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wareagle69

08-12-2009, 10:15 AM

one thing that never ceases to amaze me is the fear and paranoia that folks spread around about living in the bush during a sftf scenario
one is wild edibles-fear of the unknown-enough said on that one
but what i want to focus on is the fear of others folks, we did a scene almost two years ago where the members here bugged out together, and one member and his family chose to bug out seperatley(quite fine) but the suspician and hostility was...quite frankley amusing.
in the wilds anyone that you run into will most likely be an ally not an enemy, i hardly see rovong bands of starving people running around in the bush looking in vain for you hoping you have food. naw the starving masses ill be in towns and cities where the food is stock piled en masse
i totaly beleive that anyone i do encounter in the bush(like current days) will be helpful and would probably end up shareing resources
now as we all now based on my thread "an absolute must read" at this point in time i will not bug out unless absolutly neccessary.
just my two cents worth on this topic

Rick

08-12-2009, 10:18 AM

I don't know, WE. If half the folks that say they are going to bug out to the woods actually do then you'll need a people swatter instead of a fly swatter.

wareagle69

08-12-2009, 10:22 AM

half the people, wherre are those stats at? here, well this forum certainly does not represent the entire population, even if "half" bug out, by the time i have to b/o those folks will be gone, i doubt 90percent of them are truly prepared to live in the bush full time

Rick

08-12-2009, 10:26 AM

I doubt 10% are but that's never stopped folks before. I'm on your side about paranoia. Seems it was on sale some place and I missed out.

wareagle69

08-12-2009, 10:29 AM

yes 10percent was quite liberal, i am sure out of all our members here 10 percent would still be high of those that could go out and live succussfully. i'm sure i'll get hate mail for that, but most people tend to underestimate things drastically

Rick

08-12-2009, 10:32 AM

I would like to think myself a survivor but I'd never make it in the places you, Hope, Klkak, WW, et. al. live. I don't think I would anyway. Sure don't want to try, I know that.

trax

08-12-2009, 10:50 AM

I tend to agree with WarEagle, no surprise there I'm sure. But the one thing that the parnoiacs tend to overlook or not consider in their deliberations is that when they're stumbling around out there and realizing how much trouble they're actually in, it's going to be a mighty fine and warm feeling to find another human being. Something about two of the same species forms a bond in an environment most people these days find alien.

SARKY

08-12-2009, 10:59 AM

Here is the problem, shows like "Moron vs. Wild" and "Survivorman" have made the armchair survivor think he/she can just walk out into the bush and live the life. And they are dumb enough to do it!

Pal334

08-12-2009, 11:20 AM

I agree with what you are saying.

starving masses ill be in towns and cities where the food is stock piled en masse
I would not even try to guess a percentage of folks who will sit tight, who will bug out etc. But I would hazard a guess that a significant number will try to stay in or near their towns or cities. Probably for the reasons you mentioned, food and supplies that they are familiar with. Many will not have the transportation to do anything else, nor the knowledge or equipment to “head for the hills”.

i totaly beleive that anyone i do encounter in the bush(like current days) will be helpful and would probably end up shareing resources
Those that do make it out into the hinterlands, would most likely (there are always exceptions) be folks that are a bit better prepared than the average citizen, and I would guess most would be “team players (I have no data to support that, just a hunch) and as such would be assets rather than threats.
Also, the “bad” folks would probably be so readily apparent by their mannerisms and equipment (more Ramboish would be my guess). These would likely “burn themselves” out fairly quickly.

i will not bug out unless absolutly neccessary.
In my circumstances, a total “bug out” is not in my plans, I would likely stay in place, or relocate within 100-200 miles (family locations)> My skills, though good, would ,I think be inadequate for a total “in the hills” scenario.

Stony

08-12-2009, 11:44 AM

I agree with Rick, that one would need a people swatter.

Rick

08-12-2009, 11:50 AM

Pal334

08-12-2009, 12:04 PM

I sure don't have any crystal ball but it seems like a whole lot of folks on here have said they intend to head to the woods. We've had a couple of "what would you do" threads. I guess if anyone cares they can go back and count up the responses. Either way, woods or city, there will be a good number of people looking for your help/food/whatever.

But would you think that the responses that are given on this forum are really representative of the general population? What I am trying to say, probably the majority of the forums members (and like minded folks)may in fact "bug out",since they would presumably be more prepared than the average Joe. I am just thinking that the average Joe will try to sit tight, probably due to lack of prepardeness. A final thought: I hope we never have to find out which school of thought is most accurate.

Rick

08-12-2009, 12:08 PM

You are probably correct. Most of the folks "out there" haven't a clue beyond the grocery store so they probably won't go any further than that.

Interesting side note. I was talking to a guy the other day about this subject. He said if anything happened he was going to hike to the other side of town because there was a food distribution center located there and not many folks know about it. In fact, he had made arrangements with some friends to meet up there.

Well good luck with that, I told him. He's hiking across a metropolitan city to a place that only several hundred neighbors, all the employees, their family and friends know about. He couldn't understand why I would not want to be a part of that.

trax

08-12-2009, 12:16 PM

I like what PAL said, "a final thought" I figure it's about time he got on board with the rest of the crew on here. Stopped thinking.

Rick

08-12-2009, 12:17 PM

(Snort) That was kinda funny. (chortle)

Pal334

08-12-2009, 12:25 PM

I like what PAL said, "a final thought" I figure it's about time he got on board with the rest of the crew on here. Stopped thinking.

Only one that one subject, the wheels are still churning

SARKY

08-12-2009, 12:36 PM

Hey Rick, it's fine going to that food distribution center.....just so long as you get there "firstest with the mostest" armed people!

Sourdough

08-12-2009, 12:57 PM

NOT saying one SHTF is gooder than another, However a slow developing SHTF (Example: unemployment creeping up to 37%) would be preferable to instant SHTF.

I think a slow deterioration is the most likely event. In point of fact, you could make the case that it is well underway, and we are seeing the slow migration, and slow evolution of preparation for the "Unknown Event". There has been a shift of awareness worldwide that something unpleasant is about to happen soon. This is like the feeling on the planet in 1938/39 that something unavoidable was about to happen. (WWII).

At some subconscious level we know we have over populated the Earth, we each pray that when the culling happens, via. pandemic, depression, civil war, whatever, that we are the survivors. Regretfully Dumb-a$$ luck, more than skill determines who lives and who dies, it is not fair, but LIFE IS NOT FAIR.

trax

08-12-2009, 01:48 PM

I like what PAL said, "a final thought" I figure it's about time he got on board with the rest of the crew on here. Stopped thinking.

Only one that one subject, the wheels are still churning

givin' yourself a lot of undue stress there, partner.:rolleyes:

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