I'm pickin' on ya Trax, but only because the other side of the arguement gets moved outta sight! The magazine: "The Skeptical Enquirer did a great article on both BF and the nut-cases that make up stuff to support their outlandish claims.

As for the Native Americans, the stories they told might have been their version of a "Boogy Man", or an actual experience with a rival tribe who dressed wierd. Check out the movie: "The 13th Warrior" with Antonio Banderas.

Here's a hard & true fact: After over 50 years of Bf reports we have no facts to support a concrete claim that BF exists. Not one body, not any fur, not any scat. You're a hunter, right? What does that say to you? Remember those big footprints? We got people admitting they made the footprints themselves. Are they telling the truth? One story's as good as another in my book.