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For long term survival, it would take a huge BOB.

Here is our place:
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Same as you, we have no need to bug out. Here, the forest surrounds us. Our neighbors have 4 legs or slither on the...

We will also be bugging in. We have shelter, food, water and a wood stove for winter heat.

Although we moved here to enjoy the beauty and solitude, we live where most would consider a BOL.

IMO and for a few reasons, kyratshooter's "In a real SHTF situation you probably aren't going...