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2dumb2kwit
09-28-2009, 12:32 PM
Wow....if you forget to cross your t's or dot your I's, they just take your stuff.


Toronto police have seized almost 400 firearms with lapsed registrations in a six-month push aimed at reducing the number of guns on the city's streets.

In March, officers began soliciting people who owned firearms once registered across the city as part of what they call the Safe City Project. Many of those who had to surrender their firearms had either let their registrations lapse, or had stashed their guns improperly under beds or in closets.


The Firearms Act stipulates guns must be stored in a secure place or be locked so that they are inoperable.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/09/22/guns-toronto-seized-police523.html?ref=rss

crashdive123
09-28-2009, 03:15 PM
It is my belief that the first step towards gun confiscation is gun registration.

SARKY
09-28-2009, 03:44 PM
It's comming here! to a city or town near you!!!

crashdive123
09-28-2009, 03:53 PM
You're just dying to break out the pitchforks and torches are'nt you? OK, OK - I'll clean mine up so it's ready.

Ken
09-28-2009, 06:39 PM
I really wish that ALL OF MY GUNS hadn't been stolen........ :innocent:

canid
09-28-2009, 06:50 PM
yeah; that's why i don't own any anymore...

canid
09-28-2009, 06:52 PM
in all realism though, you ever try to file a theft report for dozens of guns you don't even have serial numbers for? my father did once.

it was in texas though. you can't be expected to remember what you bought at a given gun show, and they have them once per month where he was at.

crashdive123
09-28-2009, 06:52 PM
Must be something going around. Seems that all forum members lost their guns and ammunition recently. Go figure.

2dumb2kwit
09-28-2009, 06:55 PM
Must be something going around. Seems that all forum members lost their guns and ammunition recently. Go figure.

Just because the water is calm, doesn't mean that a canoe can't tip over!:sneaky2:

canid
09-28-2009, 06:56 PM
haha.

seriously, my dad actually got ripped off. this was about 10 years ago i think. the neighbors didn't think there was anything wrong about several people in a van pulling up to the house while he was at work, forcing the door and loding the van up with his life-time's collection. they diceded to call the police when they left though, because they where speeding.

red lake
09-28-2009, 08:55 PM
I live in Canada

I may or may not own firearms

I am required to register any owned firearms.

I am free to buy as many firearms as I wish

I am required to use trigger locks or some other means to lock out the gun. This is to prevent accidental discharge, like with my kids. Not really high security enough to protect from criminals.

I have no fear of my guns being taken by the government.

If I get into trouble with the law I will justifiably and possibly only temporarily lose possession of my guns.

Don't let facts get in the way of your opinions.

2dumb2kwit
09-28-2009, 09:12 PM
I live in Canada

I may or may not own firearms

I am required to register any owned firearms.

I am free to buy as many firearms as I wish

I am required to use trigger locks or some other means to lock out the gun. This is to prevent accidental discharge, like with my kids. Not really high security enough to protect from criminals.

I have no fear of my guns being taken by the government.

If I get into trouble with the law I will justifiably and possibly only temporarily lose possession of my guns.

Don't let facts get in the way of your opinions.

So, the things in that article are lies?

canid
09-28-2009, 09:19 PM
i will never, unless by my own choice justifiably lose possession of my firearms. i'm not Canadian, but i think people from many nations will know how i feel about the matter.

i'm a responsible firearm owner/user, and i'm legal. i would not want to give that up.

rwc1969
09-28-2009, 09:28 PM
It's comming here! to a city or town near you!!!

all in due time. until then... :jango: :rockon: :m107:

oldsoldier
09-29-2009, 06:42 PM
It is my belief that the first step towards gun confiscation is gun registration.

The second step... The first step in controling the people is taking away the means to defend themselves and their rights. IMO

Rick
09-29-2009, 07:47 PM
Have you ever been to Quebec? They don't even know how to speak up there. It's all "Oui, nous sommes des survivants. Nous aimons nos pistolets." How can you expect folks to trust them when they can't even understand them? I'd be checking their freezers if I lived up there, too. Learn the language for gosh sakes!

2dumb2kwit
09-29-2009, 10:22 PM
Have you ever been to Quebec? They don't even know how to speak up there. It's all "Oui, nous sommes des survivants. Nous aimons nos pistolets." How can you expect folks to trust them when they can't even understand them? I'd be checking their freezers if I lived up there, too. Learn the language for gosh sakes!

HaHaHa....come to think of it, I was arrested for smuggling, in Quebec.:blushing: (Funny story...kinda.)

Ken
09-29-2009, 10:28 PM
HaHaHa....come to think of it, I was arrested for smuggling, in Quebec.:blushing: (Funny story...kinda.)

As soon as I saw your beedy eyes I knew you were a criminal! :sneaky2:

The only thing to do to international criminals like you is to BAN THEM and then DEPORT THEM to someplace like Lagos, Nigeria.

crashdive123
09-29-2009, 10:30 PM
As soon as I saw your beedy eyes I knew you were a criminal! :sneaky2:

The only thing to do to international criminals like you is to BAN THEM and then DEPORT THEM to a someplace like Lagos, Nigeria.

Oh sure. Then before you know it we'll all be getting emails from him telling us about this rich uncle that left him all this money. All we have to do is give him access to our bank accounts and we'll all be rich.

Ken
09-29-2009, 10:36 PM
Oh sure. Then before you know it we'll all be getting emails from him telling us about this rich uncle that left him all this money. All we have to do is give him access to our bank accounts and we'll all be rich.

I had a BLAST with one of those clowns a couple of years back. He musta' gone to the Lagos Western Union at least 10 times before he realized I was scamming him. :innocent:

2dumb2kwit
09-29-2009, 10:37 PM
As soon as I saw your beedy eyes I knew you were a criminal! :sneaky2:

The only thing to do to international criminals like you is to BAN THEM and then DEPORT THEM to someplace like Lagos, Nigeria.

LOL...No need for all that.

Way back when.....(Late 80's) I drove trucks, long distance. I got stopped for a random D.O.T. (or what ever they call it, up there.) check. My permit to be in Canada was expired. They said that meant that I was "illegally transporting goods". I didn't have enough cash, to pay the fine, so I was under arrest, until the company that I was driving for, wired me the money to pay it.:blushing:

crashdive123
09-29-2009, 10:39 PM
There was a story on the news a while back where a guy played along, convinced the scammer that he wanted to help, actually got the idiot to sent some money ($200 I think) so that he could clear up some kind of hold on his account. I LMAO when I heard that.

2dumb2kwit
09-29-2009, 10:45 PM
LOL...No need for all that.

Way back when.....(Late 80's) I drove trucks, long distance. I got stopped for a random D.O.T. (or what ever they call it, up there.) check. My permit to be in Canada was expired. They said that meant that I was "illegally transporting goods". I didn't have enough cash, to pay the fine, so I was under arrest, until the company that I was driving for, wired me the money to pay it.:blushing:


Come to think of it.....it's probably a good thing, that when they were looking around, in my truck, they didn't find my gun! LOL:clap:

Ken
09-29-2009, 10:46 PM
LOL...No need for all that.

Way back when.....(Late 80's) I drove trucks, long distance. I got stopped for a random D.O.T. (or what ever they call it, up there.) check. My permit to be in Canada was expired. They said that meant that I was "illegally transporting goods". I didn't have enough cash, to pay the fine, so I was under arrest, until the company that I was driving for, wired me the money to pay it.:blushing:

Sounds like a felony to me........ :sneaky2:

Ken
09-29-2009, 10:54 PM
There was a story on the news a while back where a guy played along, convinced the scammer that he wanted to help, actually got the idiot to sent some money ($200 I think) so that he could clear up some kind of hold on his account. I LMAO when I heard that.

It's funny. The story is usually accompanied by pics of some slutty looking American who claims she's marooned there because her film company is holding her check for some inane reason or other. Within 3 e-mails, you're engaged to marry her. However, the e-mail writing style changes from good to barely understandable depending who's on duty in the scammer's office at the time.

I had the last one freaking out when I told "her" I had just killed my landlord to rob the money I was going to send her. As I recall, her "name" was Mary Austin. :innocent:

Tootsiepop254
09-30-2009, 12:50 AM
It's funny that they only take the guns away from the law - abiding citizens who register them. If I was going to shoot someone, you can bet I wouldn't do it with a traceable gun.
As it is, noone ever taught me how to shoot and take care of a gun (and I grew up on a cattle ranch!), even though I've always wanted to learn.

In Switzerland, everyone has a gun - and there is almost no gun crimes at all.

ClayPick
09-30-2009, 07:19 AM
I want the civilian version of the C 14 Timberwolf so badly. So far I’ve been able to talk myself out of it.

Rick
09-30-2009, 09:07 AM
http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q348/safe_zone/firefight_poster1.jpg

pocomoonskyeyes
09-30-2009, 09:57 AM
It's funny that they only take the guns away from the law - abiding citizens who register them. If I was going to shoot someone, you can bet I wouldn't do it with a traceable gun.
As it is, noone ever taught me how to shoot and take care of a gun (and I grew up on a cattle ranch!), even though I've always wanted to learn.

In Switzerland, everyone has a gun - and there is almost no gun crimes at all.

Or Kennesaw Georgia, same kinda deal....
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n15_v46/ai_15729634/

Tootsiepop254
09-30-2009, 10:20 AM
Hmm... add that to the list of places I might want to move to...

kx250kev
10-04-2009, 09:20 PM
It is my belief that the first step towards gun confiscation is gun registration.

Indeed, that is how I feel. Registration :sneaky2:

Rick
10-05-2009, 08:19 AM
Should I be worried about my car and boat?!

crashdive123
10-05-2009, 08:27 AM
Should I be worried about my car and boat?!

Yes. As soon as there is a large portion of the political class that feels you should not be able to own them. But really - since the pen is mightier than the sword - why don't we register them?:sneaky2:

Rick
10-05-2009, 08:30 AM
Why don't we just register that class of people? It won't be long before the government confiscates THEM and the problem will be solved! :innocent:

crashdive123
10-05-2009, 08:34 AM
Pitchforks and torches?

Rick
10-05-2009, 08:35 AM
We could just sprinkle them with Wet Fire Tinder. They'd head for the nearest pond but it won't do any good.

ClayPick
10-05-2009, 03:46 PM
Here's a lack of gun control.:)

Man charged after ATV driver shot

By The Canadian Press
Mon. Oct 5 - 10:29 AM

SHELBURNE — RCMP in southwestern Nova Scotia say a man is facing charges after the driver of an ATV was shot over the weekend.

Michael Goulden, 49, of Carleton Village, near Shelburne, is charged with assault with a weapon, assault causing bodily harm, careless use of a firearm and pointing a firearm.

Police say the 28-year-old driver of the all-terrain vehicle was shot in the back with a 12-gauge shotgun.

Police say two ATVs were allegedly being driven in a reckless manner when a man fired two rounds from a gun.

The victim was treated in hospital and released.

Police say they have also seized a total of 43 firearms and a large quantity of ammunition.

crashdive123
10-05-2009, 03:53 PM
That's just a criminal act and nothing to do with gun control IMO.

Rick
10-05-2009, 04:17 PM
I don't see what one has to do with the other. Sorry.

ClayPick
10-05-2009, 04:20 PM
More a lack of control on Michael Goulden’s part. Gun registration and the ongoing amnesties are a nightmare. I can only guess at the amount of folks that just never bothered with it. The gun registry was backed mostly by the urban population with little regard for the rural one. Heavy opposition fell on deaf ears. There is still allot but it’s an uphill battle. I only kept two of my guns when it came in. Other than hunting season they tend to be a pain in the arse because of the laws.

2dumb2kwit
10-05-2009, 05:37 PM
Every time this gets posted, people get stirred up....but what the heck....I don't mind stirring it! LOL:innocent:

I like the way Uncle Ted explains it.:clap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCHtw6WbbnM

crashdive123
10-05-2009, 05:50 PM
Other than hunting season they tend to be a pain in the arse because of the laws.For me, it sounds like it's the other way around. Just sayin.

trax
10-05-2009, 06:17 PM
I live in Canada

I may or may not own firearms

I am required to register any owned firearms.

I am free to buy as many firearms as I wish

I am required to use trigger locks or some other means to lock out the gun. This is to prevent accidental discharge, like with my kids. Not really high security enough to protect from criminals.

I have no fear of my guns being taken by the government.

If I get into trouble with the law I will justifiably and possibly only temporarily lose possession of my guns.

Don't let facts get in the way of your opinions.

Will you stop that kind of talk? No wonder they all think we're a bunch of commies up here...yeesh!:tongue_smilie::tongue_smilie:

Born2Late
10-06-2009, 07:07 AM
I spoke about this in my very first post.All our guns have to be registered.We are allowed only 4 guns unless you are registered as a bona fide hunter,or collector.Guns for self defence must be reregistered every 5 years,hunting rifles every 10 years.We are not allowed any automatic weapons.200 rounds per calibre at one time in your posession.Locked in a gunsafe,loose all your firearm if found guilty of a violent crime...... the list goes on.Lots of people didnt want to register their firearms(Lots of older people)and surrendered them to the police.Many of these guns found their way to the streets.
A policeman was killed in the week because he gave a warning and the criminal shot him.
Law abiding people are afraid to shoot because they can loose everything.People are killed every day for cellphones and laptops.We live in a dangerous country.
Not to say it is only the fault of our firearm laws,but we are slowly being disarmed and left unable to defend ourselves or to afraid of the consequinces if we do.I envy you for owning lots of guns of different calibres.Dont let someone take that away from you.

ClayPick
10-06-2009, 07:52 AM
We don’t get any notice of expiry. If you forget to renew your free game for confiscation. Hand guns are a new level altogether. I don’t own one ........I decided to keep my first born instead. Sounds to me like they made the law from the same book.

cranky1
12-26-2009, 06:32 AM
well, i'm a canadian. i have a pile of guns. i buy sell trade on a weekly basis. are they registered? yes. do i care? no. will they conficate? who knows? who cares? it hasn't happened yet so why worry about it? new legislation is trying to illiminate the long gun
registry and i think it will probably go through. i enjoy my guns and i have no problem, so , like i said , who cares?

nell67
12-26-2009, 06:34 AM
well, i'm a canadian. i have a pile of guns. i buy sell trade on a weekly basis. are they registered? yes. do i care? no. will they conficate? who knows? who cares? it hasn't happened yet so why worry about it? new legislation is trying to illiminate the long gun
registry and i think it will probably go through. i enjoy my guns and i have no problem, so , like i said , who cares?
My bet is on you......

Stony
12-26-2009, 10:58 AM
there are a few points to consider:
the Canadian and SA gun laws are based on the old British laws, where only the Kings' men where allowed to own arms (be it a sword, long bow, chest armor....).
so there is already a culture of opression.

secondly the socialist fear of armed citizen.

SA has the worst bunch of leftwing criminals as politicians,
Canada has a large sozialist bueraucracy, often a leftwing government with above fears.
since most Canadian voters live in big cities, it is a sure vote-getter to implement stronger gun laws.

as for the us: we do need some form of federal control to curb crime.

Rick
12-26-2009, 12:16 PM
we do need some form of federal control to curb crime

I couldn't agree more. I suggest we start by utilizing the laws we have followed closely by abandoning early release programs for those that utilize a gun in the commission of a crime.

If your inference is we need additional federal laws to combat crime then by all means, let's do that. I've committed so many crimes with my legal and tracked weapons. The feds will probably show up any day now to arrest me.

And, after reviewing crime statistics for Chicago and Washington, D.C. I can understand how more stringent laws would drive down crime across the country. It's worked so well in those two locals.

What ARE you smoking?

rwc1969
12-26-2009, 12:32 PM
Well I'm not in Canada, but I get a scary feeling every time I go to purchase a firearm. Seems the wait gets longer each time. Now, I'm going to buy a .22 and actually am worried that this might be the time they say request denied.

glockcop
12-26-2009, 02:30 PM
well, i'm a canadian. i have a pile of guns. i buy sell trade on a weekly basis. are they registered? yes. do i care? no. will they conficate? who knows? who cares? it hasn't happened yet so why worry about it? new legislation is trying to illiminate the long gun
registry and i think it will probably go through. i enjoy my guns and i have no problem, so , like i said , who cares?

Sorry to tell ya, Brother but I care plenty. Don't you wonder why your Gov is so interested in what you own through forced registry. If you don't, YOU SHOULD! I am suspicious of anyone that wants to get into "MY business" especially the Government. MY GUNS ARE MY BUSINESS,... AND MINE ALONE!! Do yourself a favor...with your right hand reach up and grab your head (which contains the brain).... with your left hand reach down and grab your scrotum (which contains..oh nevermind). Now, with both hands so placed remember God gave you both for a reason. Repeat as often as necessary. Go get em Uncle Ted:boxer:! We need more like you. Best.

nell67
12-26-2009, 03:01 PM
I couldn't agree more. I suggest we start by utilizing the laws we have followed closely by abandoning early release programs for those that utilize a gun in the commission of a crime.

If you inference is we need additional federal laws to combat crime then by all means, let's do that. I've committed so many crimes with my legal and tracked weapons. The feds will probably show up any day now to arrest me.

And, after reviewing crime statistics for Chicago and Washington, D.C. I can understand how more stringent laws would drive down crime across the country. It's worked so well in those two locals.

What ARE you smoking?

I think stony and cranky are either twins seperated at birth,or siamese twins that weren't.......just depends on which one is facing the computer when the hands start typing........

2dumb2kwit
12-26-2009, 04:09 PM
with your right hand reach up and grab your head (which contains the brain).... with your left hand reach down and grab your scrotum (which contains..oh nevermind). Now, with both hands so placed remember God gave you both for a reason. Repeat as often as necessary. Go get em Uncle Ted:boxer:! We need more like you.

I vote for this, as quote of the day.:clap:

glockcop
12-26-2009, 08:29 PM
I vote for this, as quote of the day.:clap:

Thanks 2D2K. Evidently you are thinking man cut from the same yard as myself. Take care, Brother.

red lake
12-26-2009, 08:40 PM
Why should the laws in another country concern you so much? So far the people from that country have told you it doesn't bother them and they own guns, but NO! that isn't good enough. You need to insult the people of this country like we don't have a brain.

Puh-lease!

2dumb2kwit
12-26-2009, 09:00 PM
Why should the laws in another country concern you so much? So far the people from that country have told you it doesn't bother them and they own guns, but NO! that isn't good enough. You need to insult the people of this country like we don't have a brain.

Puh-lease!

I think it was more a case of insulting someone who says that they don't care about something, that we care a great deal about.

And for the record, I feel bad for the people in your country, that have brains, because I think they are controlled by liberals, that really don't impress me with theirs. I am also concerned that my country is going down that same path. It may happen, but it won't be because we didn't throw a fit. I for one, will not go quietly into that dark night.

glockcop
12-26-2009, 09:23 PM
Why should the laws in another country concern you so much? So far the people from that country have told you it doesn't bother them and they own guns, but NO! that isn't good enough. You need to insult the people of this country like we don't have a brain.

Puh-lease!

I don't care what goes on in your country. He asked "who cares" refering to gun registration. I care about that happening here. Canada is not at the top of my "things to ponder" list. If you took insult from my post, I want you to realize that was not intended. I was refering to an individual, not the populas as a whole. For the record I have family in Canada and can tell you that a head buried in the sand is a terrible sight. My in laws from Canada have told me many times that Canadian's as a whole in their experience are very jealous of Americans because of our freedoms here (not to mention better beer and four seasons). That is from the horse's mouth, not an assumption. You can keep your gun registration and we'll keep yall a little jealous :). Next time you're in New Orleans may I recommend a stop at "The Crescent City Brew House". You like my in laws won't want to leave either. First round's on me. Take care my frozen amigo:).
P.S. I also appologies for suggesting that God gave Canadian's a scrotum and contents. Easy mistake. Take it easy...just joking.

Rick
12-26-2009, 11:50 PM
a head buried in the sand is a terrible sight

Indeed it is 'cause then you're looking at ... well, it just isn't pretty.

GRIM2594
12-29-2009, 02:14 AM
Law abiding people are afraid to shoot because they can loose everything.

So if you shoot the first thief the other thief (the government) will take everything you have, instead of just a few things?

Loose a few things and possibly your life, or shoot and keep your life but possibly lose everything you have worked for in your life...

What is the world coming to...? :confused1:

Ole WV Coot
12-29-2009, 01:32 PM
I couldn't agree more. I suggest we start by utilizing the laws we have followed closely by abandoning early release programs for those that utilize a gun in the commission of a crime.

If your inference is we need additional federal laws to combat crime then by all means, let's do that. I've committed so many crimes with my legal and tracked weapons. The feds will probably show up any day now to arrest me.

And, after reviewing crime statistics for Chicago and Washington, D.C. I can understand how more stringent laws would drive down crime across the country. It's worked so well in those two locals.

What ARE you smoking?

You got it exactly right. Run for Prez and I can guarantee you this state. I know a lot of cemeteries that I can get names from.:innocent:

Huntinfool
12-29-2009, 04:05 PM
there are a few points to consider:
the Canadian and SA gun laws are based on the old British laws, where only the Kings' men where allowed to own arms (be it a sword, long bow, chest armor....).
so there is already a culture of opression.

secondly the socialist fear of armed citizen.

SA has the worst bunch of leftwing criminals as politicians,
Canada has a large sozialist bueraucracy, often a leftwing government with above fears.
since most Canadian voters live in big cities, it is a sure vote-getter to implement stronger gun laws.

as for the us: we do need some form of federal control to curb crime.

I understand why socialist fear an arm population. Eveyday I sit in front of my large screen comtemplating shooting it! :crash:

All because of the socialist crap being installed in place of our Republic. It's a wonder I still have a TV I sit a scream at it often! LOL!

I call them bold faced liars most often the present administration is full of liars starting at the top and ranging all the way down to the bottom.

~HF~