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hunter63
08-16-2017, 07:49 PM
Gonna file this under.....Seriously?....Slow news day?
I tried to start fires with bottles and baggies of water....I want to know where they got theirs?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/healthtrending/firefighters-are-warning-people-to-never-leave-bottled-water-in-your-car/ar-AAqcjrM?li=BBnb7Kz

crashdive123
08-16-2017, 09:39 PM
Yeah, that's the story I would have told them if I started a fire in the company truck with one of my cigarette butts.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
08-16-2017, 09:53 PM
It's relatively hard to start a fire with a magnifying glass much less a bottle of water. I keep several bottles of water in my truck all the time, not to mention the gallon jugs in the tool box.

Alan

hunter63
08-16-2017, 10:20 PM
I always have several bottles in the trucks and car all the times.

That was a WTH?.....article.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
08-16-2017, 10:44 PM
yep, I get it.

I have tried to start a fire with my glasses because I'ver read that it can be done. Same with a magnifying glass made of ice. I can never get a pinpoint with my glasses and we don't have ice here. If we have ice it means we don't need fire because the freezer is still running.

Alan

kyratshooter
08-16-2017, 10:57 PM
I picked up a water bottle from the passengers seat of my vehicle yesterday that could have been used on the spot to make hot instant coffee!

I was retrieving my EDC pistol from the center console and it was too hot to touch even inside the closed compartment. My engineering classes came to mind and I remembered 160 is the comfort point for human touch.

Can't touch it? It is hotter than 160.

Made me wonder how hot a cartridge has to get for a cook-off. Much hotter than 150-160 degrees I am sure.

Phaedrus
08-17-2017, 02:33 AM
Interesting. I think the comfort level for liquid is a bit lower. I've found most people can't tolerate water much hotter than 130-133 F for more than a few seconds (and I'll note that a couple houses ago I lived in a place where the water coming out of the hot water tap was 135).

Graf
08-17-2017, 05:54 AM
Year round I have 4 bottles of water in my vehicle never been a issue, BS meter going off

Phaedrus
08-18-2017, 12:23 AM
I'm sure they can cause a fire. I haven't done it but I've seen water used to light tinder in that manner. It would take some dumb luck to have it happen in your car but it could happen. But instead of taking water out of the car I'd simply cover the bottles or leave them in the trunk. Problem solved, problem stayin' solved!

hunter63
08-18-2017, 12:49 AM
Paper ignition point of paper ignites at around 480 degrees Fahrenheit, +/- type.
for an estimate:
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/explainer/2012/06/ray_bradbury_death_does_paper_really_burn_at_451_d egrees_fahrenheit_.html

I think the odds are that you may be hit by lightning, before having a bottle of water. or a round "cook off"

Phaedrus
08-18-2017, 02:15 AM
Hmmm...I dunno, Slate. If paper burns at 480 F then why did Ray Bradbury write "458 Degrees Fahrenheit"?:detective::devil2: Again, probably unlikely but you can verify for yourself that it's possible.

Rick
08-18-2017, 07:50 AM
The good news is if a bottle of water starts a fire then the fire will melt the plastic bottle and the water will put out the fire. Isn't the circle of life amazing?

JohnLeePettimore
08-18-2017, 09:21 AM
My engineering classes came to mind and I remembered 160 is the comfort point for human touch.

Can't touch it? It is hotter than 160.


That sounds a bit high to me, too.

Also, it's the temperature you FEEL, not the temperature of the object, that determines the comfort level. This is called the "contact temperature", and it depends on the specific heat, the density, and the thermal conductivity of the object you are holding. Wood and metal objects at the same temperature feel like they are different temperatures. It's actually the rate of heat flow that you feel, not the temperature. If heat is flowing into your skin, it feels warm. if heat is flowing out of your skin, it feels cold. That's why lukewarm water feels hot when your hand is real cold.

hunter63
08-18-2017, 10:59 AM
Hmmm...I dunno, Slate. If paper burns at 480 F then why did Ray Bradbury write "458 Degrees Fahrenheit"?:detective::devil2: Again, probably unlikely but you can verify for yourself that it's possible.

Anything is possible on the interwebs.....

crashdive123
08-18-2017, 08:28 PM
This comes to mind.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo