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mountain mama
06-23-2009, 10:45 PM
As y'all can see, I'm back.

Okay, so after the climbing competition, I drove down to Riverside, California to camp out with the kids. We drove down to San Diego on Monday. On the way, I realized I had forgotten to give Wolfie his meds, so I asked Amber to hand him his medication, so I wouldn't have to pull off the freeway and possibly get lost. BAD IDEA! We arrived at Sea World and as soon as we got out of the car in the parking lot Wolfie started acting strange. He was wobbling around like he was drunk, saying "I'm dizzy". Then, he took a face plant into the asphalt. At first I thought he was just goofing off. So, I go buy the tickets. He's still wobbling around and saying he is dizzy so I assume he must be car sick, so I go back to the car and give him some Dramamine. ANOTHER BIG MISTAKE. We get inside the gates of Sea World and he is falling all over the place, so I take him directly to the First Aide station. They were absolutely wonderful. Ended up calling an ambulance for him. When I went to get my car to follow the ambulance to the hospital, I asked Amber to reach in the bag and get my insurance card out of the medication pocket. That's when she realized she had given Wolfie the wrong meds. Instead of his medication, she gave him my sleeping pills. I take a half a pill, he got 2 full pills. A 16X overdose!

After him being unresponsive for 6 hours in the emergency room, they decided to admit him. Finally, the meds wore off and he woke up. WHEW! They let us go next morning and we went to Sea World.

When we got back to the camp site at 8 pm that night, I found that marmots had broken into the tent. I don't know what I was thinking, but obviously I had inadvertently left some food in the tent. It seems that Marmots have sweet tooths. They ate all of Wolfie's chocolate donuts. They ate all of the unopened marshmallows. They got into the pancake mix and had a hey day playing in it. They spread it all over the tent. All this, mixed with LOTS of marmot poop. You can imagine how much fun it was to clean this up. However, they didn't care for the onion. That, they dragged out to the road and abandoned. It obviously wasn't suitable for their new playground.

The tent was ripped at the zipper, so I had to get my needle and thread out to repair the damage. By this time it was so dark I had to park the car on the ground facing the tent so I could see where to sew. When I was done it was nearly midnight, so I got the kids in to bed. There was a tree to my left, a picnic table to my right, a fire wheel somewhere in between, and a large curb directly behind me. It was so dark that I decided not to chance trying to back out until morning when I could see where I was going.

At 6 a.m. I woke to the sound of foot steps outside my tent. I jumped out to find a park ranger putting a ticket on my car for having parked on the ground rather than the pavement. I gave him my sob story of having to fix the tent in the dark. He laughed. Then he asks why my tent has been unattended for the past 2 days. That was another story, but I still had on the hospital i.d. bracelet as proof. By this time, I was nearly in tears (and I DON'T cry), so he kindly took the ticket back and backed away slowly so as not to disturb the raging bull I had transformed into.

Luckily, things calmed down after that and there were no more major disasters on the rest of our trip.
crashdive123
06-23-2009, 10:53 PM
Just chalk it up to a learning experience. Glad everybod is safe. How did Amber do?
mountain mama
06-23-2009, 11:01 PM
She didn't do so well the first day. She fell on her second climb. Not sure what happened, it was below her ability level at the point she dropped. Anyway, she ended up coming in 7th place, well below girls she had beat all season (there were 2 girls that were better than her, though). They only take the top 6 to Nationals, so she won't be going for sport. However, she did place 3rd in speed (should have been second, but she kinda gave up after she screwed up on the technical climb). So, she will be going to Nationals for speed climbing.
nell67
06-23-2009, 11:01 PM
Glad you are all ok MM,(BIG HUGS) for everything you had to endure.
SARKY
06-23-2009, 11:02 PM
Hey... all things considered, you did alright!
COWBOYSURVIVAL
06-24-2009, 12:01 AM
Wow! Your story makes me think about my little girl. Her ambitions are great so wonderful watching them develope. I wouldn't miss it for the world! Great Job MOM!
Sourdough
06-24-2009, 12:42 AM
Welcome home......
Winnie
06-24-2009, 04:47 AM
Don't know everyone yet, but I'm glad you all made it out safe and well, and that's the important thing.
Rick
06-24-2009, 07:22 AM
Glad Wolfie is okay. I'll bet Amber NEVER makes a mistake like that again. Costly lesson but sometimes they are. Glad she gets to go the finals. Give her our best.

Oh, that wasn't Marmots in the tent, by the way, and I'm sorry for the ripped zipper. My bad on that.
wareagle69
06-24-2009, 09:28 AM
let me share this with ya my dear
i have not gron up with the benefit of good mentors any thing or at least most things i have learned in life i have learned on my own, that being said most things i have done, i did wrong and learned greatly from them, the only way to survive shtf as you say is to put yourself in those situations as often as possible, it is easy for folks to say i would just camp out, its not that easy as you have seen. Now you know, write down your thoughts and experinces, and reveiw them from time to time also see what you would do the same or differently and also materials to have on site
mountain mama
06-24-2009, 09:30 AM
Oh, that wasn't Marmots in the tent, by the way, and I'm sorry for the ripped zipper. My bad on that.

Were they just plain ole ground squirrels then? Some of em were pretty big. We don't have those critters in my part of Texas or Idaho, so I wasn't sure what I was seeing. All I know is they had a major sweet tooth and enjoyed it till I put mothballs down to prevent them from making a return visit.

Thanks y'all! Wolfie is better now, thank goodness. That part really did scare me. The rest y'all can go ahead and laugh at me about. :D
Rick
06-24-2009, 10:31 AM
I'm not sure what "they" were but the marshmallows were pretty good and the donuts were excellent!!!
nell67
06-24-2009, 01:12 PM
Were they just plain ole ground squirrels then? Some of em were pretty big. We don't have those critters in my part of Texas or Idaho, so I wasn't sure what I was seeing. All I know is they had a major sweet tooth and enjoyed it till I put mothballs down to prevent them from making a return visit.

Thanks y'all! Wolfie is better now, thank goodness. That part really did scare me. The rest y'all can go ahead and laugh at me about. :D

MM,I think Rick is trying to tell you that he was the creature you found ransacking your tent!!! He is a creature all right,and science has yet to put a name to him:)
Rick
06-24-2009, 02:01 PM
Sadly, I'm not yet housebroken.
nell67
06-24-2009, 02:06 PM
Sadly, I'm not yet housebroken.

As evidenced by the little gifties you left behind in her tent!
crashdive123
06-24-2009, 02:48 PM
Oh great. Now we have to bring pooper scoopers on the trip to Indiana?
mountain mama
06-24-2009, 03:03 PM
Either that or I did find that the mothballs worked quite well ... although I still haven't figured out how they convinced all those moths to hand over the jewels :tt2:
crashdive123
06-24-2009, 03:09 PM
I don't much care for the smell of mothballs, but maybe we could put a litter box outside his tent.
Rick
06-24-2009, 08:30 PM
They taste yucky, too.
Ken
06-24-2009, 08:32 PM
They taste yucky, too.

Litter boxes? :blink:
Lorna
06-24-2009, 09:32 PM
Welcome back MM. So glad everyone is doing well. Congrats to Amber.
Rick
06-24-2009, 10:16 PM
Mothballs.
Ken
06-24-2009, 10:18 PM
Mothballs.

Big moths, huh? :innocent:
Rick
06-24-2009, 10:21 PM
It took a while to figure out those weren't mints in the urinals either.
Ken
06-24-2009, 10:35 PM
It took a while to figure out those weren't mints in the urinals either.

They're NOT??? :blushing:
wareagle69
06-25-2009, 06:18 AM
It took a while to figure out those weren't mints in the urinals either.

now that ain't right. as a plumber do you want to know the absolute worst part of my job, ain't sewers or grease traps or toilets, its urinals, when urine crystalizes its the worst smell and crap to deal with ever
crashdive123
06-25-2009, 06:51 AM
Mountain Mama - I read through this again. You titled the thread Why I Won't Survive...... I disagree. You did survive, and so did your family. You learned from things that went wrong. When things did go wrong you took corrective action that ensured all would survive. You will probably do things a bit differently in the future. The bottom line is that you did survive. Your family survived. You learned from your experience. I'd say all in all that you did well, even though your Mom instinct tells you different. Remember, survival ain't about being easy.
mountain mama
06-25-2009, 09:45 AM
now that ain't right. as a plumber do you want to know the absolute worst part of my job, ain't sewers or grease traps or toilets, its urinals, when urine crystalizes its the worst smell and crap to deal with ever

Have you tried Kool Aid? I read in another thread that it helped with dishwashers, so why not urinals?


Mountain Mama - I read through this again. You titled the thread Why I Won't Survive...... I disagree. You did survive, and so did your family. You learned from things that went wrong. When things did go wrong you took corrective action that ensured all would survive. You will probably do things a bit differently in the future. The bottom line is that you did survive. Your family survived. You learned from your experience. I'd say all in all that you did well, even though your Mom instinct tells you different. Remember, survival ain't about being easy. Thanks, crash. I did learn quite a bit on the trip (not to keep all the meds together in the same place or ask another child to dispense them, even though the med bottles were clearly marked for differentiation) and even got a reminder on stuff I knew but disregarded (like leaving food in a tent). We will be taking lots of weekend outings/camping trips throughout the summer, but it will be in my neck of the woods where I feel much more comfortable. Consequently, we might not even take a tent on a few. Practice some of our more primitive skills, etc. Not exactly a survival situation when you are that close to home and have nothing to fear.
wareagle69
06-25-2009, 10:41 AM
Have you tried Kool Aid? I read in another thread that it helped with dishwashers, so why not urinals?

Thanks, crash. I did learn quite a bit on the trip (not to keep all the meds together in the same place or ask another child to dispense them, even though the med bottles were clearly marked for differentiation) and even got a reminder on stuff I knew but disregarded (like leaving food in a tent). We will be taking lots of weekend outings/camping trips throughout the summer, but it will be in my neck of the woods where I feel much more comfortable. Consequently, we might not even take a tent on a few. Practice some of our more primitive skills, etc. Not exactly a survival situation when you are that close to home and have nothing to fear.

customers don't want to pay for kool aid they pay for professional cleaning wiith a machine, now that said there is a chemical that does help prevent the build up of urine crystalization which i do sell to my customers. funny how they(customers ) think sometimes. i have fixed a problem with their plumbing w/o carrying in any tools and they get mad cuz i didn't carry in a tool box, guess they feel like they should have been able to fix it if i could but i tell them you are paying for my knowledge not my tools
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