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Localized economies is considered by many as a fundamental component of sustainability.

Search Oily Casandra on YouTube. She can explain it better than me.

Transportation is indeed major consideration. Good post.

This is the definition of sustainabilty I hoped would be the boundaries of this discussion that we may find our way. Yes it is hopeless.

"The history of sustainability traces human-dominated...

The premise of the OP was that we have been in balance in the past and asks how far back we will have to go now to find that balance again. Nature will ultimately decide in ways too horrific for many...

I remember a few old timers from my youth that were of the WW I era and the stories they told of how things were better and how they got screwd up. Then my parents generation say we should have never...

Theres no next to it. This administration is trying to shut down our state. I think he is trying to make Chicago the capital of the world. The rest of us can go to hell.

Fleeing is and option I hadn't thought about. I guess they could try. Unless you can't tell I'm being silly but someday we will be making a choice between freedom and obeying the law.

When you are out in the woods do you go back to town to get somebody to handle your problems or do you bury them on the spot?

Yes, it does. Win or loose I stand a chance against criminals not so with the government. I don't trust them with any power let alone absolute power. I like the old westerns where each man had to...

And it will get even safer under totalitarian rule. Video cameras everywhere, neighbors reporting neighbors, FEMA ready to step in. Very safe indeed. AS a truck driver I was forced to take training...

Fox news, most of talk radio.

I saw a statistic that said 75 percent of the world population live like that now. The economy is raising that percentage each day. An adjustment is coming and my question is at what level do you...

This kind of is what I'm getting at. When is it too much. Helping friends and family, a tribal society, a rebublic with strong states rights or full blown totalitarian NWO? Where do you draw the...

You must have seen this promotional add.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wiRhVzsXFM

Since when?

It really does not take that much time. One moose will feed you a long time and fish is even easier. One thing I like about the bush is all the time I have to progress. Like you I like the trappings...

or...no sex for the entire planet for 40 years.

That is farther back than I was thinking but you may very well be right. I was thinking some time before the industrial revolution and after the development of steel. I think the plains indians was...

What's that compared to playing with a rechargable chainsaw in my yard?

I am confident the battery will run down before I run out of wood.

No twisted knickers here and I can prove it by being as off topic as everybody else. I picked up a cordless chainsaw yesterday. I have agonized over the decision to buy it for some time but finally...

There are thousands of websites dedicated to sustainability. I made the false assumption that this was a forgone conclusion among survivalists and have no more interest in convincing people of this...

If only I could get all the Chinese to jump up all at once....

This way of life is disappearing fast even in Alaska. All you have to do is look at population densities to see why. It will be more illegal as time goes by and wilderness survivalists will be...