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BraggSurvivor
08-07-2008, 11:36 PM
With plenty of oil to fuel their economy, and more NatGas than any other jurisdiction, Russia may be the lone superpower some day soon:
http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/pastanalysis/2008/0307.html
From Crisis to Baby Boom
Russia witnesses its highest birth rate in 25 years
http://www.mnweekly.ru/national/20080208/55308656.html
In a few years, Americans will be begging to go and live in Russia.
But they will look down on you as a poor starving American refugee and say "Nyet".
Add in the former head of the KGB and a Master chess player to boot calling the shots, (Putin) whom would you bet on?
In the future the Golden Rule will be...He that has the gold and oil, makes the rules.
He never got over the disgrace of the Cold War...and for him, it is not over.
See? This is why we advanced from records to CDs. Records get stuck in the same place.;)
BraggSurvivor
08-08-2008, 09:30 PM
I know what your talking about Rick.....kinda like your jokes.
Trax's jokes on the other hand, side splitting everytime! :D
BraggSurvivor
08-08-2008, 09:36 PM
Dang....
Russia, Georgia troops battle along border
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26080747/
Georgian army moves to retake South Ossetia
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hV2N6fVKS5slf10A13Dj_uIdaZ4QD92E6BSO0
Over 10 Russian troops killed in S.Ossetia
http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=286912
Report: Georgia shoots down two Russian planes during clashes
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/08/report-georgia.html
Go to http://www.antiwar.com for more info...
It is no accident that war broke out on the very day the Olympics started. The Olymics will push this invasion off the front pages as long as they go on. Russia has been planning this for months and is hoping it can things wrapped up and have sovreignity for South Ossetia by the time the game are finished.
Trax's jokes on the other hand, side splitting everytime!
Well, sure. Yeah. That's because he has a rapier like wit. A super genius IQ and a vision the rest of us just don't have. (Traxistan? Need I say more?).
He's sort of the Steve Martin of the Wilderness Survival set. The Henny Youngman of the great outdoors, "Take my moose .... please!"
VampireRanger676
08-09-2008, 07:32 AM
you seem to be the bringer of depression lately bragg
crashdive123
08-09-2008, 08:16 AM
Lately??? Ha.
BraggSurvivor
08-09-2008, 05:32 PM
As I wrote on the Georgia/Russia conflict post, it was unbelieveable to see oil tank on the same day that Russia invaded Georgia. The pipeline that runs through Georgia provides 1 million barrels of oil a day to the west, which is a substantial supply. There were reports that Russia was targeting the pipeline in their bombing runs. This Russia Georgia conflict has many potentially dire outcomes. It may be that we may have seen the bottom of the correction in oil and other commodities on Monday. Hope I didn't miss the boat by not buying more silver..... (leaving for holidays) :(
BraggSurvivor
08-12-2008, 01:01 AM
For those who haven't read the history, in the 1930's Stalin opened up Russia to foreign investment and many US companies including GM and Ford invested heavily in the place, only to have it stolen under the banner of nationalisation a few years later. Basically the communist system had, as usual, eaten it's own seed corn and was desperate for an injection of capital. The cycle continues. The T34 tank (the best tank in WW2) was built in a GM tractor plant.
Putin was brought up in the communist system. He may be smart but he's no economist, that's for sure. I doubt he realises just how fragile a flower a market economy is. He's stomping around the market place in his size nine KGB boots scaring off investors by the thousand. Will any of his advisors have the balls to tell him the honest truth or will they be telling him what he wants to hear?
Or on the other hand......
Putin drove out the Mafia, the Zionists, and the all the crooked Rothschild bankers. I suppose that could be interpreted as being anti business.
But Russia has thrived economically since these PARASITE SCUM were driven out.
Sure Putin is as tough as nails, he also threw out many of the corrupt politicians, and replaced them with his old KGB buddies. He was roundly criticized in the West for doing that too.
But it is a funny thing about Intelligence officers, and ex intelligence officers.
They tend to be fiercely loyal to their own country, tough, smart, honest and incorruptible. Organized crime stands no chance against a network of former intelligence officers.
He is a tough SOB all right, he has no time for the crooked slime.
But regardless, Russia is now economically thriving. It has an excellent balance of trade, and is rapidly stockpiling gold. Putin hopes to make Russia a major economic centre of the world, and he will likely succeed......
Well, sure. Yeah. That's because he has a rapier like wit. A super genius IQ and a vision the rest of us just don't have. (Traxistan? Need I say more?).
To our newer members, we are highly trained professionals, do not try brandishing or using a rapier like wit without proper supervision and training. Wilderness-survival.net will not be held liable for any personal injuries you may incur.
and vision? Well Rick, kinda makes me think of Tommy Lee Jones answer to the journalist at the end of Lonesome Dove.
"They say you're a man of vision."
"Hellish visions":D
I will not move to Russia, now or ever, I'd move north to Canada first :D really like the land up there. With Russia fighting or battling in georgia now they're trying to return to the past of the Soviet Union IMHO. DOn't trust them or the Chinese, or North Korean's or the... well a long list so I'll stop.
Yeah bro, having gotten to know you, a shorter list might be who you do trust, LOL.
Hey, I try to keep folks happy. You never know who the next ruler will be. Soooo......
Я люблю Россию!
crashdive123
08-12-2008, 03:02 PM
Love is a bit strong, don't you think?
I will not move to Russia, now or ever, I'd move north to Canada first :D
Hey, haven't you heard bro? Same thing. Ask Sam Reeves. :D :D :D
Strong? Let's see. The Bolsheviks are at the front door. The KGB is at the back door. No, I think love about sums it up.
(Psssst. You guys need to check out this Crash fella. I don't think he loves Mother Russia.)
crashdive123
08-12-2008, 03:15 PM
Comrad брат, там - он stashing twinkes вдали от государства.
I trust, Canada, England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, France, Austraila, Sweeden, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Japan, Iceland, Greenland, South America (just about everyone) Jamaica and those islands, Cyprus, Greece, the Italians, Spain, India (just like them don't know why), Norway, Sri Lanka, Switzerland, Thailand, the Virgin Islands (Both British and U.S.) used to trust some of the African countries but since I keep getting emails saying I'm the heir to millions they just need my account info and SSN I'll resend trusting them until I collect my fortune... lol.. Yeah that's about it.
And of course the people of Free Traxistan!!!
YOu never got your millions from those emails? I did.
Dude! If I had a nickle for every million.......
Sam Reeves
08-12-2008, 08:25 PM
Hey, haven't you heard bro? Same thing. Ask Sam Reeves. :D :D :D
Comparing Russia to Canada?
Russia has a long and proud history before WWII. All Canada knew is that it still wanted to be a colony then a Socialist society. While Canada has a lot of economic freedom I doubt it the same civil liberties that Russia has. You probably don't know the difference.
nell67
08-12-2008, 08:33 PM
Comparing Russia to Canada?
ARE Canada knew is that it still wanted to be a colony then a Socialist society. While Canada has a lot of economic freedom I doubt it the same civil liberties that Russia has. You probably don't know the difference.
???????????
BraggSurvivor
08-12-2008, 11:36 PM
All you Americans, listen up! Did you know that as of today you are all Georgians? Well, Johnny McPain said he speaks for ALL of you and he declared that today you are a Georgian.
See and hear it for yourself...and be sure to watch the brain dead sheeple giving McPain applause...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iphxko1Amkk
So I ask, are you boys and girls ready to go die over South Osh*itsya? If not, I'm sure McStain will be more than willing to send you off to some other crap hole. And of course the warmongers will be coming to steal more of your money to pay for it all.
So git out there and kill some Ruskies! McPain would have it no other way.
And if your not willing to kill and die at McPain's whim...well, you just hate democracy and freedom.
(head slap) I'm going to look for a much bigger stick for you to stir that pot of sh** you have. The stick you're using isn't nearly big enough. How did you come up with all that rhetoric from that speech. Slow news day?
crashdive123
08-13-2008, 07:30 AM
Bragg - I liked you so much better when you were bbqing and staying out of politics.
SR, Russia has a long proud history? Yeah communism is great... pffft.
Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general. It is usually considered to be a branch of socialism but you know that since you hate socialism, a broad group of social and political ideologies, which draws on the various political and intellectual movements with origins in the work of theorists of the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution, although socialist historians say they are older. Communism attempts to offer an alternative to the problems believed to be inherent with capitalist economies and the legacy of imperialism and nationalism. Communism states that the only way to solve these problems would be for the working class to replace the wealthy bourgeoisie, which is currently the ruling class, in order to establish a peaceful, free society, without classes, or government. The dominant forms of communism, such as Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism and Trotskyism are based on Marxism, but non-Marxist versions of communism (such as Christian communism and anarchist communism) also exist and are growing in importance since the fall of the Soviet Union. But you kow this of course, and its a proud history to have done this sort of thing, in your eyes, if its so great then go ahead and move to communist China, sorry you don't like non-europeans, try Russia or Serbia or some other country. Azz Hat.
As the saying under your name says: The truth is Irrelevant, probably because you wouldn't know the truth it jackslapped you.
And Bragg, gotta pat ya on tha back for that one, the pot was simmering and you took the insentive to pick up the spoon and stir it :D no wonder I like ya.
BraggSurvivor
08-13-2008, 11:22 AM
Hey Rick, Ive got acres of big sticks. ;) No worries buddy.
Russia does not want to "destroy" or "take over" Georgia. Few Russians have anything against Georgian people. The Russian goal was to eliminate Georgia's and the US's military ability to launch attacks on Russian borders or the secessionist territories, and hopefully discredit the Georgian president enough that he'll be replaced by someone more rational.
You don't need to be a "grand master chess player" to realize that occupying foreign countries in the 21st century brings few benefits and many costs. The colonial era didn't end because the Europeans were militarily defeated in all of them, it ended because there was no economic benefit any longer.
Not true Bragg, well partly not true the military part is true the other is not. It didn't end because of economic value the era didn't magically change over night and the rev war was only ten years later and not much had changed other than trade. Jobs wern't any different, land was scarce so they ventured west into Kan-tuc-ee and sought a better life there.
Wait wait wait! I don't care I don't care! The important thing is that SR continues to believe exactly what he believes about Canada! That's right Sam, you don't want to come here, ever. Stay exactly where you are. USA good, north of 49..baaaddd....
ryaninmichigan
08-13-2008, 12:41 PM
I think this is bigger than what Russia is admitting to. I think they are tired of being in the back seat. WE will not send troops to Georgia to fight Russia. That would be way different than any other conflict we have been in since WWII.
How did Russian tanks get in Atlanta? Why was Georgia attacked and not Mississippi? Because it's harder to spell? "Ya, We take Amerika by going through Miss... Misi... Mrs.... Georgia!" What impact will this have on the other thread about the Confederate Battle Flag? Inquiring minds want to know.
canid
08-13-2008, 06:33 PM
in soviet georgia pretty mouth has you.
BraggSurvivor
08-13-2008, 07:40 PM
How did Russian tanks get in Atlanta? Why was Georgia attacked and not Mississippi? Because it's harder to spell? "Ya, We take Amerika by going through Miss... Misi... Mrs.... Georgia!" What impact will this have on the other thread about the Confederate Battle Flag? Inquiring minds want to know.
Now that there is hilarious! I had a good chuckle.....:D:D:D
Sam Reeves
08-13-2008, 07:50 PM
SR, Russia has a long proud history? Yeah communism is great... pffft.
Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general. It is usually considered to be a branch of socialism but you know that since you hate socialism, a broad group of social and political ideologies, which draws on the various political and intellectual movements with origins in the work of theorists of the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution, although socialist historians say they are older. Communism attempts to offer an alternative to the problems believed to be inherent with capitalist economies and the legacy of imperialism and nationalism. Communism states that the only way to solve these problems would be for the working class to replace the wealthy bourgeoisie, which is currently the ruling class, in order to establish a peaceful, free society, without classes, or government. The dominant forms of communism, such as Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism and Trotskyism are based on Marxism, but non-Marxist versions of communism (such as Christian communism and anarchist communism) also exist and are growing in importance since the fall of the Soviet Union. But you kow this of course, and its a proud history to have done this sort of thing, in your eyes, if its so great then go ahead and move to communist China, sorry you don't like non-europeans, try Russia or Serbia or some other country. Azz Hat.
As the saying under your name says: The truth is Irrelevant, probably because you wouldn't know the truth it jackslapped you.
As I stated, Russia does have a rich history before WWII. I don't why you are trying to give me a history lesson on the Commies. Most government workers do lean towards socialism because they can't make it in the free market. Sound familiar?
BraggSurvivor
08-13-2008, 07:50 PM
WARNING: Very Graphic scenes
http://milkavkaz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=12634#12634
As they say, "Freedom isn't free." It's all a question of who does the paying, of course...
In this case, the people of Ossetia, and the footsoldiers of Georgia (whose bodies are sprawled all over in the photos at the end) did a lot of paying. Saakashvili's still sitting in his palace, though, busily thinking up how to spin this to his advantage. Really, he's like Saddam (who once had US backing), but much better at PR (lying).
Note: Several guys in US Marine digital camo. Interesting.
Sam Reeves
08-13-2008, 07:56 PM
Wait wait wait! I don't care I don't care! The important thing is that SR continues to believe exactly what he believes about Canada! That's right Sam, you don't want to come here, ever. Stay exactly where you are. USA good, north of 49..baaaddd....
Why are so obsessed with me?
I never give you so much as a passing thought until I read posts such as this.
If I wanted to come to Canada you couldn't stop me.
But, yes, I'm happy where I am.
nell67
08-13-2008, 08:01 PM
Why are so obsessed with me? shouldn't there be a "you" in here somewhere?
I never give you so much as a passing thought until I read posts such as this.
If I wanted to come to Canada you couldn't stop me.
But, yes, I'm happy where I am.
Sam,
Don't flatter yourself,no one here is obsessed with you,male or female.Quite the opposite from what I gather.
Sam Reeves
08-13-2008, 08:05 PM
Sam,
Don't flatter yourself,no one here is obsessed with you,male or female.Quite the opposite from what I gather.
Say what you want. I tend to ignore you two. On the other hand I have become a household name with y'all.
I reckon this azz hat has made quite an impact on y'alls life. :cool:
nell67
08-13-2008, 08:08 PM
Obviously you have a hard time ignoring anyone,since you reply to what is posted.
The only impression you leave is not a very good one.
Sam Reeves
08-13-2008, 08:20 PM
Obviously you have a hard time ignoring anyone,since you reply to what is posted.
The only impression you leave is not a very good one.
Why do you have to turn every thread into something about me you and trax? I don't taunt y'all.
nell67
08-13-2008, 08:21 PM
Why do you have to turn every thread into something about me you and trax? I don't taunt y'all.
Where did I turn it into that??
BraggSurvivor
08-13-2008, 08:22 PM
Hmmm, threesome.
nell67
08-13-2008, 08:24 PM
Hmmm, threesome.
Not in a bazillion years dear Bragg,as in never ever,ever would that happen. Shame on you......
Sam Reeves
08-13-2008, 08:25 PM
Where did I turn it into that??
Sam,
Don't flatter yourself,no one here is obsessed with you,male or female.Quite the opposite from what I gather.
SR, blah bah, blah. SR blah, blah, blah....
See what I mean?
Sam Reeves
08-13-2008, 08:26 PM
Hmmm, threesome.
*shivers* LOL
nell67
08-13-2008, 08:28 PM
See what I mean?
Um, well I still don't see what your saying Sam,I did not mention Trax in any of my posts.
Sam Reeves
08-13-2008, 08:29 PM
Um, well I still don't see what your saying Sam,I did not mention Trax in any of my posts.
Even better. You actually responded for him.
Are we done now?
nell67
08-14-2008, 02:45 AM
Even better. You actually responded for him.
Are we done now?
I didn't respond for him,I responded to your post,I can not speak for anyone but myself.
sgtdraino
08-14-2008, 03:36 AM
Bragg - I liked you so much better when you were bbqing and staying out of politics.
Are political discussions allowed here? I'm not clear on this.
crashdive123
08-14-2008, 06:31 AM
Are political discussions allowed here? I'm not clear on this.
No they are not.
(groan) Will it never end? Stop yanking each other's chains and lay off the politics!
bulrush
08-14-2008, 10:14 AM
The T34 tank (the best tank in WW2) was built in a GM tractor plant.
Wow, I didn't know that. I just watched a "Top 10" DVD 2 weeks ago. In the section about tanks, the T34 was either number 2 or 3.
Hmmm, threesome.
LMAO.... lol... now that was funny!!!!
nell67
08-14-2008, 11:54 AM
LMAO.... lol... now that was funny!!!!
Not even big brother.:mad:
Why are so obsessed with me?
I never give you so much as a passing thought until I read posts such as this.
If I wanted to come to Canada you couldn't stop me.
But, yes, I'm happy where I am.
Sam, I wasn't pickin' on you! I was encouraging you to go right on thinking whatever you want to think and I never suggested I'd try to stop you from doing anything. Come on now, let's not bicker.
Hmmm, threesome.
Yeah, I know that's meant as a joke, but I wouldn't say that about anybody in here because really...it's just disrespecting their personal lives on a level that none of us usually stoop to. I'm not saying that for me, Nell's or SR's sake, I'm saying that for everyone.
I'm sorry, your right it really wasn't funny.
OK, what's funny's funny. The gloves just came off.
bulrush
08-15-2008, 08:34 AM
With plenty of oil to fuel their economy, and more NatGas than any other jurisdiction, Russia may be the lone superpower some day soon.
This will never happen. Russian gov't is too corrupted. When you have corruption you have waste and short-term visions. When you have waste and short-term visions, you can't get anything big done. Same thing with Mexico and China.
China's economic success is a temporary blip that might last another 10-20 years. But it's pollution and short-sightedness will catch up with it, much like in America (although America's pollution is not so bad at this point). Also, since China still has trouble controlling its birth rate, it will eventually wind up with lots of starvation for the lower classes and food shortages.
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