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doug1980
09-11-2009, 02:04 AM
http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/new%20camera/DSC00249.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/new%20camera/DSC00213.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/new%20camera/DSC00203.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/new%20camera/DSC00204.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/new%20camera/DSC00241.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/new%20camera/DSC00216.jpg

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/new%20camera/DSC00233.jpg

peter nap
09-11-2009, 02:20 AM
Those are interesting Doug. I'm curious as to how you determined your settings though.


The ISO is at 80 and stopped at F4 and 1/30 shutter.
It seem to work well for you, it just seems like an odd combination unless you're looking for a certain DOF.

doug1980
09-11-2009, 02:25 AM
Just playing around really. Taking lots of pics on various settings, not really good with it yet. Still learning. :)

peter nap
09-11-2009, 02:31 AM
Just playing around really. Taking lots of pics on various settings, not really good with it yet. Still learning. :)

It seems to be doing well. The Sony H20's a nice camera. If you use Photoshop, the easy way to get the effect your getting is to overexpose in the camera and then bring the exposure back in PS. That gives you a lot of options you can't get using the camera alone.

doug1980
09-11-2009, 02:35 AM
It seems to be doing well. The Sony H20's a nice camera. If you use Photoshop, the easy way to get the effect your getting is to overexpose in the camera and then bring the exposure back in PS. That gives you a lot of options you can't get using the camera alone.

You sound very knowledgable. I feel dumb. I have photoshop but use maybe 2% of all the options. And the camera well as I said I'm learning not very good with it. :winkiss: Always up for tips, tricks and knowledge. :clap:

peter nap
09-11-2009, 02:38 AM
Thi was one I took at an Open Carry Dinner on Tuesday. The light was bad and I wanted to bring out the statue in the back. I way over exposed, brought back up in PS, added fill light and a glint on the torch.

Lots of thing to play with.

http://photos.oldva.org/albums/userpics/a1.jpg

doug1980
09-11-2009, 02:40 AM
All in the details. :) Looks very good.

Ken
09-11-2009, 02:44 AM
Thi was one I took at an Open Carry Dinner on Tuesday.

Now THAT'S my kinda' place! :clap:

http://dustinsgunblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/az-scottsdale-open-carry-dinner.html

peter nap
09-11-2009, 02:52 AM
Now THAT'S my kinda' place! :clap:

http://dustinsgunblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/az-scottsdale-open-carry-dinner.html

We have small groups of gun owner that do that all over Virginia, every month Ken.
Even though Va has shall issue Concealed Handgun Permits, it's legal to open carry without any kind of permit. We like to remind the public of that. Works too.

Doug, this is what the picture should have looked like if I hadn't used that technique. I could have used a strong flash but it would have caused problems with the closer subjects.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/peternap/aaa.jpg

doug1980
09-11-2009, 02:58 AM
wow yeah big difference.

Ken
09-11-2009, 02:59 AM
We have small groups of gun owner that do that all over Virginia, every month Ken.
Even though Va has shall issue Concealed Handgun Permits, it's legal to open carry without any kind of permit. We like to remind the public of that. Works too.

My brother lives in Manassas. Nice area, and I like it even more now!

wildWoman
09-11-2009, 01:04 PM
Oh another new camera newbie :-)
I reluctantly switched to digital this summer because I need my pictures in good digital resolution for work. Ended up with a Canon Powershot G10 because a DSLR with an assortment of different lenses would have been way too expensive.
Have had it for 2 months now but half the time, I need the bloody manual to take shots. I find all the fiddly buttons and wheels to twiddle with a real big annoyance; also not sold on Photoshop etc since I don't see the point in taking crappy pictures and then sitting in front of the computer and fiddling with them. *whine* Wish sorely I could have just stuck with my good old SLR :-((

Rick
09-11-2009, 01:56 PM
Find you a Canon Powershot A570 IS. It's inexpensive and takes great pics. You won't get the close ups that Crash takes but all the pics I post are taken with it.

http://digitalelectronics4less.com/digital_camera_canon_a570.htm

wildWoman
09-11-2009, 02:44 PM
Find you a Canon Powershot A570 IS. It's inexpensive and takes great pics. You won't get the close ups that Crash takes but all the pics I post are taken with it.

http://digitalelectronics4less.com/digital_camera_canon_a570.htm

That one wouldn't work for me because I need at least 10-12 MPs for pictures to accompany magazine articles. Nice price tag on it though!

Guess I just have to spend more time with mine, get the gazillion of different functions in different settings of the different buttons into my head and become a better photographer, anyway. The camera can only do so much...it's up to the photographer to develop an eye for how to frame an interesting shot so I have to work on that, too.

peter nap
09-11-2009, 04:37 PM
That one wouldn't work for me because I need at least 10-12 MPs for pictures to accompany magazine articles. Nice price tag on it though!

Guess I just have to spend more time with mine, get the gazillion of different functions in different settings of the different buttons into my head and become a better photographer, anyway. The camera can only do so much...it's up to the photographer to develop an eye for how to frame an interesting shot so I have to work on that, too.

I'm an old film person too...but I wouldn't trade my 40D for anything. Stuff is expensive but the cameras and lense have paid for themselves a hundred times over.

You just can't make film do some of the things digital will do.

I took this one at 9:30 at night, during a now storm. The pond wasn't a big as I wanted so I cloned it.


Trying to get the glow of a forge is really tough using film...it's a snap uing digital.
http://photos.oldva.org/albums/userpics/expanded_snow2small.jpg

Trying to get the glow of a forge using film is tough. It' a snap with Digital
http://photos.oldva.org/albums/userpics/normal_smithy%7E0.jpg

It's also easy to control the depth of field in any picture

http://photos.oldva.org/albums/userpics/her1.jpg

2dumb2kwit
09-11-2009, 04:52 PM
I took this one at 9:30 at night, during a now storm.

We don't get many "now storms" down my way.:innocent:
(Gotcha!)

peter nap
09-11-2009, 04:53 PM
As far a Photoshop....I used to spend hours in the darkroom adjusting a picture, changing the exposure, develop, change F stop, develop, use my hand to lighten one area, develop....I can do the same thing in Photoshop in a few minutes
Even adjust shadow length like this one

http://photos.oldva.org/albums/userpics/fox_small.jpg

peter nap
09-11-2009, 04:56 PM
We don't get many "now storms" down my way.:innocent:
(Gotcha!)

Darn S key i sticking and driving me crazy.:online2long:

pocomoonskyeyes
09-11-2009, 05:07 PM
Peter Those are some amazing photos!!

wildWoman
09-11-2009, 05:27 PM
Wow, you really know your stuff, Peter!! Love the heron shot. Oh goody, now I know who I can ask when I'm stumped :-)))

doug1980
09-11-2009, 05:29 PM
Well looks like I got a long way to go. You done showed me up. And I thought my pics were pretty good. :(

peter nap
09-11-2009, 05:33 PM
Wow, you really know your stuff, Peter!! Love the heron shot. Oh goody, now I know who I can ask when I'm stumped :-)))

It's the subject and a little software....It help if they pose:art:

http://photos.oldva.org/albums/userpics/normal_zeuss21024%7E0.jpg

peter nap
09-11-2009, 05:36 PM
Well looks like I got a long way to go. You done showed me up. And I thought my pics were pretty good. :(

I didn't mean it to look that way Doug. I get carried away trying to show what can be done with digital. Your pictures are very good and show exactly what you were trying to show...Light and the source.
Sorry

doug1980
09-11-2009, 05:38 PM
I didn't mean it to look that way Doug. I get carried away trying to show what can be done with digital. Your pictures are very good and show exactly what you were trying to show...Light and the source.
Sorry

No No I love your pics. I'm glad you shared I need to learn. I played around today a bit more and can't figure out how to adjust the shutter speed on my camera.

doug1980
09-11-2009, 05:41 PM
The ISO is at 80 and stopped at F4 and 1/30 shutter.

I can adjust the ISO...not sure what that does though.

F4...no idea what that is.

1/30 shutter...can't adjust it.

peter nap
09-11-2009, 05:55 PM
The ISO is at 80 and stopped at F4 and 1/30 shutter.

I can adjust the ISO...not sure what that does though.

F4...no idea what that is.

1/30 shutter...can't adjust it.

The ISO i the same a film speed or ASA in a film camera.
F4 is the opening on your lens aperture
You should be able to adjust the shutter speed but only in TV mode or whatever Sony calls the shutter priority mode.

These are the specs on that one picture you took:

Make = SONY
Model = DSC-H20
Exposure Time = 1/30"
F Number = F4
Exposure Program = Manual
ISO Speed Ratings = 80
Exif Version = Version 2.21
Date Time Original = 2009-09-09 20:37:17
Date Time Digitized = 2009-09-09 20:37:17
Components Configuration = YCbcr
Compressed Bits Per Pixel = 4
Exposure Bias Value = ±0EV
Max Aperture Value = F3.51
Metering Mode = Pattern
Light Source = unknown
Flash = Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Focal Length = 18.5mm

This tells you everything that was going on in your camera when you took that picture.

Taking someone elses picture and adjusting it without permision i a serious breech of etiquette.
That's what I should have done though instead of posting my pictures. I really wasn't showing off.

Since I've already done one rude thing, I might as well and break the rules again and show what could be done with a little playing.

This is one of your pictures
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/peternap/DSC00249.jpg

This i the same picture with 30 seconds of playing with the flame.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/peternap/dou1.jpg

That's all I was trying to show.:blushing:

doug1980
09-11-2009, 05:59 PM
The ISO i the same a film speed or ASA in a film camera.
F4 is the opening on your lens aperture
You should be able to adjust the shutter speed but only in TV mode or whatever Sony calls the shutter priority mode.

These are the specs on that one picture you took:

Make = SONY
Model = DSC-H20
Exposure Time = 1/30"
F Number = F4
Exposure Program = Manual
ISO Speed Ratings = 80
Exif Version = Version 2.21
Date Time Original = 2009-09-09 20:37:17
Date Time Digitized = 2009-09-09 20:37:17
Components Configuration = YCbcr
Compressed Bits Per Pixel = 4
Exposure Bias Value = ±0EV
Max Aperture Value = F3.51
Metering Mode = Pattern
Light Source = unknown
Flash = Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Focal Length = 18.5mm

This tells you everything that was going on in your camera when you took that picture.

Taking someone elses picture and adjusting it without permision i a serious breech of etiquette.
That's what I should have done though instead of posting my pictures. I really wasn't showing off.

Since I've already done one rude thing, I might as well and break the rules again and show what could be done with a little playing.

This is one of your pictures
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/peternap/DSC00249.jpg

This i the same picture with 30 seconds of playing with the flame.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/peternap/dou1.jpg

That's all I was trying to show.:blushing:

Wow now that is talent. I don't think you were being rude at all. :) I need to learn this stuff. Your version looks waaaaay better. Teach me "great one" :clap:

P.S where did you find all the pictures specs?

pocomoonskyeyes
09-11-2009, 06:01 PM
Peter I don't think anyone thinks you were rude(I don't anyway, and I should speak for myself only). I think we are all amazed at what you have accomplished, and are eagerly trying to learn something. That my friend is the truly Amazing thing about the internet,otherwise I would be even more clueless than I was just a little while ago.

crashdive123
09-11-2009, 06:07 PM
Great pictures Peter. I love my SLR cameras, but I too am sold on digital. I went on a hike today and snapped right around 300 pictures. Can't afford to do that with film.

peter nap
09-11-2009, 06:13 PM
The picture specs are the EXIF (Exchangeable image file format )

That's information that's encoded in Digital pictures...Scary, huh.

You can read it with a lot of programs, including Photohop, but I use a shareware program called Opanda Exif 2.3

You can also erase it if you want to keep things private, using the same programs.