advice and/or tips on buy property

[commoguy]

i figure i should start learning what to look for and what not. eventually i will be buying some property hopefully i can retire on but little steps first. any tips or things i should be aware of? im looking to buy about a 100 acres. i want trees lots and lots of trees

[Sourdough]

There is a good book: "Finding and Buying your place in the Country"

But mostly what you need is money.

[Rick]

Where do you want to buy?

[commoguy]

Where do you want to buy?

honestly wherever there are lots of trees, and acreage priced to something i can afford without putting my kidneys up for sale on ebay

[Sourdough]

The cheapest land is going to be where no one else wants to be. Place's like Siberia, Russia.

[RobertRogers]

If you are looking for good survival/SHTF property a good healthy swamp, of course with some buildable land, is excellent. Swamps = food, protection, water...

[Omid]

I am looking for some land too
what you want is to be near deer. Preferably high land.a lake is a great thing if its on the property.

[crashdive123]

I don't have any tips on what and where to buy - that is pretty much going to be a personal preference thing. I will offer this - don't over extend yourself to do it. You wouldn't want to create a situation that you are preparing to avoid by doing it.

How much time left in the Army? When I was on active duty there were quite a few guys buying plots of land that they had no intention on building on for quite a while. That was a long time ago. Now some of them have some pretty nice homesteads.

[Sourdough]

I am looking for some land too
what you want is to be near deer. Preferably high land.a lake is a great thing if its on the property.

Lucky for us that you and I are the only two humans on the planet EARTH, looking for High land, with a private lake, and lots of deer, nice view, good fishing, very private access, with a good pure water well that is only 40' deep, This land should be inside a national park that is closed to the public, there should be trout jumping in the private lake, and all the bears should be nice bears. One elk or moose per year should kill and butcher it's self and jump into the freeze, there should be a magic garden that never needs "WORK" and has a year around bounty......And I would be willing to pay $500.00 total for this exclusive, private, secluded, but accessible 300 acres. with a nice 4- bedroom, 3 bath, 2,800 Sq. Ft. Log Home......:):):)

[Rick]

Actually, I'm looking for high deer on private land with lots of lakes.

[Sourdough]

Actually, I'm looking for high deer on private land with lots of lakes.


See, See, Now there is only three of us.

[Sourdough]

Ooop's I forgot I need a waterfalls, and swans and geese and wood ducks in the lake, or it is no deal......

[Rick]

My needs were listed a bit differently than yours.

[Sourdough]

OK, OK, I guess we need a 5 acres field of Marijuana that we can burn so Ricks, Deer get "HIGH".........:):):)

[DOGMAN]

Commonguy, I wrote this for another guy looking for property....

Try to find a place that tourist don't go, and places far enough away from urban areas that people can't commute to work. Also, look for areas that don't have any large commericial airports with in a 2 hour drive- that way hobby farmers or ranchers can't have a place there because it is to inconvient. North Dakota comes to mind, Eastern Montana, Eastern Wyoming. Eastern Washington. Parts of Arkansas and Missouri are very nice. THere are lots of options just look for the criteria I mentioned- heck, you may even find someone willing to give you some land in some "undesireable" areas. A great web resource is http://www.backwoodshome.com/index.html

Also, take Crash's advice and don't over extend yourself. Look long and hard for your land, and figure out how you can support yourself there- before you buy.

[Rick]

What do you hope to accomplish with this land? Do you want just a retirement property? Something that is away from the beaten crowd? A retreat for TSHTF? You need to determine what the land will be used for.

[Sourdough]

I want real wonderful land real, real cheap, from someone real, real stupid who does not know the value of what he has. Basically I want to transfer his wealth from him to me.

This is what people mean when they want good land for cheap.

The problem is that land owners are not stupid. So you end up with a guy with land who Say's, "I ain't trading my land for those few nearly worthless Dollars, I'll just keep my land, it is real, it is not fake, and unlike U.S. Dollars God ain't making more land 24/7".

What is more valuable Good Land or Paper Money?........:rolleyes:

[Rick]

Hopeak, please send me all your worthless paper money. I'll see to it that it is disposed of properly. This has been a public service announcement.

[Sourdough]

I'll buy your GOLD for $388.- per oz. and I will trade you some much prettier multicolored U.S. Dollars.

[Rick]

I don't horde gold, Hopeak. It's just another metal than has been assigned an arbitrary price. Someone will decide it needs to be devalued so they will set a price of $30 an ounce.:D

[commoguy]

What do you hope to accomplish with this land? Do you want just a retirement property? Something that is away from the beaten crowd? A retreat for TSHTF? You need to determine what the land will be used for.

actually all 3 but mostly 1 and 2. as for how long i have left in the army i have slightly under 2 years i just reenlisted. i dont plan on overextending myself which is why im asking for advice (as most of you own land). when i say cheap i dont necessarily mean that but i do want to know when someone is asking to much or when to jump on a deal. i understand this will vary regionally.

[Rick]

You probably need to decide where you want to retire. There are seven states that don't charge a state income tax. They are Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming. Additionally, New Hampshire and Tennessee limit their state income taxes to dividends and interest income only. That can make a big difference in the amount of money you keep in your pocket. That's one of the reasons seniors like Florida so well. Not only is it a warm climate but they aren't paying a state income tax.

You'll also want to know what the real estate and/or Personal Property tax rates are in any state you choose to retire in. And don't forget to find out if they offer a Homestead Exemption on the real estate tax.

And...you'll want to know where your closest VA Hospital and PX is. I understand PX privileges have sort of gone south but you medical insurance is certainly a consideration.

[Sourdough]

actually all 3 but mostly 1 and 2. as for how long i have left in the army i have slightly under 2 years i just reenlisted. i dont plan on overextending myself which is why im asking for advice (as most of you own land). when i say cheap i dont necessarily mean that but i do want to know when someone is asking to much or when to jump on a deal. i understand this will vary regionally.

The short answer is you will never know......100%

I get $300.00 an hour as a expert witness on real estate matters. I do consulting on real estate for a few international corporations. And I have made and sorry to say lost millions of dollars buying and selling land, office buildings, warehouses, strip centers, etc. but mostly raw land. I have been doing it 41 years.

I repeat: you will never know when the bottom is in.

Step one: get 100% clear what you want. not 90% and wishie'washie on the other 10%.

Step two: start shopping that location, "NOT BUYING, ONLY SHOPPING".

Most people never get to step two, in fact most people never complete step one, most people stay in a wishie'washie dream wishful hoping.

I have a Real Estate Company in rural Alaska, and every Monday I deal with the wishie'washie-dreamers from Anchorage, Alaska who drive down the Hope Road on the sunny weekend, and on Monday call me. Ten times a day on Monday and three to six times a day on non-Mondays.

Get clear what you want, where you want it, and what you have to trade, Money, labor, other Real Estate, a large boat, I do some exchange work, and the first question is what do you have and what do you want.

Reread my smart-arse posts #9 and #17 this is where most peoples head is, yes it is a cruel mockery but it is accurate.

[crashdive123]

Sage advice. Good to have a map to plan your journey.

[Sourdough]

Good to think befor buying property that you need a chained up 6X6 to get to. So I just backed 100# of oats up the mountain in my Kelty External frame pack. Tomorrow another 100# then a day of rest. Old age sucks........:rolleyes:

In two weeks the logging road will be Military 6X6 useable, but the oats need out tomorrow. Just one more thing to think about in buying dream property.

[Rick]

Just keep repeating this as you hoss the oats up the mountain....Better over the hill than under it.:D

[Sourdough]

I keep repeating......."If i had known that I would live this long, I would have taken better care of my body the first 60 years"......:p

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