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Rat Eater
08-17-2009, 01:32 AM
This trap is of my own, very strong and is self standing. you can set it up on solid surfaces and is much easier to set. Enjoy:cowboy:

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt334/Rat_Eater/AFrame.jpg

flandersander
08-17-2009, 02:55 AM
Looks very good. How about you fall on over to the introduction section? Let us know a little about yourself. Thanks. Its not difficult to get the top pieve to ballance on the single point?

Rat Eater
08-17-2009, 09:12 PM
I originaly desisigned this for problamatic bears around my house. later I down scaled it down for everything else.

Rick
08-17-2009, 09:18 PM
Wait. What? You made a dead fall for bears?

Skysoldier
08-17-2009, 09:31 PM
Oh, yeah!!!!!! Mean devils!!!!

Rat Eater
08-17-2009, 09:39 PM
YES the first one I made was 8' tall and used a block and tackle to raise 4 20' 24"dia logs all tied together, the lower ends were about 3 feet off the ground at the back. my guess would be 1000' pounds or so. I made four more for other people easier than digging a pit!

flandersander
08-17-2009, 09:56 PM
I guess its easier, but its also a little more likely that you're gonna get crushed, that if you dig a pit. I gotta ask, does it kill a bear?

Rat Eater
08-17-2009, 10:11 PM
Digging a pit is hard work because of the permafrost and either way you have to cut wood, one to burn down in the permafrost or make a trap and then burn it in your cabin. Killing the bear depends on what you wants to do with it, just want it dead 20 1" 5' long rebars work well then you fill the hole in, if it factors into you personel economics you shot it!

Rat Eater
08-17-2009, 10:18 PM
And you don't have to the bear out of a hole!

pocomoonskyeyes
08-17-2009, 10:19 PM
That's a nice variation on the Paiute deadfall Rat eater. I don't think I would've thought about adding another upright for sturdiness. It does seem like it would be dangerous setting one used for bears..... I wouldn't want to be under it if it slipped.

Rat Eater
08-17-2009, 10:21 PM
you don't have to be under it to set it.

Rat Eater
08-17-2009, 10:24 PM
I think I still have some pics on 35mm somewhere, I'll see if I can get them on disc at walmart and post them. But I will not post the after effect because of fish and game laws!

Rick
08-17-2009, 11:07 PM
But why even do it? That's the part I'm having trouble with.

crashdive123
08-17-2009, 11:16 PM
Red Lake posted a great video a while back. In it, Angus built a bear dead fall trap (about the 22 minute mark of the film).

Rat Eater
08-17-2009, 11:23 PM
I lived 300 miles from Anchorage in the bush, sometimes you will get a problem bear starting to hang around. They would sometimes kill my sled dogs, they will also turn your outhouse over to get some grub. Being a trapper I wanted to see if it could be done with local materials. The biggest thing I got from it was a very reliable trap for smaller critters and they could be easly set on ice or rocky terrain and hard pack ground. Also it can be built anywhere with an axe and not have to lug a 30# trap.

Rat Eater
08-17-2009, 11:27 PM
I would love to see that video, how can I find it? Thanks

Rick
08-18-2009, 07:43 AM
Got ya. I appreciate the explanation. Thanks.

crashdive123
08-18-2009, 08:28 AM
Oooops. Forgot to post the link to the video. Here it is. http://www.nfb.ca/film/survival_in_the_bush/

Ken
08-18-2009, 08:39 AM
Up past your bedtime last night? :innocent:

crashdive123
08-18-2009, 08:45 AM
Yep. Long drive.

Ole WV Coot
08-18-2009, 09:23 AM
If I COULD build a dead fall big enough to kill a bear I would save myself a lot of trouble. Just cut a willow switch and go after the critter, which I could easily do if I didn't have a bad back.

your_comforting_company
12-17-2012, 03:51 PM
I devised a similar trap using just whatever I had laying around. I think the video explains it well enough. The design is very simple.
(hopefully I linked the video correctly)
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dutch hermit
12-17-2012, 05:09 PM
Looks complicated but also very creative.. I like this idea

ClayPick
12-19-2012, 10:25 AM
Crude and efficient! It’s hard for me to not like that deadfall.

1776
12-19-2012, 04:33 PM
YES the first one I made was 8' tall and used a block and tackle to raise 4 20' 24"dia logs all tied together, the lower ends were about 3 feet off the ground at the back. my guess would be 1000' pounds or so. I made four more for other people easier than digging a pit!

Hey this looks like the solution to trapping hogs better than my wacky snare idea. Though I think I'd better practice making and using the trigger before messing around with a half ton of logs. Good ideas thanks for posting.

Mozartghost1791
01-25-2013, 01:40 PM
I like the modification of the Paiute Deadfall design... However, it might be easier to get the top piece to balance on the supports if the supports formed an 'X' and you could put the top piece between the two supports then and it couldn't slip off and accidentally release the stone. I've built a few small paiute's and I use a forked stick stuck in the ground to hold up the top piece. Much more stable than the traditional one where its all balanced on the top of one stick.

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