Fly The Flag

[Ken]

I take this opportunity to request that all United States citizens and forum members living in the United States display the American Flag on Friday, September 11, 2009. We must never forget the events of September 11, 2001, and it is our duty to remind those who may have already forgotten.

I also ask that you observe a personal moment of silence and offer a prayer for the 2,974 innocent people, military and civilian, from over 90 nations, who lost their lives to the tragic and evil acts of terrorism that took place eight years ago. Please remember the families and loved ones who survived them in your prayers.

The following sites offer guidelines and etiquette for the display of the American Flag:

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/navy_legacy_hr.asp?id=190

http://www.usa-flag-site.org/etiquette-display.shtml

[Ken]

United States Code Title 4 Chapter 1 — The Flag

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm

[canid]

sounds like a bunch of flag waving to me.

count me in.

[Pal334]

Mine has been flying 24 / 7 since 9/11. Wife kept it flying while I was gone. I consider it an honor to continue the tradition. Ihave each of the flags stored as they have been replaced.

[crashdive123]

Mine has been flying 24/7 as well. On days of importance like 9/11 I add about 20 more smaller flags around the front of my property.

[Sourdough]

24/7/365 my Large Flag is waving.

[Ole WV Coot]

I should hope everyone does and did before 9/11. I started in N. VA in the '60s when those SOBs were burning them a few miles away.

[Ken]

I keep a lighted flag flying 24/7 at my home as well. It's just sad to look at many homes and to see all the empty pole brackets left over from 2001.....

[Rick]

I actually adhere to flag protocol. I cringe at the thought of the flag getting wet. But that's just me. I've even called neighbors before to tell them their flag was getting rained on. Can't touch the ground and all that. Mine will be out provided it doesn't rain.

[Ken]

I have an "all weather flag." Flag etiquette permits use of such flags 24/7 so long as they are lighted.

[Ken]

It is improper to fly the American flag in the rain: False. The Flag Code Title 4, Chapter 1, Section 6 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode04/usc_sec_04_00000006----000-.html) specifically allows this practice if "an all weather flag is displayed." The code is silent on what an all weather flag is, but the intent sure sounds like it means a flag that is able to stand up to the conditions. Even very light weight flags can do so. They just will not do so as long as the better models.

The complete flag code text with a search function- ALOT of information here: http://www.flagguys.com/etiq.html

[Rick]

Thank you. I learned something today!

[Ken]

You're welcome, Rick. Most nylon flags meet the "all weather" criteria. I have one that flew over the United States Capitol. They can be ordered via the website of any U.S. Senator or Representative. The form looks like this:



Instructions: To complete this form, click on the form, and start typing. Please complete one form per flag requested. Make checks or money orders payable to the "Keeper of the Stationery" Cash and Credit Cards cannot be accepted at this time. Please mail form and check to: (Senator or Representative**********)


Name and Address where flag should be mailed:
Requested By: ________________________ ______________________________
Phone Number: _______________________ ______________________________
Email: ______________________________ ______________________________
Prices* for Flags flown over the Capitol:
Size Material Price Total
3 feet x 5 feet Cotton $17.30 ___________
3 feet x 5 feet Nylon $17.05 ___________
5 feet x 8 feet Cotton $28.05 ___________
5 feet x 8 feet Nylon $26.05 ___________
Total Enclosed:__________

Prices
* for Flags NOT flown over the Capitol

Size Material Price Total

3 feet x 5 feet Cotton $13.25 ___________
3 feet x 5 feet Nylon $13.00 ___________
5 feet x 8 feet Cotton $24.00 ___________
5 feet x 8 feet Nylon $22.00 ___________
Total Enclosed:__________
*Prices include shipping and handling
Desired date flag is to be flown over the Capitol or





first available:

__________________________________________________ ________________

Occasion/In Honor of: ________________________________________________
Name to be printed on the accompanying certificate:




__________________________________________________ ________________

[Rick]

I did that as well. I purchased one for each of the grandkids on the day they were born.

[Ken]

I did that as well. I purchased one for each of the grandkids on the day they were born.

That's a great gift......... :clap:

[Sourdough]

The Flag Code is just that a CODE. It is Not Law.

[Ken]

The Flag Code is just that a CODE. It is Not Law.


Uhhhh, Hope? Federal Law is referred to as "The United States Code." :innocent:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/4/ch1.html

[Rick]

Well, I really wasn't concerned about the code or law, per se. I tried to adhere to protocol out of respect for the flag.

[Ken]

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/uscode/

[finallyME]

Sure, I will fly on the 11th, even though I am taking my scouts out backpacking. I will fly the flag I received when I earned my Eagle. It was flown at the capital as well. Clinton signed the letter (you can't have everything).

I hope the same sentiment exists for December 7th. I get a little frustrated when people are supper patriotic on September 11th, but forget December 7th.

[Ken]

It is a code of behavior, there has been several failed efforts to make the Flag Code law.


Hope, it IS the law. The "Flag Code" is Federal Law.

Are you referring to "Desecration of the Flag of the United States?" They finally enacted a law on that last year:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/718/usc_sec_18_00000700----000-.html

[Sourdough]

Hope, it IS the law. The "Flag Code" is Federal Law.

Are you referring to "Desecration of the Flag of the United States?" They finally enacted a law on that last year:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/718/usc_sec_18_00000700----000-.html


But the Supreme Court has ruled that to enforce the Code would violate the, First amendment, right to Free Speech.

[Ken]

But the Supreme Court has ruled that to enforce the Code would violate the, First amendment, right to Free Speech.

I don't believe that the new law has been "tested" yet. It would be interesting to see how THIS court will interpret it.

[chiye tanka]

I keep mine on my sleeve at all times.
It's a special day for me, both sorrow and joy, mine will be flying!!!!

[crashdive123]

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Out%20And%20About/LittleTalbotIsland005.jpg

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

I see we have a great patriot and a Chevy man! Sweet!