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pocomoonskyeyes
09-09-2009, 10:40 PM
In a short walk in my neighborhood I photographed some edible plants trying to reclaim a construction site. Just thought I'd show some pics.
http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Plants/100_1429.jpg

This is the Common Sunflower Helianthus annus

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Plants/100_1430.jpg

Close shot of flower and leaves

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Plants/100_1440.jpg

Some Goldenrod

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Plants/100_1444.jpg

Sumac both are good for drinks

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Plants/100_1450.jpg

Redbud tree (Heart shaped leaves)

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Plants/100_1446.jpg

And proof that the closer to Deer season Deer DO relocate to a more urban lifestyle (Fresh tracks it rained yesterday).

crashdive123
09-09-2009, 10:43 PM
Nice pics Poco.

pocomoonskyeyes
09-09-2009, 10:46 PM
Thanks Crash they aren't as high quality as yours but better than what you find in a book(they are larger).

crashdive123
09-09-2009, 10:48 PM
What are you talking about - they look great. Have you plotted their locations?

pocomoonskyeyes
09-09-2009, 11:13 PM
yep right under my picture!feel free.

crashdive123
09-09-2009, 11:15 PM
Nah - that's for you to do if you want. I'm only plotting what I have put my eyeballs on. Just trying to encourage more people to post to the forage data base.

pocomoonskyeyes
09-09-2009, 11:23 PM
OK so how do I do it?

crashdive123
09-09-2009, 11:42 PM
Go to the data base - http://www.wildcrafting.net/ and log on using the same log on that you use here. On the menu on the left, click on browse edible plants. If it is a plant that is already in the data base (I know that sunflowers and golden rod are) scroll down to the name of the plant. Scientific names are listed. You can click on common names at the top of the page and do it that way. Click on your plant – let’s say common sun flower (Helianthus Annuus) http://www.wildcrafting.net/ Right under the picture (like my picture with the bee?) click on plot new location. Fill in the three blocks (Name – like hillside, roadside, etc. Info – like at the end of the street or some sort of description – and then in the last block you can select shared or private). Then to plot the marker you can either zoom in to the location by double clicking until you get to the spot (highest magnification that you can) and then click on Add Marker to Map – or you can click on Add Marker by GPS and then enter the coordinates in degrees, tenths, hundredths, etc. Do not use seconds. I usually take mine to at least 5 decimal places for accuracy. Then click save.

If it is a plant not in the data base, you will first need to enter it in the data base.

pocomoonskyeyes
09-10-2009, 12:05 AM
Go to the data base - http://www.wildcrafting.net/ and log on using the same log on that you use here. On the menu on the left, click on browse edible plants. If it is a plant that is already in the data base (I know that sunflowers and golden rod are) scroll down to the name of the plant. Scientific names are listed. You can click on common names at the top of the page and do it that way. Click on your plant – let’s say common sun flower (Helianthus Annuus) http://www.wildcrafting.net/ Right under the picture (like my picture with the bee?) click on plot new location. Fill in the three blocks (Name – like hillside, roadside, etc. Info – like at the end of the street or some sort of description – and then in the last block you can select shared or private). Then to plot the marker you can either zoom in to the location by double clicking until you get to the spot (highest magnification that you can) and then click on Add Marker to Map – or you can click on Add Marker by GPS and then enter the coordinates in degrees, tenths, hundredths, etc. Do not use seconds. I usually take mine to at least 5 decimal places for accuracy. Then click save.

If it is a plant not in the data base, you will first need to enter it in the data base.
Ok I stumbled through,trying it on my own. Entered all data then it said Common name is already in database, HOWEVER scientific name was different than whatever is already in database. This could be a potential problem.. Do a search for Bachelor buttons and you'll see what I mean approx.50 plants have that common name and are in different Families even, forget about species. Entirely different plants altogether. after I completed all that nothing showed,after 30 minutes of trying.

crashdive123
09-10-2009, 12:06 AM
Try your sunflower with the links I gave you since I know that one is there.

doug1980
09-10-2009, 12:13 AM
Wow looks dry there. Question though and it may be stupid...isn't sumac poisonous?

pocomoonskyeyes
09-10-2009, 12:19 AM
One sumac is poisonous three aren't.
Ok Crash the pic I tried to add still doesn't show.

crashdive123
09-10-2009, 12:23 AM
The directions I gave you were for adding locations. For the pics, you may have to resize them, as the program will not accept pictures that are too large. For pics I upload I make them 600 X 450. Let me copy yours and see what size it is.

crashdive123
09-10-2009, 12:26 AM
Poco - I just checked. Your sunflower picture is 1024 X 768, so that is probably why it won't upload. Do you have a program to resize? I use Paint.net, a free program that you can download (Rick turned me onto it).

pocomoonskyeyes
09-10-2009, 12:33 AM
Poco - I just checked. Your sunflower picture is 1024 X 768, so that is probably why it won't upload. Do you have a program to resize? I use Paint.net, a free program that you can download (Rick turned me onto it).

yeah I cut it down to half its original size, using Irfanview another freebie.

crashdive123
09-10-2009, 12:35 AM
If you resize it to 600 X450 (or smaller) it will probably take. All you need to do for the picture is download it, add a caption and save it.

crashdive123
09-10-2009, 07:16 AM
I see that you got the photo loaded and location plotted. Good job.

Rick
09-10-2009, 08:32 AM
Poco - There are step by step instructions in the Site, Quiz and Forum Feedback section:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3633

Remember that common names may be the same for different plants across the globe. What I call "sunflower" here may be an entirely different specie or genus where you live (just an example). That's why you'll see the same common name for plants but different scientific names. Hope that helps.

pocomoonskyeyes
09-10-2009, 08:37 AM
Poco - There are step by step instructions in the Site, Quiz and Forum Feedback section:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3633

Remember that common names may be the same for different plants across the globe. What I call "sunflower" here may be an entirely different specie or genus where you live (just an example). That's why you'll see the same common name for plants but different scientific names. Hope that helps.

No what happened is that it would not let me add a plant even though it had the same "Common Name" which is why I gave the example of "Bachelor Buttons" so I gave up trying to add that plant,even though the scientific name was entirely different. I kept getting the message that common name is already in the database Even Though the SCIENTIFIC name was different!!!

Rick
09-10-2009, 08:48 AM
Is Bachelor Buttons an actual example? Is that the one you had trouble with?

pocomoonskyeyes
09-10-2009, 09:12 AM
No I just used that as an example. There's something like 50 plants that have the same Common Name of Bachelor Buttons, although there are several genus and species differences among the 50. It would not let me add a plant 'cause it said "This Common Name is already in the Database" although the Scientific Name was different. So I quit trying on that plant. I haven't tried it yet but let's say I used "Pine" as a common name but I was talking about the particular variety of white pine, and slash pine had already been entered into the database as pine even though they have different scientific names.This is the problem I had.

Rick
09-10-2009, 09:13 AM
I'd like the exact name you were trying to use so I can look at it.

pocomoonskyeyes
09-10-2009, 09:35 AM
Never mind I just added it!! I was trying to add a different species of Goldenrod. Canada Goldenrod Solidago canadensis . I guess the system had a "hiccup" or I wasn't holding my mouth right or something.

NightShade
09-10-2009, 10:39 AM
Nice pics Poco!!!.... I've plotted a buch of locations but am having a hard time adding new plants......keeps saying "invalid file type". nevermind I figured out how to re-size

pocomoonskyeyes
09-10-2009, 11:04 AM
I have a question for the Mods what can be done to edit information on plants? For example Chicory Cichorium intybus is listed it says that there are no Medicinal properties,yet I have found in My "Petersons guide to Medicinal Plants and Herbs" That it DOES have medicinal qualities.

crashdive123
09-10-2009, 11:29 AM
Mods can edit plants - I'll take care of the chicory. You should be able to add the additional comments.

pocomoonskyeyes
09-10-2009, 11:50 AM
So just to make sure that I am Clear...If I find another instance I can just PM you,Rick, or Sarge and let you know and then everything will be cool right?
Who is LOGOS? Member list says they are a Super Moderator,they listed the chicory but they have no posts? A Mystery Moderator? Hmmmm, and the plot thickens.

crashdive123
09-10-2009, 12:12 PM
Yep, just let us know. You can add the comments, and we can edit it for you. As far as Logos and Mcoffey - those are the screen names of two folks that Chris had working on the database.

Icemancometh
09-10-2009, 12:59 PM
nice pics poco, the footprint makes me ready for deer season. I saw 2 nice bucks the otherday and they made me want to pull the car over.

pocomoonskyeyes
09-13-2009, 05:37 PM
I'd just add to this on I already started on the same subject...

Went on another little walk around the neighbor hood and took plenty of pics. Some of this stuff is not in the database so if anyone can type faster than me feel free to add them. Just let me know if you do and I'll add the location. That is the only reason I'm not adding them to the Database is my slow typing. It takes me 30-40 minutes for just one plant!!!The pics are located at photobucket.com in my username..pocomoonskyeyes. They are in the album Edible Plants.

Let's start out with some Chicory flowers...

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Edible%20plants/Chicoryflowers.jpg

Now for a plant that is NOT in the Database Common Greenbrier Smilax rotundifolia rootstock can be used to make a Jelly.

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Edible%20plants/Smilax.jpg

The rest are labeled in the "album". Sassafras shoot, rose hips,Red Clover

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Edible%20plants/Sassafrassprout.jpg

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Edible%20plants/Rosehips.jpg

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Edible%20plants/RedClover.jpg

pocomoonskyeyes
09-13-2009, 07:20 PM
well let me add a few more...
Bull Thistle

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Edible%20plants/Sowthistle1.jpg

Dogwood Cornus floridana

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Edible%20plants/Dogwood.jpg

Wild Grape Vitis spp.

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Edible%20plants/WildGrape.jpg

Sumac Rhus spp. any except Rhus vernix

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/pocomoonskyeyes/Edible%20plants/standofSumac.jpg

crashdive123
09-13-2009, 07:23 PM
Nice pics Poco.

pocomoonskyeyes
09-13-2009, 07:31 PM
You know one thing I like about this thread as well as the Purslane experiment? It is stuff that is all around us. We just walked in our neighborhood. If someone came out our front door and used a whistle we would've heard it.We were that close the whole time we walked around. It's not like you have to go waaaay out in the woods to find wild edibles. It's a good way to do two things - Learn Edible plants, and get some daily exercise.

rwc1969
09-14-2009, 09:52 PM
This is a great thread. Is that Goldenrod in front of the sumac? Are there look a likes to Goldenrod?

Speaking of urban forage and sunflowers, anybody ever harvest Jerusalem artichoke tubers/ roots?

I find lots of it growing along the roadsides, woods, creeks, ponds, pretty much everywhere I look. But, after digging a couple times I haven't found any tubers.

pocomoonskyeyes
09-14-2009, 10:24 PM
Yes that is Goldenrod Solidago canadensis, I am not aware of any look a likes, although I am no authority. I have never seen Jerusalem Artichoke , but then again maybe I have,as I'm not familiar with this plant. I could have been overlooking it and never even noticed it.

crashdive123
09-14-2009, 10:30 PM
Erunk has posted several times about Jerusalem Artichokes.

pocomoonskyeyes
09-14-2009, 10:42 PM
I'll have to look that up thanks for the heads up.

crashdive123
09-14-2009, 10:46 PM
Here's a couple of threads on them.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7197&highlight=jerusalem+artichoke

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4418&highlight=jerusalem+artichoke

rwc1969
09-15-2009, 09:34 AM
Thanks for the links.

canid
09-15-2009, 08:30 PM
i have a lot of wild grape where i live. the fruit is excellent [when you can find it fully ripened], though the seeds are large. i was disappointed to learn that the leaves [at least of our local species] are very bitter.

we have lots of milk thistle. purslane loves to over-run any disturbed area, as does sow thistle, dandelion and several others.

decorative plums, which vary from bitter and intensely sour to large, juicy and sweet are a common decorative tree. black walnut grows everywhere it can get a foothold and there are a great many old oaks remaining, of enourmous stature. in some areas, apple, crab apple and cherry are also popular.

the urban and suburban setting can offer a great deal of food.

we have a lot of irrigation canals here, in which the bullfrogs thrive, and along which you can find many reptiles which would otherwise have a hard time finding sanctuary in a city setting.

municipal parks often offer far greater fare.

Rick
09-15-2009, 08:37 PM
If you enjoy spices then I suggest Nasturtiums. Not only are they nice to look at but they have a great peppery taste. Totally unlike peppers because the heat is short lived. The pollen is sweet as sugar followed by a rather hot spicyness. It's fun to watch the look on kids faces when they eat it. You get a really big smile when they hit the sweetness immediately followed by a look of "what the ?". As I said, it's short lived. Flower, stems and leaves are all edible.

canid
09-15-2009, 08:51 PM
oh yeah, nasturtium is easy to overlook, but great to remember. so is miner's lettuice, which likes to grow during the wet season here along the untended sides of fences where there is good shade and taller grasses. they seem to like the humid microclimate provided by all the shade and vegetative cover.