How many of you have odd or wildcat caliber guns?

[SARKY]

I have a few oddballs, a 9mmMagnum pistol, and a Universal (M1 carbine) Ferret in .256 WinMag (a .357 brass necked down to .25 caliber). And lastly a Tokarev in 7.62x25. What about the rest of you?

[welderguy]

I have one oddball its a 9mm largo.

[welderguy]

:blushing:never mind scratch that I have odd ball ammo Not the firearm sorry

[crashdive123]

No oddball calibers here. Plenty of oddballs though.

[Sourdough]

I considered being a smart'a$$ and listing all my cartridges in their "European" conversion. The most rare cartridge I ever owned was the .475 Linebaugh "MAXIMUM" built by John Linebaugh on the Ruger .357 Maximun frame. Last I talked to John he had only built 18 of these firearms.

[2dumb2kwit]

I didn't think it was all that oddball, but since you brought it up, I have a CZ-52 in 7.62x25. (I also have one in 9mm.(Along with a new barrel for 7.62x25, in case I want to switch it.)) I thought about a Tokarov, but don't like the way they fit my hand.

I also have a CZ-82 9mm makarov. (9x18) Nice shooting little gun....and it was cheap!

How about 7.5x55 Swiss? I love my K-31.

Oh, what about 7.62x54R...is that oddball?

Can you tell that I'm kinda in to mil-surps? LOL

[endurance]

7.62x54R is definitely not that oddball. There's probably been more rounds of that ammunition manufactured than 9mm over the years.

[SARKY]

the 7.62x54R I believe is still in use in the Russian medium machine guns (equivilant to our M-60) and their sniper rifles.

[2dumb2kwit]

In numbers, I bet 7.62x54R is probably second only to 7.62x39, but around here, if you say 7.62x54R, people look at you like you're making it up! LOL


..and if you say anything about 7.62x25, you may as well plan on being there a while, explaining what it is.:blushing:

[pgvoutdoors]

My dad purchase a Remington varmint rifle back in the 70's that was chambered for their new 5mm Remington round. They dropped that round from production and anyone owning one of the rifles could exchange it for a 22 mag. My dad kept his and I ultimately got it. I kept it for many years along with two boxes of ammo. I eventually sold it to a collector for not much money.

From a write up on the 5mm:
It was introduced in 1970 in a pair of Remington bolt action rifles, the Models 591 (clip magazine) and 592 (tubular magazine) to a shooting world that could not have been less interested, and it became the shortest lived cartridge introduced since the end of WW II. The Remington 5mm rifles lasted only 5 years (1970-1974), and the cartridge quietly disappeared from the loading list a few years later.

The 5mm Rimfire offered more energy down range than the .22 WMR or the later .17 HMR (217 ft. lbs. for the 5mm vs. 170 ft. lbs. for the .22 WMR and 136 ft. lbs. for the .17 HMR at 100 yards). Its smaller diameter bullet was superior in ballistic coefficient and sectional density to the 40 grain .22 WMR bullet and that, plus its increased velocity, gave it a flatter trajectory and about a 25 yard advantage in effective range over the .22 Mag. During its brief life the 5mm Magnum developed a reputation as an effective and deadly varmint cartridge

[welderguy]

interesting facts pgv, I never heard of 5mm till now thanks.

[SARKY]

5mm ammo is available in limited quantities again. it was a caliber way ahead of it's time.

[pgvoutdoors]

The model I had must of been the 592 because it had a tubular magazine. It came with a scope. The 5mm round was a small copper jacketed, necked-down cartridge.
I stopped shooting it when the ammo became hard to find.

[SARKY]

..and if you say anything about 7.62x25, you may as well plan on being there a while, explaining what it is.

The 7.62x25 is in essence a lengthened 9mm case then necked down to .308 caliber. It is a pistol/submachinegun round and is a pretty hot round at that. The 90 gr bullet exits the muzzle at around 1600 fps! I personally like the round a lot! I have loaded it with .22 cal 60 gr bullets in sabots, and they scream down range! These loads are compareable to the 5.7 FN round coming out of a pistol and my CZ-52 was only $200.00 where as my Tokarev was only $159.00. OH yeah, both of these pistols are easily converted to 9mm by simply changing the barrel.

[2dumb2kwit]

..and if you say anything about 7.62x25, you may as well plan on being there a while, explaining what it is.

The 7.62x25 is in essence a lengthened 9mm case then necked down to .308 caliber. It is a pistol/submachinegun round and is a pretty hot round at that. The 90 gr bullet exits the muzzle at around 1600 fps! I personally like the round a lot! I have loaded it with .22 cal 60 gr bullets in sabots, and they scream down range! These loads are compareable to the 5.7 FN round coming out of a pistol and my CZ-52 was only $200.00 where as my Tokarev was only $159.00. OH yeah, both of these pistols are easily converted to 9mm by simply changing the barrel.


I got started with the 7.62x25, for all the reasons you just stated. You see, I never really shot handguns, so I figured that if I was going to get into it, I needed to shoot a lot. (I think, if you are going to own a handgun, and especially if you are going to carry one, you need to be pretty proficient with it.) Short of shooting .22, it's hard to beat a CZ-52 for $200, and 1,200+ rounds of 7.62x25 for under $150!

I hadn't thought about the .22 in a sabot, for the 7.62x25. That's a great idea.:tongue_smilie:

[hunter63]

I have a custom built varmint rifle chambered in .225 win.
Bought it from the wife of a silhouette target shooter.
Built on a Mauser '98 action, barrel by Boots Obermeyer (custom barrel maker).

Paid $15 dollars for it, then had problems getting ammo for it at first, so thought I had been "taken".
Bought a Lee Loader for it and since found some dies for my press, loader every round I shot.

Had some custom work done, so as to mount a scope:
Bolt/safety modified, barrel glass bedded and front sight removed/re-blued, action reworked for better feeding, stock, refinished, floor plate and trigger guard engraved (what the heck as long as I was getting nuts with it).

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/hunter63/PICT0415.jpg

Latest is the m1895 Nagant 7.62- 7 shot revolver, talk about an odd ball.
Have to get back to you on this, as I just got it.
Midway sell ammo for it.

[SARKY]

You know that you can get a .32acp cylinder for that Nagant! I might get a couple and bore one out to either .32 SW or .32 mag(if the revolver can handle the pressure, i'll have to check my books on that)

[hunter63]

It will handle S&W .32 long and H&K.32 mag.
Here is info:
http://www.sff.net/people/sanders/nagant.html

Came with the holster and all the stuff in the site.
Was $129 at the time.

[Rick]

Where do you people come up with this information? How can you possible know that? I walk into a gun shop and the dealer says, "This is a .45." and I say, "Duh, yep!"

You folks talk about boring out .32 mag to an HK something or other and then dropping in a 105mm so you can "reach out there and touch someone." I know what a deer in the headlights feels like. In case you haven't guessed....I'm envious. Another deadly sin completed.

[2dumb2kwit]

Heck....I even know that if I shoot my swiss K-31, with GP-11 surplus ammo, at a target 1,000 yards away,(with no wind) I need to aim about 42' above the target, in order to hit it! (Or...set the rear sight on 900 meters, and aim about 2' high.)


....or....to hit a target, with my mini-14, at 500 yards, I need to aim almost 4' high.:innocent:

[Rick]

All I know is you slap in a clip and start drivin' tacks. If you throw enough lead down field you are bound to hit something.

[crashdive123]

Are you trying to give Hope heart palpitations?

[Sourdough]

All I know is you slap in a clip and start drivin' tacks. If you throw enough lead down field you are bound to hit something.


Tisk-Tisk-Tisk-Bad BAD DOG.......

[SARKY]

Rick, go out and pick up "Cartridges of the World" and P.O.Ackley's book "hand book for shooters and reloaders". That will get you a little up to speed. Oh yeah......read them!

[hunter63]

LOL, there is a LOT of info out there, I guess everybody has a hobby, and crashing around on the 'net really helps.

When I was doing a search on ammo for the Nagant, came across a guy that basically says:
For a strong case for the 7.62;
Take an .223 case, neck down with a .30 cal M-1 sizer die till you can't press it down any more, (will leave a non-compression ridge).
Then put in lathe, (ya, right, sure, just part of my shop...) turn off the ridge, cut to length.
Reload using Win .32-20 dies.

Now that is someone that really knows his stuff, and must have a LOT of time/equipment to experiment with.
P.S. I haven't tried it yet. (ya think?)