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heh heh. i forgot to mention the best part, that you don't need charred cloth to go with it, because, well, it BECOMES charred cloth lol.

little amish girls would get a fire going with a long piece of corduroy cloth, that they held at each end after looping it over a branch, then pulling each end alternately, quickly, making massive...

i have tried powerful magnifying glasses with zero luck. can anyone tell me how to make a fire with a magnifying glass? maybe dried fine grass is not the right tinder? help a newb!

just look at any of the numerous sponsors on the bottom of the page lol. tons of survival kits, and flit and steel kits.