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Pal334
11-04-2009, 12:43 PM
Anti-Gun Senator Shoots Intruder
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/national/article/74-year-old_n.c._state_senator_shoots_wounds_intruder_at_h is_home/287987/P10/

Aug 24, 2009
Long time Anti-Gun Advocate State Senator R.C. Soles, 74,
shot one of two intruders at his home just outside Tabor
City, N.C.. about 5 p.m. Sunday, the prosecutor for the
politician's home county said.

The victim, Kyle Blackburn, was taken to a South Carolina hospital,
but the injuries were not reported to be life-threatening, according
to Rex Gore, district attorney for Columbus, Bladen and
Brunswick counties.
The State Bureau of Investigation and Columbus County Sheriff's
Department are investigating the shooting, Gore said. Soles,
who was not arrested, declined to discuss the incident Sunday evening.

The Senator, who has made a career of being against gun ownership
for the general public, didn't hesitate to defend himself with his own
gun when he believed he was in immediate danger and he was the victim..

In typical hypocritical liberal fashion, the "Do As I Say And Not As I Do"
Anti-Gun Activist Lawmaker picked up his gun and took action
in what apparently was a self-defense shooting. Why hypocritical you
may ask? It is because his long legislative record shows that the
actions that he took to protect his family, his own response to a
dangerous life threatening situation, are actions that he feels ordinary
citizens should not have if they were faced with an identical situation.

It has prompted some to ask if the Senator believes his life and
personal safety are far more valuable than yours or mine..
But, this is to be expected from those who believe they can run our
lives, manage our money, raise our kids, and protect our families
better than we can.

finallyME
11-04-2009, 02:36 PM
What will make it more ironic is if the guy he shot and didn't kill comes back and sues him.

And they say conservatives are elitist.

rebel
11-04-2009, 02:58 PM
Thanks PAL. I like it.

SARKY
11-04-2009, 04:35 PM
I'm still sharpening my pitchfork and preping my torch, I also have hot tar and feathers ready ! Does anyone have a telephone pole they can spare?

NightShade
11-04-2009, 05:24 PM
Thanks!.... Good post!

2dumb2kwit
11-04-2009, 05:58 PM
I'm still sharpening my pitchfork and preping my torch, I also have hot tar and feathers ready ! Does anyone have a telephone pole they can spare?

I can get us one!

(We use poles, backed up with railroad ties, for our backstop. We keep spares.):innocent:

owl_girl
11-04-2009, 06:07 PM
gun control... yep, i always control the gun im holding.

Pal334
11-04-2009, 06:16 PM
gun control... yep, i always control the gun im holding.

As John Wayne said "Windage and elevation Ma'am,windage and elevation":clap:

Stony
11-04-2009, 06:29 PM
this is a prime example of socialist hypocratism.
however, there is merrit in gun control.

2dumb2kwit
11-04-2009, 06:38 PM
however, there is merrit in gun control.

Yep....If you are going to us one, you need to be in control of it.

trax
11-04-2009, 07:44 PM
gun control=hit what you're shooting at.

Thanks for the OP, by the way, life's little ironies huh?

Ole WV Coot
11-04-2009, 07:48 PM
Kinda typical elitist politician who does what he wants and knows what's correct for everyone else. Ignorance is no excuse for stupidity yet politicians prove me wrong every day.

Rick
11-04-2009, 09:08 PM
Does anyone have a telephone pole they can spare?

Sorry, I'm fresh out. I do have a rail if that will help. It heads straight out of town.

COWBOYSURVIVAL
11-04-2009, 09:18 PM
He should be required to donate his guns for cash!

tacticalguy
11-04-2009, 11:34 PM
Gun control? i dont know? when im shooting it looks a little something like this.

:m107::jango::rambo::gunsmilie::gun_bandana:

Rick
11-04-2009, 11:55 PM
You guys have guns?! All mine got stolen. I guess I didn't have very good gun control. (sigh)

Oh, yeah. They took all the ammo, too.

Ken
11-05-2009, 12:39 AM
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rma/lowres/rman1417l.jpg

Ken
11-05-2009, 12:40 AM
http://buelahman.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/hypocrite.jpg

Boker
11-05-2009, 01:38 AM
I know nothing of this man, but could it be that his constituents are anti-gun and he is doing his job as their representative to express their views despite his personal feelings?

2dumb2kwit
11-05-2009, 01:42 AM
http://buelahman.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/hypocrite.jpg

If I bite my tongue any harder, it's gonna bleed.:innocent:

NightShade
11-05-2009, 01:45 AM
I know nothing of this man, but could it be that his constituents are anti-gun and he is doing his job as their representative to express their views despite his personal feelings?

his job is to what he feels is "the right thing".... if his constituents don't like it, they can vote for someone else. and he thinks being a hypocritical typical poltician is "the right thing"

Rick
11-05-2009, 12:57 PM
Not quite true. There are three schools of thought on how politicians should vote.

1. According to the true tenants of the constitution.
2. In accordance with constituents wishes. They do, after all, represent the people.
3. In accordance with their own conscience since they know the details of the legislation before them they know more than their constituents.

I'm not advocating which is correct. Just listing them.

crashdive123
11-06-2009, 12:18 AM
I know nothing of this man, but could it be that his constituents are anti-gun and he is doing his job as their representative to express their views despite his personal feelings?

While that is certainly a possibility, why not then work to ban guns just in his district?

NightShade
11-06-2009, 02:32 AM
Not quite true. There are three schools of thought on how politicians should vote.

1. According to the true tenants of the constitution.
2. In accordance with constituents wishes. They do, after all, represent the people.
3. In accordance with their own conscience since they know the details of the legislation before them they know more than their constituents.

I'm not advocating which is correct. Just listing them.

Exactly Rick!..... I was trying to get across point that there is different theories as to their "job"... You worded it perfectly!

Boker
11-06-2009, 03:08 AM
While that is certainly a possibility, why not then work to ban guns just in his district?



Because, according to the link, he believes in his rights to bear arms.

crashdive123
11-06-2009, 03:21 AM
My post was really made with my tongue planted firmly in my cheek. I am of the opinion that if an elected official that has sworn to protect the Constitution, bows to the desires of his/her constituents, his own personal desires, or the pressures from other sources - and that course that they choose violates the tenants that they were sworn to uphold - they should be removed from office.

Boker
11-06-2009, 04:13 AM
Personally, I think we should run the anti-gun owners out of the country. We have the guns. What they gonna do? Throw rocks from just over the Canadian/Mexican border?


:)

rwc1969
11-06-2009, 04:20 AM
They work under a different set of "laws?" than us. They break their own rules!


...and then punish us for doin less.

LostOutrider
11-07-2009, 11:42 AM
"Gun control" is not the same thing as "anti-gun." I know that's a little complex for most wing-nuts (whichever side the wing is on) to get their head around, and the shouting heads don't want you to worry too much about things like details. Much easier to get the pitchfork crowd marching in lock-step if the issue is kept simple and dichotomous.

Sure, the guy is a scumbag if he's spent his career pushing anti-gun legislation for the 'common folk' then pulls a Cheney on some intruders. Still, that doesn't make gun control bad. I'm for automobile control and regulation, but I'm not a hypocrite for having two cars. I have firearms of my own and am a solid backer of CCW permits, but don't think unregulated ownership of assault rifles is a good idea. Booga! booga! Socialism! Rar!

crashdive123
11-07-2009, 12:04 PM
but don't think unregulated ownership of assault rifles is a good idea.!

How do you define assault rifle?

canid
11-07-2009, 12:53 PM
how about we define assault rifle as any individual rifle with which an actual assault has been committed, and ban those.

i'd be fine with that.

FVR
11-07-2009, 02:31 PM
I am always amazed at those who consider an assault rifle or weapon any diff. from any other firearm. They are both designed to kill. One just allows you to waste more ammo missing.

I don't own assault weapons anymore. I also don't own handguns as I have children and it's just not worth any risks. No matter what.

I'm down to muzzleloaders and shotguns. That being said, I don't give a rats arse what you own as long as you are a law abiding citizen. Well, I have my reservations with the guy next door who owns a basooka and a tank..........but hey, nice friend to have in a jam. LOL...only kidding about the next door neighbor Big Brother.

You do what you do to survive. If it's a single shot shotgun, knife, bat, etc or an AR-15 with a 30 round clip. Name of the game is to survive.

LostOutrider
11-07-2009, 04:58 PM
How do you define assault rifle?

I'm sure you could google up plenty of definitions to agree with or not, crash, without me giving you one to play with.

crashdive123
11-07-2009, 11:00 PM
I'm sure you could google up plenty of definitions to agree with or not, crash, without me giving you one to play with.

You're the one that brought it up. You must have some idea what you meant and why. Just responding to your post, but if you think it's all about playing - have a nice day.

oldsoldier
11-07-2009, 11:14 PM
I'm still sharpening my pitchfork and preping my torch, I also have hot tar and feathers ready ! Does anyone have a telephone pole they can spare?

I've got 2 30' ones that the utility company gave me when the put in some new metal ones this spring. I'll donate both.

2dumb2kwit
11-08-2009, 12:12 AM
how about we define assault rifle as any individual rifle with which an actual assault has been committed, and ban those.

i'd be fine with that.

Well said.
I was thinking of banning all guns that have commited crimes, without a criminal, being in control of it.

oneraindog
11-08-2009, 01:22 AM
"well i was going to use my gun to kill someone today but gosh they just passed this NEW law that says i cant do that with the gun i have and i cant get another one. guess ill just have to use a machete. THANKS NEW LAWS!"

sgtdraino
11-08-2009, 06:13 AM
Long time Anti-Gun Advocate State Senator R.C. Soles, 74,
shot one of two intruders at his home just outside Tabor
City, N.C.. about 5 p.m. Sunday, the prosecutor for the
politician's home county said.

The victim, Kyle Blackburn, was taken to a South Carolina hospital,

Wow. He shot the guy in NC, but they took the guy all the way into South Carolina for treatment???

;)

Pal334
11-08-2009, 09:57 AM
Wow. He shot the guy in NC, but they took the guy all the way into South Carolina for treatment???

;)

Only the best for perps :)

Apparently it is right near Myrtle Beach SC, may explain the states

LostOutrider
11-08-2009, 01:15 PM
You're the one that brought it up. You must have some idea what you meant and why. Just responding to your post, but if you think it's all about playing - have a nice day.

Ahh, easy enough to mistake me stating my belief as a desire or challenge for you to change yours. If you think that random bits of text posted on an internet message forum in support or opposition to such an issue counts as any more significance than play - then I'll take your nice day and raise you a pleasant evening.

2dumb2kwit
11-08-2009, 02:30 PM
Ahh, easy enough to mistake me stating my belief as a desire or challenge for you to change yours. If you think that random bits of text posted on an internet message forum in support or opposition to such an issue counts as any more significance than play - then I'll take your nice day and raise you a pleasant evening.

You know......some people consider it adult conversation.
(I guess it depends on the company you keep.)

LostOutrider
11-08-2009, 03:14 PM
You know......some people consider it adult conversation.
(I guess it depends on the company you keep.)

Then, 2d, I'm positively a-tingle with anticipation of what adult conversation you will eventually decide to grace us with.

2dumb2kwit
11-08-2009, 03:44 PM
Then, 2d, I'm positively a-tingle with anticipation of what adult conversation you will eventually decide to grace us with.

Hey, I didn't say that I was one of them! LOL:lol::lol::lol:

LostOutrider
11-08-2009, 03:55 PM
:eyepoke:

When am I gonna learn?

2dumb2kwit
11-08-2009, 04:33 PM
:eyepoke:

When am I gonna learn?

Ummm......maybe when you open your eyes! Snicker, snicker :fisticuffs:

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