Gasoline

[Tahyo]

If someone would have told me that I'd be paying over 10 bucks to fill a freaking 3 gallon gas can for my lawnmowers, I would have laughed at this years ago.

Was watching the news and there are trucking companies just getting out of the business left and right lately.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

[Chuck]

It doesn't look like things will be getting better any time some. We got a load in January then another in late March the price went up $50.00 for 180 gallon load, the cost was all fuel the flying was the same. I dread thinking about next falls fuel costs.

[wildWoman]

That's just the way things are bound to go when the entire economy of the world and lifestyles in the west are completely founded on a non-renewable, finite resource. Can't accuse humankind of being smart!
On the positive side, people managed to live on this planet without plastic and burning gasoline for 99.99999999999% or so of our existence. So how bad can the "crisis" be....?

[Tahyo]

You do have a point there wildwoman.

[Ken]

We have a hugh supply of fuel ready for the taking. The guy who controls it has practically been begging us to go and get it. It's about 30 miles off the west coast of Aruba.

[Rick]

I thin you are a berry bad man, senior. My berry good friend, Hugo, I thin he does not like you so berry much.

We have (projected) about 125-150 years of petroleum reserves left. That doesn't mean it will be easy to extract or cheap. Peak production is expected to top out in 2037 with a rapid decline in production into 2125. Let's hope we've figured something sensible out before 2037.

Source:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/feature_articles/2004/worldoilsupply/oilsupply04.html

[Alpine_Sapper]

That's just the way things are bound to go when the entire economy of the world and lifestyles in the west are completely founded on a non-renewable, finite resource. Can't accuse humankind of being smart!
On the positive side, people managed to live on this planet without plastic and burning gasoline for 99.99999999999% or so of our existence. So how bad can the "crisis" be....?

Not that bad. Only a complete restructureing of the way that, oh, about 6 billion people or so are used to doing things. And no one on here can say they won't be affected. At least something you use on a regular basis is a plastic right? How many things do you have that burn gasoline? Diesel? It's going to affect everyone, some more than others. But if you're using diesel as your source of energy, how bad can the crisis be when it hits $10 a gallon?

[grundle]

At least with Diesel engines you aren't restricted to Petroleum. You can literally grow your own fuel if necessary...

[crashdive123]

Being in the "service industry" rising gas prices are certainly taking their toll. Raising prices on the service then (for me at least) becomes a delicate balance. If I don't raise them, profits disappear...raise them too much, customers disappear. It causes everybody to make adjustments.

[Flavor Bear]

If someone would have told me that I'd be paying over 10 bucks to fill a freaking 3 gallon gas can for my lawnmowers, I would have laughed at this years ago.


Wow, where are you getting that extra half gallon? I'm only getting 2.5 for 10 bucks.

[Tahyo]

Wow, where are you getting that extra half gallon? I'm only getting 2.5 for 10 bucks.

Rounded off the numbers. It was like 2.6+ gallons at 3.96 a gallon. It was just over 10 bucks.

[Flavor Bear]

Rounded off the numbers. It was like 2.6+ gallons at 3.96 a gallon. It was just over 10 bucks.

Well anyway, what I've spent on gasoline in the last 3 days has convinced me to dig out that old bicycle and rig it up with a basket.

[Tahyo]

I think plenty of folks are going to start adjusting life styles. I'm watching a scenario across the street where a couple in their late 20s or early 30s came into just enough money to think they were going to live on ez street. They ran out, bought 2 brand new gas hog SUVs, splurged on some other things and now they are having problems making ends meet. I'm watching this tragedy unfold almost on a daily basis.

[Rick]

For those that have been managing their finances all along I don't think this is going to be a life changing situation. For those that have let their finances manage them this is going to be a horrible life experience. Just like your two friends that came into money. It's an expensive life lesson that can take a life time to correct.

[Sourdough]

Tahyo, people here are selling livestock because of feed cost. And Pets like horses, are being sold off or given away. It is a great time to be starting a Farm. This year geese, next year hogs, chickens, goats..........Yum:)

Oil just closed at $127.32 per Barrel. With Memorial Day coming up I am guessing $130.00 by Friday.

[Flavor Bear]

Having a goat certainly does save money that would otherwise have to be spent on gas for the mower.
Wouldn't eat him though. Couldn't eat something that nuzzles against you when you go to slice its throat.

[Tahyo]

hopeak,
My brother has raised cattle in Texas for as long as I can remember. He's selling off just about all his cattle except for what he needs to maintain beef for himself. A lot of ranchers can't afford the fertilizer for the hay fields. He said that there is a fairly good chance there will be a glutney of beef on the market in the future and then the price is probably going to go up. Not too sure how accurate that is, but I still have other family members in s.w. La. that have raised cattle all their lives and they are thinning the herds out more than they use to over the same issues.

[Ole WV Coot]

We have a hugh supply of fuel ready for the taking. The guy who controls it has practically been begging us to go and get it. It's about 30 miles off the west coast of Aruba.

Seems a shame letting it go to waste. I think we ought to take it off their hands and give it a better home. Those '50s cars are about gone so they don't need it anyway. We could send all the illegals home and not let them back without a few barrels. What we have here is a breakdown of communication between us and them. I would hate to ruin their social life in that other part of the world by holding their camels for ransom.:rolleyes:

[wildWoman]

Not that bad. Only a complete restructureing of the way that, oh, about 6 billion people or so are used to doing things. And no one on here can say they won't be affected. At least something you use on a regular basis is a plastic right? How many things do you have that burn gasoline? Diesel? It's going to affect everyone, some more than others. But if you're using diesel as your source of energy, how bad can the crisis be when it hits $10 a gallon?

Of course I have stuff made out of plastic and burn fuel, too. I suspect our way to the supermarket and hardware store is longer and more complicated than most people's. But it's 100% up to me to make the choice of what and how much I buy, if I buy it second hand, how I get it here, if I want to use alternative methods to get around, store food, power my laptop etc.

The thing is, not a single person in the western world is forced into the lifestyle they occupy by anything other than their own, personal choices. Lobby-group sponsored governments and lobby-group sponsored media would have us believe that buying things is what makes us happy. I'd guess we all know that that's not true, but we're driven by our caveman greed to always get the newest gadgets because at one time it meant a greater chance at survival.
People get discouraged to think outside of the box because to much thinking outside the lines by too many people can be a threat to the rulers of society.

It is possible to live simply, and you don't have to go way into the woods for it, on a few thousand bucks a year. The simpler you live and the less you buy, the less money you need, the fewer resources you comsume, the less time you have to spend at work, the more time and freedom you have for doing the things that actually mean something to you.

People are scared of making changes in their lives because there's no guarantee about the outcome. But at points in time, changes get forced on people by circumstances anyway and, adaptable creatures that we are, somehow or other we carry on. If the lobby and money controlled "democratic" governments don't make smart choices, it still leaves room for each and every person to choose where and how they live. And that includes how dependent one is on oil - or not.

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