They be taking our guns!

[MCBushbaby]

:pirate Pirates! All of them!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp

Blair Holt bill is in congress and under the radar. Write your congressmen, or better yet, march on capital hill! Read it carefully, they are not only taking away gun rights but ALSO:

* Unwarranted home/job access to impromptu mental and physical screenings, even AFTER you own your gun, whevener they ****ing want!
* Unwarranted home access to CHECK if your gun is stored safetly!

WTF!


*knock knock*

"who is it-"


////// Scratch that. There's no knocking:

*bam!* Your door is knocked the f*ck in!

"whao, what the hell, who is-"

"Police muther****er! Time to check your sanity and root through your house for guns!"

Bull****. Utter.

[crashdive123]

Talked about it here (http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5821)

[wildography]

time for the wife and kids to memorize the magic words... "yes, we were terribly scared! We were in fear of our life; All we saw were men with guns bursting into the house! We were certain that we were about to die!"

Add a few tears and not only will the jury decide in Daddy's favor, but you'll probably win a huge lawsuit.

[Durlaburban]

/\
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Im with that guy lol

[Blood Groove]

Oh no! My SKS is like my child. If that was taken....I don't know what i'd do. And if they took away from my Ka-bar!!!!! I'd go insane!

[SARKY]

Subject: Fwd: Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009



FYI: This comes as no surprise. Handguns and most firearms are not permitted in socialistic countries such as ours which it is fast becoming. Governmental control of our freedoms as outlined in our Constitution are all being eroded. Governmental Control of our financial institutions, health care, educational and the right to bear and keep arms in addition to the redistribution of your individual wealth are all changes most Americans voted for and will embrace not to mention the $1000 check all Americans will receive just because you are alive in the USA. We will not recognize America in 2 years. You will not recognize your investments in America in less time than that.

Subject: Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009

Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 It has already started....

Ammunition Accountability Legislation

Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo!

The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!

If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

Send to your friends in these states AND fight to dissolve this BILL!!

To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:

http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

[woodsman86]

I beleive my Battalion Motto says it all and if they still don't understand I have 15 different ways to explain it.
http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv139/woodsman86/P2250624.jpg

[crashdive123]

While this is a difficult subject to discuss without discussing the political aspects of it, let's just make sure people are aware of what is happening and not discuss the politics of it.

[woodsman86]

Your right no time to talk....must attend gun shows and buy guns....must order crates of ammo.....must build secret ammo bunker before 2011.....aaaaaaa no time

[wildography]

Your right no time to talk....must attend gun shows and buy guns....must order crates of ammo.....must build secret ammo bunker before 2011.....aaaaaaa no time

LMAO

:yes: :gunsmilie: :toomany: :banana: :nod: :thumbup: :thumbup1: :lol:

[swampmouse]

Unfortunately the politics are what is involved here.

[Dennis K.]

Subject: Fwd: Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009

FYI: This comes as no surprise. Handguns and most firearms are not permitted in socialistic countries such as ours which it is fast becoming. Governmental control of our freedoms as outlined in our Constitution are all being eroded. Governmental Control of our financial institutions, health care, educational and the right to bear and keep arms in addition to the redistribution of your individual wealth are all changes most Americans voted for and will embrace not to mention the $1000 check all Americans will receive just because you are alive in the USA. We will not recognize America in 2 years. You will not recognize your investments in America in less time than that.

Subject: Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009

Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 It has already started....

Ammunition Accountability Legislation

Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo!

The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!

If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

Send to your friends in these states AND fight to dissolve this BILL!!

To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:

http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

Sarky -
That has been thoroughly debunked.
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5546&highlight=ammunition

The site referenced in my posts - www.FactCheck.org is highly respected.

The "Ammunition Accountability Act" is, however, sponsored almost entirely by a company that sells technolgy for encoding bullets. Both the legislation and the company are PERFECT examples of "special interest" legislation.


And for everyone:

If you receive an email that has forty-leben forwards, its probably BS.
If it has a bunch of spelling errors, it is probably BS
If you have been selected from 839 applicants for job making $18million a year, it is probably BS
You did not win the British Lottery.
And no, the wealthy land owner in Nigeria is not going to give you a million dollars to help him transfer money to this country.

[Ole WV Coot]

I would bet a dollar against a donut that something will hit the fan around April. My CCW is due for renewal then. Now to dig up an old RG 22cal that I can say is my carry gun just in case. I haven't shot anyone lately so I reckon we shall see.

[Dennis K.]

I would bet a dollar against a donut that something will hit the fan around April. My CCW is due for renewal then. Now to dig up an old RG 22cal that I can say is my carry gun just in case. I haven't shot anyone lately so I reckon we shall see.

What do you think will hit the fan? Why do you think something will hit the fan?

right now, the only thing I see, aside from corrupt politicians and money hungry suits, is Boogie Men.

[Rick]

I'm not certain why all the uproar. Why is this attempt any different than the last dozen or so? There is alwys some misguided representative of the people that put their personal agenda in front of the desires of the people. There probably always will be. So, we do what we've always done, vote them out of office.

[SARKY]

I'm not certain why all the uproar. Why is this attempt any different than the last dozen or so? There is alwys some misguided representative of the people that put their personal agenda in front of the desires of the people. There probably always will be. So, we do what we've always done, vote them out of office.

From your mouth to goddess's ears! The populace has been so dumd downed, I don't think that they are smart enough to vote the vermin out of office.

[Ole WV Coot]

What do you think will hit the fan? Why do you think something will hit the fan?

right now, the only thing I see, aside from corrupt politicians and money hungry suits, is Boogie Men.

You answered your own question just add "politically correct". WV & KY are being blamed by the national media for all firearm crimes on the East Coast. I
have owned firearms well over 50yrs and I have had a concealed carry permit for many years. Logically who do you think is "on record" as owning and carrying a handgun? Do you think people like me that did their dirty work then put back on the shelf are part of being "politically correct" to people who have never crawled in the mud nor put in the position of killing people? I was trained well, yet now that I am much older why should I be "allowed" to carry a firearm? Politicians aren't all stupid. I can be regulated or priced out of firearms and ammo. England & Australia are only two examples of your "boogie men". Can't carry a SAK in England now, confiscation in Australia, where do you think it will end? There are people like me who will stop by any means anyone that attempts to harm them, their family or any innocent person. I have knives I used in the '60s that are illegal to carry yet I got a pat on the head for using them, same with firearms. I love being paranoid, sleep better at night knowing there are other, younger better people that feel as I do. I refuse to be treated like crap as we were in the '60s so the "politically correct" could have the right to do as they wished. My personal views, agree or not it doesn't make any difference to me.

[Dennis K.]

Coot -
1st - thank you for your service. You have probably experienced more in service to our country than a vast majority of forum junkies.

England and Australia certainly do have restrictive gun ownership laws.
N. Korea, Iran, Egypt, Yemen, China have laws that would incarcerate you for speaking out at all against the government.
What I am asking specifically is - What do you see, in your community, that leads you to believe something will happen? Has there been a legislation change? Are authorities "checking up" on permits and inventories? Are any authority agencies beefing up personnel? Have any agencies began monitoring inventory that you know of?
Prices of guns & ammo have gone up. Is this due to additional taxes, like the nearly-cost-prohibitive cigarette taxes? Are more tax hikes pending? Are the permit prices due for a rate hike that will make them cost prohibitive?
I simply would like some specifics, rather than vague feelings of "something wicked this way comes."

[Ken]

I hope the cops take my guns away.......Soon.....this week-end will work well for me.

When they ask you how many you have, tell them you have one. Encounters like this often lead to confusion, so use sign language to make sure there is no misunderstanding. Something like this: :fuk2:

[nell67]

When they ask you how many you have, tell them you have one. Encounters like this often lead to confusion, so use sign language to make sure there is no misunderstanding. Something like this: :fuk2:

You like that smilie,don't you Ken?!

[Ken]

You like that smilie,don't you Ken?!

You know, Nell, I was thinking of typing "I love these new smilies!" at the end of my post. Thought it would be overkill. Thanks for the encouragement!

[Ole WV Coot]

Excuse my rambling but it really is tough to answer without getting political. We have a great country and politicians in general think they know what is good for us poor uneducated citizens, that's socialism. I am a strong believer in individual rights with the only exception of a danger or cost to anyone else. My grandson, just out of high school wants to join the Marines before college and I honestly can't say either way, when I was
his age the draft made the decision. "First we disarm the citizens" removed any possible resistance at the beginning of WWII that cost us dearly. I fear the United Nations and their push by countries to disarm us that are constantly at war. As to my state I know personally our state leaders, the Speaker was my neighbor, all local politicians sheriff etc and none want tighter controls. Yes, guns and ammo are being priced almost out of the reach of lots. When I renew my carry license it will cost more than $100, in this economy lots won't take the "rent" money to renew. That plus even the rumor of forced insurance on firearm liability even without a basis has a ripple effect. The castle doctrine law is only common sense yet it is a state decision. If I am wrong please correct me but I thought the Supreme Court and all judges were to interpret the laws, not make them. Stupid laws have been made and repealed in CA against recruiters and the LEOs have no political support. I have close relatives in the KY State Police to LEOs in Hawaii and I will take their word on what they tell me. The anti-gun groups are well funded and I personally don't impress easily as TV or screen personalities speak against handguns with less knowledge than the American in the real world. The drug problem, increase of home invasion for medication causes fear. Media statements about us arming
criminals increases prices and person to person sales. Increased gun & ammo costs are taking advantage of a real fear today. A rumor repeated on TV will cause panic and believed if told enough. Unless the 2nd Amendment is repealed I will not be disarmed. I can't go into detail politically as I am on the edge now but money, abuse of authority and greed are pricing people out of their rights. I have carried legally 40+ yrs and never
unholstered or shown my weapon and pray I never will. Where I now live we have our problems but gun control isn't a problem, yet. Once again my opinion only.

[Ken]

Big, Biggest Gun show of the year this weekend. I have three tables rented. Now the cops in Anchorage make Big Bucks, some make $155,000.00 up to $185,000.00 per year (they get a lot of overtime).

So they can come and give me cash, and take my guns. I'll have about 55 to 60 for sale out of 73 total........Need to make room for the Mail Order Bride, Ken is picking out.

Sooooooo, like I said, when the cops come for your guns, tell them you have 60. All the activity at gun shows may lead to confusion, so use sign language to make sure there is no misunderstanding. Something like this:

:fuk2: 60 times.

How's that, Nell?:lol:

Hopeak, I'm building a crate to ship that Mail Order Bride over in. Probably one of those gorgeous Russian girls.....:tongue_smilie:

[rebel]

Excuse my rambling but it really is tough to answer without getting political. We have a great country and politicians in general think they know what is good for us poor uneducated citizens, that's socialism. I am a strong believer in individual rights with the only exception of a danger or cost to anyone else. My grandson, just out of high school wants to join the Marines before college and I honestly can't say either way, when I was
his age the draft made the decision. "First we disarm the citizens" removed any possible resistance at the beginning of WWII that cost us dearly. I fear the United Nations and their push by countries to disarm us that are constantly at war. As to my state I know personally our state leaders, the Speaker was my neighbor, all local politicians sheriff etc and none want tighter controls. Yes, guns and ammo are being priced almost out of the reach of lots. When I renew my carry license it will cost more than $100, in this economy lots won't take the "rent" money to renew. That plus even the rumor of forced insurance on firearm liability even without a basis has a ripple effect. The castle doctrine law is only common sense yet it is a state decision. If I am wrong please correct me but I thought the Supreme Court and all judges were to interpret the laws, not make them. Stupid laws have been made and repealed in CA against recruiters and the LEOs have no political support. I have close relatives in the KY State Police to LEOs in Hawaii and I will take their word on what they tell me. The anti-gun groups are well funded and I personally don't impress easily as TV or screen personalities speak against handguns with less knowledge than the American in the real world. The drug problem, increase of home invasion for medication causes fear. Media statements about us arming
criminals increases prices and person to person sales. Increased gun & ammo costs are taking advantage of a real fear today. A rumor repeated on TV will cause panic and believed if told enough. Unless the 2nd Amendment is repealed I will not be disarmed. I can't go into detail politically as I am on the edge now but money, abuse of authority and greed are pricing people out of their rights. I have carried legally 40+ yrs and never
unholstered or shown my weapon and pray I never will. Where I now live we have our problems but gun control isn't a problem, yet. Once again my opinion only.

They be taking more than your guns.

Profound Quote

"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation.. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."
Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931-2005

[Dennis K.]

Thanks, coot. I appreciate your willingness to speak, and I value your opinion even if I may slightly disagree in some areas.
FWIW - I don't think you are rambling at all.

[doug1980]

Though I do value my guns and the right to own, carry and obtain them. There are many other things much worse going on in this country. It's appauling what we have allowed to happen to this country and I see very little hope it will recover.

[Sourdough]

[QUOTE=Ken;101997 I'm building a crate to ship that Mail Order Bride over in. Probably one of those gorgeous Russian girls.....:tongue_smilie:[/QUOTE]


I am too old for a Russian Girl........I need a nice sweet old lady. Prefer used, but not used up.
One that is not as good as she once was, but is as good once as she ever was........:lol::):lol:

[Ken]

I am too old for a Russian Girl........I need a nice sweet old lady. Prefer used, but not used up.
One that is not as good as she once was, but is as good once as she ever was........:lol::):lol:

How about this one?

[Sourdough]

Though I do value my guns and the right to own, carry and obtain them. There are many other things much worse going on in this country. It's appauling what we have allowed to happen to this country and I see very little hope it will recover.

Some Bankers should be going to Prison for fraud. And their ill gained profits confiscated and returned to the FDIC or Treasury.

[Ole WV Coot]

Thanks, coot. I appreciate your willingness to speak, and I value your opinion even if I may slightly disagree in some areas.
FWIW - I don't think you are rambling at all.

Dennis, always feel free to disagree with me or anyone on anything. It sure would be dull if we agreed on each and every thing it sure would be dull. I value everyone's opinion and may disagree or not. Most folks on here have an open mind and are much more knowledgeable than I. I learn from everyone. My opinions are based mostly on my limited experience only. I wouldn't last in AK or the desert but I am at home in the Appalachian chain and will probably never leave again.

[Rick]

Rebel - Your quote is indeed profound. I first read that belief from a Swede (Sadly, who's name eludes me). His was a very similar statement that went something like .. Once a nation's people understand they can withdraw from the public coffers, that nation is doomed and will slowly self destruct. He wrote that in the 18th century. This, I think, is our greatest threat and one of my greatest fears. If our death as a nation comes, it will come from inside our own borders precipitated by our own lack of respect for one another and from our own lack of responsibility for our own actions.