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    Thumbs down Drinking Pee?????????

    Soooo, drinking urine is okay cuz Bear G. says so? Here's what John "Lofty" Wiseman writes in his book "The SAS survival Handbook". (Some of you may remember that the great Grylls claims he was in the SAS. Mr Wiseman spent 26 years in their service) pg.42, down at the bottom: "WARNING: URINE & SEA WATER never drink either-Never!"

    Now from Reid Kincaid's book: "The Extreme Survival Almanac".By the way, Mr. Kincaid is a physician assistant(PA-C) with many degrees. pg. 54 in the chapter "Finding Water". "WHAT NOT TO DRINK: DO NOT drink sea water, compass fluid, anti-freeze,or urine. The salt and toxins in all of these far outweigh their water content."

    What does that say to you guys?
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    if you drink it 2 you will die.
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    I have lived in the south and worked either outdoors or in un-airconditioned buildings my whole life. When its 100+ degrees and 85% humidity you get dehydrated pretty quick. No matter how much water you drink you don't pee very often, and when you do there is very little volume and very concentrated waste. By the time you get desparate enough to drink pee, it prolly won't be an option.

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    Thumbs down What the Army says.

    This is taken directly from the US Army Survival Manual FM 21-76, the same manual this web-site is based on. Pg5-6 (Chapter 5 pg. 6, top of the page.) It shows a small chart that lists 4 questionable sources of water. Urine is #2 with the caveat "Contains harmful body wastes. Is about 2%salt." Then directly under this illustration #5-2 it reads: "CAUTION: Do not substitute the fluids listed in figure 5-2 for water."

    At this point you should probably be asking yourself which group/person you're going to believe, one guy on a highly-questionable survival show or his superior in the SAS, an assistant Physician, & the US Army. Hmmmm, let me see now....
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    Default But Sarge

    I keep coming back to this! How can you possibly question this Bear Grylls dude? HE STAYED IN A HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS LAST NIGHT!!!

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    Cool Bear trap!

    Maybe one of these Inn's will hire Bear as their spokesperson. By the way, if any of you guys don't have the US Army Survival Manual can just go to this site's home-page and click on #6 on the list of chapters at the left hand side. scroll down to figure 6-2 and be sure to read the caveat right above it>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge47 View Post
    Maybe one of these Inn's will hire Bear as their spokesperson.
    I thought they had, isn't that the business he's in??
    some fella confronted me the other day and asked "What's your problem?" So I told him, "I don't have a problem I am a problem"

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    the problem with urine is that it will dehydrate you even more.
    you could try to distille it. let me get back to you on this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by wareagle69 View Post
    the problem with urine is that it will dehydrate you even more.
    you could try to distille it. let me get back to you on this..

    Yea didnt they do that in a movie once?? I think it was kevin costners waterworld.
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    I actually heard, when I was a child, that the guys who were rescued from that big coal mine collapse in Nova Scotia (I think it was in the late '50's, Springhill) survived by drinking each other's urine. I'm shrugging here, maybe it's just a myth, maybe they were making matters worse for themselves.

    I know the longer you go without water, the more concentrated your waste will become because I've done fasts without food and water and man, you still pee, but.....yeck!
    some fella confronted me the other day and asked "What's your problem?" So I told him, "I don't have a problem I am a problem"

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    Cool Still urine.

    Quote Originally Posted by wareagle69 View Post
    the problem with urine is that it will dehydrate you even more.
    you could try to distille it. let me get back to you on this..
    Yes, my books also say that you can "distill" both urine and sea water by making a solar still. One of the "I Shouldn't Be Alive: The Science of Survival" demonstrated how to make a good solar still.
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    Ok, urine isn't poisonous, first off. You probably shouldn't drink it unless you really need to because it's composed of all the liquid waste products of the body. The way to drink it is to boil it for a few minutes, then let it cool.
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    yeah sarge heard about that with both because of the salt content, just going thru my library to confirm before i shoot me mouth off, maybe i wiil have to be more like ghandi and try it first

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    Thumbs down Heed the words of the wise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Strider View Post
    Ok, urine isn't poisonous, first off. You probably shouldn't drink it unless you really need to because it's composed of all the liquid waste products of the body. The way to drink it is to boil it for a few minutes, then let it cool.
    POINT!! Most expets warn never to drink it unless it's been distilled first...repeat...NEVER!!!!
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    The salt content in urine is low, but still not good, and urea is poisonous in large amounts. You can drink the stuff, but why would you want to drink what your body has already rejected?

    The only way I'd do it would be to distill it, and then only by boiling it and distilling the steam.
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    To me, drinking raw urine or seawater is to be reserved until faced with imminent death from dehydration, even then, it's a judgement call...

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    Default I agree with donny h

    But, the situation that I mentioned...in the mine collapse, there's no way those guys could boil or distill the urine. That was a coalmine, but in any mine collapse or trapped situation, you extinguish every kind of flame to preserve oxygen, even the cap lamps.
    some fella confronted me the other day and asked "What's your problem?" So I told him, "I don't have a problem I am a problem"

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    How many experts say drink urine besides Bear and when he does it you can see that the vegitations seems to say hey there is a creek right here but no
    bear keeps hiting it like a wino on a bottle of muscetel
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    Sorry to be so contradictory to so many veteran members on my fist post, it is not my intent to troll. One of the most amazing survival stories I have ever heard included drinking urine. That was Aaron Ralston.

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