http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums A public discussion forum on wilderness surivival, primitive technology, and disaster preparedness. en Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:26:43 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13326&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:07:57 GMT Shadows growing long, clouds passing over the sun. Is it still possible to use a magnifying glass to make fire? ... Shadows growing long, clouds passing over the sun. Is it still possible to use a magnifying glass to make fire?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjz4Yk93ChE

Earlier in the day I tested it's effectiveness on different tinder types

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnRTlbSs9kA

It wouldn't ignite cotton balls or a single large curly mag shaving, not sure why.

It would ignite quite a few other types of natural and man made tinders as the video shows. ]]> General Survival Discussion rwc1969 http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13326 http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13325&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:30:24 GMT This is a PDF , Article by COL Rich Hooker

http://www.irunbox.com/blog_attachme...1&d=1272917648 ]]> General Chat Justin Case http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13325 http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13324&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:00:34 GMT

There's a big push lately for eating local. Restaurants like to promote menus with ingredients harvested locally and grocery stores advertise produce grown on nearby farms.

A concept for a grocery store that actually grows its own fruits and vegetables on site is taking the "local" adage to an entirely new level.

The do-it-yourself grocery store concept called Agropolis combines hydroponic, aeroponic and aquaponic farming to grow vegetables without soil in an urban environment. Shoppers will come in and see all the produce growing on-site and point to what they want. Nutrients from fish in aquaculture tanks goes to feed the plants, and the whole place becomes an ecosystem. A restaurant there will also serve produce from the urban farm.

Agropolis was just presented this week at the Nordic Exceptional Trendshop 2010 conference an annual event that showcases technology taking place through September 3 in Arhus, Denmark. As conference attendee Augustus Schraven writes in Tech the Future, the concept came about as a solution to a challenge laid down by Rob Nail, a VP of corporate development at the interdisciplinary Singularity University on the NASA Ames campus.

Nail asked a team of business professionals to figure out a way to produce food locally without arable land. The diverse team consists of MBA student Robert Denning, bioinformaticist Rand Hindi, entrepreneur Anders Hvid, tech and public health expert Maggie Jack, comp-sci masters student Derek Jacoby and biotechnologist business strategist Sam Thorp. According to their site, the team would like to collaborate with NASA to put "sensor and robotic innovations" in hydroponic systems, research genetically modified organisms that could work best in the controlled growing environment and integrate advanced lighting such as LEDs into the design.

In the past, I wrote about retrofitting shipping containers to grow produce at mind-boggling rates without sunlight, dirt or pesticides, and using minimal water and nutrients. The downside to that is, now that I think about it, the harvesting still remains hidden from view. As a farmers' market fan whose heart also does a little dance inside nice grocery stores, I love the idea of incorporating controlled growing technology into an urban grocery store. It's the next best thing to picking tomatoes off vines in the backyard.

One of the challenges to urban farming is getting the volume and variety of produce to feed a sizable, picky population. A store like Agropolis could be the perfect proof of concept -- not just for scaling up urban farming, but also for making efficient soil-free tech work in concert with a sustainable aquaculture ecosystem. Add a cheese-making operation and I'm there.
http://news.discovery.com/tech/harve...mkcpgn=rssnws1 ]]> General Chat Justin Case http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13324 http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13323&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:43:39 GMT (What do y'all think ? should he get the reward or was he just doing his job ?

Ranger Whose Tip Led to Capture of Ariz. Fugitives May Be Barred From Getting Reward

FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. – The U.S. Forest Service is reviewing whether an eastern Arizona ranger whose tip led to the capture of two of the most wanted fugitives in America can receive $27,500 in reward money under the agency's ethics guidelines.

Apache Sitgreaves National Forest spokeswoman Pam Baltimore said Wednesday local forest officials would like to see the ranger get the money. But she said tentative word from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which oversees the Forest Service, is that he cannot.

She didn't know what the department's reasoning might be, but said ethics guidelines generally prevent forest employees from receiving gifts over $25.

"If it's a negative response from them as far as federal policy dictates, there's nothing we can do," Baltimore said. She added the ranger wishes to remain anonymous.

The U.S. Marshals Service and the operator of a privately run prison had offered a combined $40,000 for information leading to the arrest of three inmates who escaped from the state prison in Kingman on July 30.



One of the convicts was arrested Aug. 1 in western Colorado after an early morning shootout with police.

Two people who provided information that led to the arrest of the second inmate a week later in Wyoming have split $12,500 of the reward money, said Fidencio Rivera, chief deputy U.S. marshal for Arizona.

Rivera said the Marshals Service is waiting for a determination on whether the Arizona forest ranger is eligible for the remaining $27,500 in the capture of John McCluskey and Casslyn Welch, the alleged accomplice.

The Arizona Republic reported earlier Wednesday that the reward was in question.

The fugitives' trail had gone cold when the ranger was investigating what appeared to be an unattended campfire in the Apache Sitgreaves forest on Aug. 19. He noticed a beat-up Nissan Sentra backed suspiciously in the trees and had a brief conversation with Mccluskey, who appeared nervous and fidgety.

The ranger took down the car's New Mexico license plate and called it in to authorities, who determined it was stolen around the time an Oklahoma couple was killed in New Mexico. Authorities there had said McCluskey, Welch and another of the inmates were linked to the killings, and they later were charged in the deaths.

A SWAT team swarmed the campsite and arrested Welch and McCluskey. The Apache County Sheriff's Office says McCluskey told authorities he should have killed the forest ranger when he had the chance.

The Forest Service hailed the ranger as a hero but withheld his name, saying it believed he was simply doing his job. The agency also said that for safety reasons, the ranger did not want to be in the media spotlight.

The local sheriff's office honored a request from the Forest Service to withhold the ranger's name.

Baltimore said the USDA's Ethics Office could make a determination on the reward as soon as Thursday.

"We're not trying to prevent, from the Forest Service standpoint, our employee getting it," she said. "It's just a fact of life that that's who we work for, and policies are in place."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/01...itives-reward/ ]]> General Chat Justin Case http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13323 http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13322&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 04:18:23 GMT http://www.adn.com/2010/09/01/1435446/monster-pumpkin-sets-new-state.html New record for survival pumpkin.........pie http://www.adn.com/2010/09/01/143544...new-state.html

New record for survival pumpkin.........pie ]]> General Chat Sourdough http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13322 http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13321&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 01:47:00 GMT Nice forum.

I live in southern NJ and most of my adventuring nowadays is done on the saddle of my Russian sidecar motorcycle. It's a Ural. With 2WD and a reverse gear. No machine gun, though. I pack all I need and camp my way there and back. This August I went 2100 miles touring the back roads, dirt roads and some trails of New England. Last year it was the Great Smokey Mountains.

Scouts, military service (USAF), USAF winter survival training in Fairbanks AK, camping since I was a kid, backpacking a bit, canoe trips, offshore sailing, coastal sailing, 4x4 offroading, enduro racing, and hitchiking as a kid are all part of my past experiences.

I trapped as a kid, hunted small game (but don't remember how to skin what I kill), I can fish and clean and cook what I catch, and I can recognize which kind of fruit is growing in a farmer's orchard.

I can build a fire using any combinations of trioxane, magnesium, matches, dryer lint, Bic lighters, flint and steel, birch bark, arcing of a battery, polished bottom of a Coke can, magnifying glass, and yes, even two sticks.

I currently run my own business selling photo ID card systems. As soon as I hit the lottery, though, I will be moving to TN in a house I'll build with solar power, a french fry oil powered generator in the barn, some fruit trees out back, black raspberry bushes down by the road, a large barn and perhaps a still back up the holler a bit...

A man can dream, can't he? ]]> Introductions JerseyBlues http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13321 http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13320&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:06:50 GMT I have decided to BBQ a couple racks of baby back ribs over labor day weekend, I have never cooked baby backs before, Not sure if i should... I have decided to BBQ a couple racks of baby back ribs over labor day weekend, I have never cooked baby backs before, Not sure if i should boil/bake a bit before throwing on the grill :blushing: anyone have any tips for me ?? :) ]]> Recipes Only Justin Case http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13320 http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13319&goto=newpost Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:26:03 GMT So whats everyone doing this labor day weekend? Camping, BBQ, Preparing for fall/winter, resting? So whats everyone doing this labor day weekend?
Camping, BBQ, Preparing for fall/winter, resting? ]]> General Chat huntermj http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13319 http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13318&goto=newpost Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:22:44 GMT What's up with this?Just heard it on the radio.


"DEVELOPING: Police in Maryland are responding to a possible hostage situation after reports that a man with a handgun entered the Discovery Channel headquarters building in Silver Spring and fired one shot.

A Discovery employee reportedly told ABC News that the building, located in suburban Washington, D.C., was on lockdown. The employee also said she thought she had heard five or six gunshots." ]]> General Chat letslearntogether47 http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13318 http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13316&goto=newpost Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:46:47 GMT Even though I have been in this field (subject of article ) for a long time, I am disturbed by this. All of you youngins out in the forum world... Even though I have been in this field (subject of article ) for a long time, I am disturbed by this. All of you youngins out in the forum world should read and heed this if you have any aspiration of getting a job doing anything with the government (or its contractor community).

Cyber Vetting for Security Clearances
Posted by William Henderson on 23 Aug 2010 at 12:38 pm The Electronic Freedom Foundation (EFF) recently obtained information under the Freedom of Information Act regarding a June 2009 report of a study sponsored by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) on the use of Cyber Vetting for security clearance purposes. The study involved 349 test cases of intelligence agency applicants who consented to participating in the study and found “adverse information” on 28% of the cases. Adverse information was defined as:
Deliberate and overly descriptive posting of personal and/or work related information on public forums. This includes information about the subject’s specific work assignment, including listing descriptive information about colleagues and/or work site. Adverse classifications were also applied when references were found indicating illegal drug use or pictures appearing to show the subject engaged in illegal drug use.”
ODNI indicated that this was not a detailed study and that it would not be used to suggest modifications to existing investigative standards. “It is simply an initial approach to increase our knowledge and awareness of what types of information are posted in these sites so that educated decisions can be made regarding any future research. . . . If the results of the survey are suggestive and justify further work, the [ODNI] Special Security Center will commence design of a formal research project which will include thorough legal vetting.”
The study recommended the use of internet research, including media, blog, social networking, and professional networking sites as an adjunct to standard security clearance investigations.
Shortly after the statement of work for this study was issue in June 2008, ODNI decided more comprehensive studies were needed. In late summer 2008 ODNI issued RFPs for 2 additional studies with a total price of about $800,000. EFF is pursuing other documents related to the governments use of the internet for investigative purposes and may possibly obtain a copy of the two later studies.
ODNI has stated that:
From the perspective of personnel security, cyber-behavior represents an emerging area of behavior that should be considered as an important part of the adjudication process for granting security clearances for personnel working in national security positions. To address these challenges, adjudication policies must be modernized to incorporate a better understanding of the type and frequency of personnel IT activities. This necessitates identifying which specific cyber-behaviors are normative, acceptable, or favorable as well as identifying those that may be associated with risky or problematic cyber behavior within the workplace. ]]> General Chat Pal334 http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13316