"Nobody will be spared, unless they own gold bars"

[BraggSurvivor]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/3141428/Germany-takes-hot-seat-as-Europe-falls-into-the-abyss.html

"We face extreme danger. Unless there is immediate intervention on every front by all the major powers acting in concert, we risk a disintegration of global finance within days. Nobody will be spared, unless they own gold bars."




The point of the bailout is not to rescue the U.S. economy. The point was to “make the economy scream” and take the whole world down with it, starting with the uppity Americans. The overarching objective of this take down by the Over Class is to create a global under class so desperate that it will beg for any slavery imposed upon it, all for the sake of a warm meal and a safe place to sleep.

Good luck folks........

[Rick]

Pffffffft. Man, snorting coffee hurts. You should try a comedy club.

[marylp]

I am so confused! I dont have gold bars.

[bulrush]

But if the economy goes under for 2 years, won't that weed out the clueless CEO's, and encourage America to live off their savings or cash instead of credit cards and second mortgages? Isn't that a good thing?

[trax]

I am so confused! I dont have gold bars.

welcome to 99.99999999999999999999% of the human race mary (I may have left out some nines for brevity's sake) If the world economy crashes the way the doom and gloomers keep telling us, what good are gold bars going to do you? Staples, (not the kind for holding paper together) are the only thing a person should spend whatever money they may have available today on. Basic food and clothing items, ammunition, old seasons of SNL and Monty Python on DVD...basics.

[Tony uk]

welcome to 99.99999999999999999999% of the human race mary (I may have left out some nines for brevity's sake) If the world economy crashes the way the doom and gloomers keep telling us, what good are gold bars going to do you? Staples, (not the kind for holding paper together) are the only thing a person should spend whatever money they may have available today on. Basic food and clothing items, ammunition, old seasons of SNL and Monty Python on DVD...basics.

Toilet paper :p

[crashdive123]

The heck with gold bars.....breakfast bars is the way to go. Good shelf life and you can eat em.

[RobertRogers]

I agree with Crash - you will be wanting stuff you can use. Beans, bullets, and bandaids. Gold could become useless in a real SHTF situation, unless you can melt it down into bullets.

[chiye tanka]

Silver is for bullets. I agree with you guys, stock up while you can, if TSHF for real. Although, remember Y2K, all the doom & gloomers were wrong there, who knows. I will say, this does look worse.

[trax]

Toilet paper :p

naah, we'll all be using bragg's money for that...:D

[Sourdough]

"Nothing from nothing leaves nothing, you to have nothing if you want to be FREE."

[crashdive123]

Ah - a Billy Preston fan?

[Sourdough]

Ya, got'a quote the TRUTH where ever you find it.

[remy]

How much ?

Bragg has been talking a lot about money lately...for reasons that sometimes escape my eyes, he has made me re-think our relations with this pillar of our human form that is money.

Everywhere i have been, thinking i could have lived there without money, money came up...some individuals asked me how to make some, some stole it from me or begged, and others simply wanted to talk about it.
In the Alps people talk about money...on the island of Guadeloupe, people talk about it...in the favellas of Rio, in the train station of Naples, at home...in my street we talk about money.
Where i heard less individuals talk about money, was in psychiatric hospitals (on the patient side)...it seams that only children and individuals deemed "crazy" do not talk about money...although, i see once in a while young children doing the groceries with their mothers, pushing a little cart in order to learn the value of things, to learn independence and conviviality they say....but in fact, it is to learn to enter the system of over-consummation we have put in place.

My job ?
I chose it for the power it gives me. Indirectly, the money i can generate, and at the same time the pleasure of the power is also synonymous with power, and serves to comfort it.
It is not here about personal power, but power of consummation...which means to be able to push the other one and take a spot on the moving train.

How did i choose my job ?
It is hard to say for sure if i chose it, or if the outside circumstances of education, of favoritism, of situation or even financial interests were not more important and influential.
When i think about it...i chose my job for what it creates in the eyes of others...and therefore, to avoid what i wanted to talk about...humiliation.

Humiliation is what money allows us to avoid.
Humiliation is a wound within pride, and the source of this wound is often found in our personal history and without a doubt it is also its foundation.
To humiliate others is also what money allows us to do...instead of rendering him or her dependent as wild animals would do with a weaker individual, money allows us to play with the other, and to make slaves and develop a sense of self importance.

We all know the humiliation brought on by the power of money when we lay our hands on someone, and we are able to make him pay this position of symbolic inferiority, which was once known of us all when an adult laid their hands on us to make us understand that we were under his rule...that we were at his mercy.

I also note that it is somewhat interesting that humiliation births tyranny. Money and the value it symbolically represents as "false" personal power has taken over affective positions and ideologies. Everything can be bought, and everything can be sold, and objects being passed around under the blanket of money have in a way no more value.

I was asking myself...what is Bragg trying to say ?
That money is a symbolic representation of energy ?
As in "conserve your energy", "energy cost", "energy investment" ?
Or is he talking to me about his desire to secretly humiliate others for having not understood his own humiliations ?

To put money under the mattress, and especially in the form of gold becomes an interesting image...I like those almost compulsive posts from Bragg...they point to something we have all experienced.

[Rick]

Gold bars? Oh, man. I thought he was talking about a captain. Silly me.

[Sarge47]

(Hysterical scream) OH NO!!!! I'M ALREADY BROKE!!! WHAT AM I GOING TO DO?! GOLD BARS! DOESN'T WILLY WONKA MAKE THOSE? :eek: (Calms down) Well, I've always said: "LIFE SUCKS...THEN YOU DIE!" Let's see, who can I rob...hmmm. where does Bragg live again...:rolleyes:

[wareagle69]

i dunno i don't get it how will gold bars help? if you come by my place and want to trade for some food that i have i sure ain't takin a gold bar give me some fuel or clothng or something to trade for something i in turn will turn around and regift err trade to someone else

[FVR]

Well, if the sheot ever does hit the fan, we, and many who have visited this board know that ol Bragg has bookoo gold bars along with silver somewhere.

Sooner or later, he gonna run out of bullets and someone is going to be the new owner of his fortune. Then they will be off'd, and it will be a continued cycle until it's all gone.

[crashdive123]

Can alway melt down the silver, make it into bullets for the werewolves and the gold...now the gold....will that work on zombies?

[BraggSurvivor]

If they needed it that bad they could take it, not a biggie. Ninety percent of my assets are in commercial real estate and recreational holdings.

Greed has got us into the situation we are all in - in the first place.

Typical response.

[crashdive123]

What????? You didn't like my idea about the silver bullets?

[BraggSurvivor]

You know as well as I do Crash, silver is ineffective on zombies. Sheesh. :D

[crashdive123]

No. No. No. I said the silver was for the werewolves. I was asking if the gold would work on the zombies. ((did you notice how I signed that out as I said it)):D

[BraggSurvivor]

Well, if the sheot ever does hit the fan, we, and many who have visited this board know that ol Bragg has bookoo gold bars along with silver somewhere.

Sooner or later, he gonna run out of bullets and someone is going to be the new owner of his fortune. Then they will be off'd, and it will be a continued cycle until it's all gone.

I had to sit back on what you said in your post FVR:

A person either supports the principle of non-aggression or doesn't. There is no intermediate position. No "I am not a free market but not a commie either". Mutually exclusive, period. You either agree that humans cannot be owned or believe that humans are wholly owned. Agreeing to let someone out on a longer leash does not mean more freedom - it means zero freedom. As long as there is a leash.
Supporting tax of 10% while reserving the power to tax 100% is slavery. Supporting voluntary military while reserving the power to draft is slavery.

Now, if one doesn't recognize non-aggression as a principle - fine. Nothing strange whatsoever with attacking or threatening a person that has something of value that one wants, even when that person has not attacked anyone first - in fact history is mostly like that.

Just don't tell me that they are planning to use the loot to "help underprivileged" - feed the poor, treat the sick, protect the weak, etc. I know that either they are lying or too stupid to realize that they are lying - on behalf of someone smart enough to actually gain power. So why bother? Take it.

[FVR]

Bragg,

Wow, think ya might have read too, way too, much in what I posted. I was only going for your stockpiled gold and silver scenario.

Did not use any symbolism in this one, although, after I read it just now, yeh, the sysmbolism is there. Maybe physcologically, unknowingly, I put it in there. May have to make an appointment with Remy.

I may have some deep animosity that you have gold and silver bars, and I don't. Maybe, just maybe, I am laying out plans to heist your stash and make off to South America where I can live like a king.

Or maybe, I was just screwing with you.

[Rick]

Looks like someone needs a hug.

[BraggSurvivor]

Silver is for bullets. I agree with you guys, stock up while you can, if TSHF for real. Although, remember Y2K, all the doom & gloomers were wrong there, who knows. I will say, this does look worse.

Most investment assets are fiduciary paper; only a minority of them are 'real' as in the sense of 'real estate'. These 'real' assets tend not to be liquid. Inexperienced people underrate the importance of gold as an investment. They do not realise that it is one thing to own a marketable security, and quite a different thing to own a house.

Being both a liquid and a ‘real’ asset, gold is always marketable and over history has maintained a constant value.

There is only one commodity which has very high liquidity and very high reality at the same time, and that is gold. This gives it a unique status in investment. The high liquidity of gold means that it is likely to be saleable in almost any circumstances. In 1940 when French refugees were fleeing from the advancing German armies, it was still possible to buy fuel for gold or gold coins, but not for bonds or paper money. Even in circumstances of panic, gold still had a value.

The likelihood is that in the next year or so, it will be a period of a very unstable world economy. Because it is liquid, gold will also be saleable. Because it is real, it will not lose its value completely, as will all currencies over the next 100 years. Gold is the asset which adapts to changing conditions. There will never be a gold wipe-out. Stocks and "fake" fiduciary paper are high risk and as we have seen lately.... can become worthless.

[SARKY]

Just a thought here, I did a Y2K disaster prep. seminar for Cisco systems. The CEO asked me about gold and how much should he have and was it worth stocking up on it.
I told him flat out that he couldn't eat it, hunt with it, trap with it, fish with it, and it wasn't in denominations small enough to purchsae anything in small quanities. Also if I have food, medical supplies and a gun, what is to prevent me from just taking his gold? Think About It......cynical me

[BraggSurvivor]

Just a thought here, I did a Y2K disaster prep. seminar for Cisco systems. The CEO asked me about gold and how much should he have and was it worth stocking up on it.
I told him flat out that he couldn't eat it, hunt with it, trap with it, fish with it, and it wasn't in denominations small enough to purchsae anything in small quanities. Also if I have food, medical supplies and a gun, what is to prevent me from just taking his gold? Think About It......cynical me

If someone is holding physical gold, most likely they will also have food, medical supplies and a way BIGGER gun......;)