what to do?

[thunderson5]

im a 44 year old disabled man.ive posted on here before and i know this forum is for survival.well this is kind of about survival.i need some suggestions on what i can do or what chance i might have in beating this.a friend of mine who has a small ranch in roswell n.m. let me park my camper on his property and said i could stay as long as i like.im hooked up to septic and have electricity.after living here a whole year the county said i couldnt live here anymore,that my camper is to small to live in,its 18f.and its just me and my dog who live in it.and has a bathroom with shower and a stove and kitchen sink.he said he had got some complaints i guess from some city people or whoever,he made it sound like whoever it was is real important.my yard is clean,the weeds are a little tall but not to bad yet.i mainly stay inside and dont bother anybody and hardly ever go into town except for groceries.what can i do about this, please sombody,help!!i get 682.00 a month,and whats the average rent,good luck for me!i will be homeless if im forced to move,becuase i cannot afford to live anywhere else.how does that possibly help anyone.:cold:

[your_comforting_company]

seems like he could write up some reciepts like you pay lot rent and the whole thing should go away. it's not uncommon down here for someone to rent a lot and live in their camper until they get ready to leave or build. My neighbor lends his camper regularly to friends and family on a lot he owns down by the lake and there never seems to be any problem. A fella I used to work with actually lives in a camper in his own yard and has done so for 10+ years with no problems from the county.
perhaps if they thought you were paying rent they might look on it more lightly. Ken would be the one who could help you most as he's the wolf of the forum ;)

[crashdive123]

Not sure that I understand the laws that they are trying to use to evict you. As YCC said, Ken may be able to offer some advice. He has offered in the past to offer advice where he can - you may want to send him a PM.

[nell67]

looks like they forbid the use of travel trailers and RV's for dwellings for extended periods of time,without a special use variance?


http://www.roswell-usa.com/city/ordinances/1227%20zoning/article20.html

[az51]

I'm a land use planner and deal with questions like this everyday. Are you sure that a complaint has been issued? If so, there should be a paper copy somewhere that will tell you exactly what the issue is.

Based on what you said in the note, it doesn't sound like its an issue that would be addressed by a Variance . That's a process that only adjusts property standards like lot coverage, fence heights, the set back from property lines, the height of a building, etc...it would not be used to address a use on the property like an out building or additional residential dwelling. I don't have the zoning code for the area but if I had to I'd guess the issue most likely has to do with more than one residence on a single lot. Again, without the code I cant tell if that would be addressed by a Special Use Permit (some times called a Conditional Use Permit) or if you would need to Rezone the property. In either case that's not a process for the faint of heart ...it requires public hearings, is costly and a pain to boot.

First, I would make sure there really is a problem. Again, if there is an code driven issue with the property the owner has either been issued a "Warning" or a "Formal Citation"...in either case you should be able to see it and find out exactly what the problem is. Once you have found out the problem try to work out something with the City Inspector. You might be surprised. Its been my experience that most of them are pretty good guys just trying to get the job done. They usually will work with you if they can and don't want to be jerks. If something cant be work out, you might want to get in contact with a local member of the New Mexico Association of Planners. Every state has a origination for Planning Professionals and they sometimes help out when someone needs help working through the system. They should be listed in the phone book or you might try to get in touch with them on line.

One last point...and I don't mean to insult the guy that has been nice enough to offer you a place to stay, but is there a chance the owner just doesn't want to tell you that he would like you to move and he is throwing this out so as not to appear to be the bad guy? I ask that because if there was a citation issued you would have seen the inspectors on the property and they would have come to you first. Again, I mean no disrespect to the owner, but it seems a little strange the way he has laid it out for you.

Hope this helps...let us know what happens. Sorry that its hit you like this

[Old GI]

az51: Super answer. Although I wasn't in planning, I worked for a FL county. They had a very similar ordinance. Although, it was selectively inforced (yes, I know that's hard to believe) usually County Commissioner driven.

[thunderson5]

well it looks like im going to get a break,the county is going to turn a blind eye and if no one else complains i should atleast be alright for a while.atleast it will buy some time to come up with other alternitives.

[Ken]

Hey, T5, I just got your message.

The law isn't entirely clear on the matter, and there are no reported cases specifically on point. However, you can probably frame a solid action and at least buy yourself a few years time, or even achieve a permanent solution, by bringing (or threatening) an action under the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Federal case law suggests that the prohibitions set forth in ADA extend to local zoning matters. Take a close look at this Amicus Curiae Brief filed by the United tates Department of Justice in this New Hampshire Federal District Court case: http://www.ada.gov/briefs/laconia1br.doc

Here's another good read on the topic: http://books.google.com/books?id=56mXKsGMixUC&pg=PA297&lpg=PA297&dq=zoning+americans+with+disabilities+act&source=bl&ots=uChdF5c9_q&sig=ZN2SIMWXepUW0VrlmbliJ57PN38&hl=en&ei=k_XgSo7TMZKPtgeF7ZnfDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBQQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=zoning%20americans%20with%20disabilities%20act&f=false

Your last post notes that you're okay for the time being - let me know if things change. It's probably easier to talk on the phone rather than by PM. Just PM me and we can exchange phone numbers.

And Nell? Nice research skills there. Ever think about working as a paralegal?

[NCO]

I suppose US has pretty screwed up social security networks... I mean shouldn't government provide you housing and just enough money to buy food?.. I don't know the rent rate of food prizes there, but I live here with 600e/month with rent of 400e/month.. I have 36m2 home. Just fine for me. There is nothing similar there? Social Security Office? Anything?

[nell67]

Hey, T5, I just got your message.

The law isn't entirely clear on the matter, and there are no reported cases specifically on point. However, you can probably frame a solid action and at least buy yourself a few years time, or even achieve a permanent solution, by bringing (or threatening) an action under the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Federal case law suggests that the prohibitions set forth in ADA extend to local zoning matters. Take a close look at this Amicus Curiae Brief filed by the United tates Department of Justice in this New Hampshire Federal District Court case: http://www.ada.gov/briefs/laconia1br.doc

Here's another good read on the topic: http://books.google.com/books?id=56mXKsGMixUC&pg=PA297&lpg=PA297&dq=zoning+americans+with+disabilities+act&source=bl&ots=uChdF5c9_q&sig=ZN2SIMWXepUW0VrlmbliJ57PN38&hl=en&ei=k_XgSo7TMZKPtgeF7ZnfDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBQQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=zoning%20americans%20with%20disabilities%20act&f=false

Your last post notes that you're okay for the time being - let me know if things change. It's probably easier to talk on the phone rather than by PM. Just PM me and we can exchange phone numbers.

And Nell? Nice research skills there. Ever think about working as a paralegal?
Thought about it a time or two,you hiring??LOL,but then I'd have to dress up,wouldnt I???

[thunderson5]

thank you everybody for all the info you gave me.i live alone and the fact that you cared enough about basicly a complete stranger really means alot to me.and i must say it kind of choked me up.thanks again,i will never forget your kindness,and a special thanks to ken for your info i was not aware those laws for disabled people were out there,and if they give me anymore problems i will be intouch,thunderson:)

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