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Tahyo
04-25-2008, 06:28 PM
And so it begins. Bragg and I apparently had the same idea for the weekend and that's to smoke some pork butts/shoulders. I got mine rubbed down this afternoon and will let them set till around 4 or 5 tomorrow and then I'll pop them in the smoker for about 16 hours.

Here's a couple pictures of my start. A picture of one rubbed down and the other are both rubbed and bagged till tomorrow.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m277/cpaulsb/Forums%20and%20Message%20Boards/pork_01.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m277/cpaulsb/Forums%20and%20Message%20Boards/pork_02.jpg

I did links to the pics so those with slow connects wouldn't get their bandwidth robbed.

BraggSurvivor
04-25-2008, 06:35 PM
Are you gonna make me pluck mine outta the fridge? OK, I'll yankem.

They look great!

BraggSurvivor
04-25-2008, 06:44 PM
Sorry Tahyo, my wife told me to get the hell out of her kitchen......and take my meat slicer with me. :( I'll take a pic in a couple hours when she's done.

Tahyo
04-25-2008, 06:49 PM
Oh, take your time Bragg... no hurry. I'm sure yours are just as purty as these.

I rubbed mine down with a quick rub of kosher salt, black and white pepper, sweet paprika, cayenne, white and brown sugar.

BraggSurvivor
04-25-2008, 07:44 PM
I don't know buddy, I might have to postpone till tomorrow morning.......started snowing like a buggar again, not suppose to let up. I might have to move the cook to the quonset kitchen. :(


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Bructer/DSC00735.jpg

Tahyo
04-25-2008, 07:50 PM
Hey, late is better than never when it comes to some good pork.

BraggSurvivor
04-25-2008, 07:54 PM
Yea, I'll fire up in the morning. Wife is just about to leave so I'll just get up in the morning and haul the Egg to the quonset with the tractor. At lest I'll be dry.

BraggSurvivor
04-25-2008, 08:09 PM
Brine:
Molasses, Pickling Salt, Well/Bottled Water,


Rub:
Celery Seeds, Garlic Powder, Sea Salt, Dry Mustard, Fresh Ground Black Peppercorns, Mild Paprika, Dehydrated Onion Flakes, Hot Paprika, Kosher Salt, Firmly packed Light Brown Sugar

Ive used this combo for years.

Tahyo
04-25-2008, 08:18 PM
Sometimes I use a rub, sometimes I don't. This time I kept it very light. There's been a couple times when I've marinated a smaller butt in apple cider over night. I have to do that one again.

BraggSurvivor
04-25-2008, 08:33 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Bructer/prepcr.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Bructer/rubcr.jpg

BraggSurvivor
04-25-2008, 08:35 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Bructer/wrapcr.jpg

Tahyo
04-25-2008, 08:36 PM
Mighty fine looking pieces of meat. Nice fat caps on those.

BraggSurvivor
04-25-2008, 08:40 PM
Thanks, her name was daisy, my daughter Mary's pig from last year.

Aurelius95
04-25-2008, 10:12 PM
While Bragg may be postponing his "smoke out" due to snow, I was wet wading in the Chattahoochee today! Georgia has great weather this time of year, but by July, I will be wishing I lived up where you are, Bragg!

By the way, do you use the Green Egg for this type of smoking? I know you all have different sorts, but wanted to know how you'd be doing it.

Gracias

BraggSurvivor
04-26-2008, 12:25 AM
Yes, this will go on the Egg for about 11-12 hours at 215-250 degrees. I will start caramelize the outside at the 10th hour after smoking is done.

dilligaf2u2
04-26-2008, 08:53 AM
I hate you both / In a good way! So where is my invite to the feast!

Looks like I best get my pork out of the freezer this weekend.

I do not have a smoker but the oven can do a good job.

Don

Tahyo
04-26-2008, 10:47 AM
How's the weather holding for you today Bragg? It's pretty windy here today so I'm hoping it settles down before this evening. It's just harder to keep my temperature maintained when we have this much wind.

Tahyo
04-26-2008, 10:50 AM
I hate you both / In a good way! So where is my invite to the feast!

Looks like I best get my pork out of the freezer this weekend.

I do not have a smoker but the oven can do a good job.

Don

Don, I've done pork shoulders in the oven as well, although it won't come out quite like if it were in a smoker. Just put it in a pan, set the heat for 225 and let her rip till the internal temp on the pork butt/shoulder is about 185/190. I usually cover mine on and off and raise it up off the bottom of the pan a little bit.
Takes about 12 to 16 hours last I remember.

BraggSurvivor
04-26-2008, 10:54 AM
It's great man, -10 and sunny but suppose to get to a high of +11 today. Things will be melting fast. I moved the Egg to the quonset at 6am and the pork is in the smoker. The smell is attracting my work dogs from the barn. I gave them the "look" and they headed back. I will treat them tonight. I will set the Guru on the Egg and head to Calgary because my parts are in from Harley and that will give me something to do today.

Hows everything there?

Tahyo
04-26-2008, 11:00 AM
It's great man, -10 and sunny but suppose to get to a high of +11 today. Things will be melting fast. I moved the Egg to the quonset at 6am and the pork is in the smoker. The smell is attracting my work dogs from the barn. I gave them the "look" and they headed back. I will treat them tonight. I will set the Guru on the Egg and head to Calgary because my parts are in from Harley and that will give me something to do today.

Hows everything there?


Windy, 50s and overcast, but no rain/snow. I'll put the meat on later today. I just finished loading up the wood box with hickory and apple wood chunks. I'm about to slide out of here in a few myself. Catch you laters.

Rick
04-26-2008, 04:23 PM
One of you guys, Tahyo or Bragg, posted a pic with a thermometer in the pic. I can't find it but it allowed you to read both the internal temp. of the meat and the surface temp. of the meat. What brand was it and where did you buy it?

Tahyo
04-26-2008, 04:29 PM
One of you guys, Tahyo or Bragg, posted a pic with a thermometer in the pic. I can't find it but it allowed you to read both the internal temp. of the meat and the surface temp. of the meat. What brand was it and where did you buy it?

Let me find it Rick, give me a few minutes. Not sure if it was me or Bragg, but I do use one.

Tahyo
04-26-2008, 04:31 PM
This is the one I use. I can't remember where I got it. I've had it for about 5 or 6 years now.

http://www.poldertest.com/894-90.html

Rick
04-26-2008, 04:44 PM
That will work!! I didn't realize they made two sensors in the same probe. That's great. I need one for my smoker. Otherwise is like using a crystal ball. Thanks!!!!!!!

Tahyo
04-26-2008, 05:33 PM
First picture is knocking the chill off the meat and letting the outside moisture dry off. I have a little fan (not seen).
Second pic is "MEAT'S ON". 16 hours to go

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m277/cpaulsb/Forums%20and%20Message%20Boards/pork_03.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m277/cpaulsb/Forums%20and%20Message%20Boards/pork_04.jpg

Alpine_Sapper
04-26-2008, 05:42 PM
First picture is knocking the chill off the meat and letting the outside moisture dry off. I have a little fan (not seen).
Second pic is "MEAT'S ON". 16 hours to go



What temp you doing those on man?

Tahyo
04-26-2008, 05:45 PM
For about the first 6 hours the I keep the inside of the smoker about 180 degrees while the smoke is going, then after that I try to keep the temp about 210-225.

Rick
04-26-2008, 06:06 PM
I thought you didn't use water in your smoker? Am I wrong? It looks like the pan has water in it.

Tahyo
04-26-2008, 06:07 PM
No water in that pan. It's just a drip pan.

Tahyo
04-26-2008, 06:10 PM
Bragg has a good set up with that BGE. Correct me if I'm wrong Bragg, but the drippings off the meat fall in the fire? If so, man, you can't beat that flavor.

Rick
04-26-2008, 06:16 PM
Must be the angle of the camera.

If I remove the water pan from mine, drippings will drop directly onto the smoking wood.

Tahyo
04-26-2008, 06:22 PM
Just be careful Rick. Some flare ups are o.k., but if it makes your fire hotter over time and you're trying to keep that temperature stable it may not be good. That smoking cabinet I'm using is propane with a big iron wood box that sits over the flame. If I took that drip pan away, I'd probably have a fire, and at minimal a pretty big mess.

BraggSurvivor
04-26-2008, 07:42 PM
Bragg has a good set up with that BGE. Correct me if I'm wrong Bragg, but the drippings off the meat fall in the fire? If so, man, you can't beat that flavor.

Yes, your correct. I use a ceramic plate setter for the first 4 hours to catch the majority of the dripping. The dripping basically burn up without hitting the coals. After four hours, I let it drip away.

I'll post some "smoking porno pics" once the color is just right. ;)

Tahyo
04-26-2008, 09:49 PM
Smoking like crazy now.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m277/cpaulsb/Forums%20and%20Message%20Boards/Pork-05.jpg

BraggSurvivor
04-26-2008, 10:07 PM
Lookin good Tahyo!

Interesting you put fat caps up. Ive always put the caps down so the grease doesn't drip my rub off. I feel it also doesn't allow fat to get into the meat and allowing lard to form when cooled. Looks nice and shiny. What internal are you trying to achieve? Do you pull when finished or allow to cool and then pull?

I'm trying the two with bones at 135 degrees and the two solids I'm trying for 140 internal.

BraggSurvivor
04-26-2008, 10:17 PM
About two hours to go!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Bructer/Bructer1.jpg

Tahyo
04-26-2008, 10:24 PM
Lookin good Tahyo!

Interesting you put fat caps up. Ive always put the caps down so the grease doesn't drip my rub off. I feel it also doesn't allow fat to get into the meat and allowing lard to form when cooled. Looks nice and shiny. What internal are you trying to achieve? Do you pull when finished or allow to cool and then pull?

I'm trying the two with bones at 135 degrees and the two solids I'm trying for 140 internal.

I've always put the fat caps up so that it "self bastes". I never really worried too much about the seasoning getting taken off. Most of it comes off anyway regardless of the fat cap as there is a lot of fat to render in those bad boys to begin with.
I shoot for an internal temp of 185 - 190 and then I take off, wrap in tin foil and usually toss in a cooler for a few hours. It's going to continue to cook a bit after you take it off.
When it comes time to pull it, I'll pull it in big chunks, season it with salt and pepper only and leave in big chunks till time to make sandwiches. That's when I'll chop it up in smaller pieces and pour either my cider vinegar, brown sugar, butter and red pepper flake sauce on or I'll put on a sandwich and use the other sauce that I think is great on pork sandwiches and baby back ribs. Sometimes I don't even put sauce on it, I'll just sit down with a plate of pork, some beans and cole slaw and get full as a tick.

I'll post finished pics tomorrow. I'm calling it a day on the computer. I can't wait to see yours.

Tahyo
04-26-2008, 10:25 PM
I posted my last post before I saw your pics. Man.. that's good looking!!!

BraggSurvivor
04-26-2008, 10:29 PM
All I can say is a treadmill will be in order on Monday. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Bructer/eatdrink061.gif

BraggSurvivor
04-26-2008, 11:31 PM
I turn the dampers off at 135-140 degrees because it will continue to cook. I don't actually pull it off the Egg for hours as the ceramics retain the heat and cool very very slowly. Before the Egg I would wrap in tinfoil and towels and chuck into the cooler as well.

Ive tried the caps both ways and I don't think there is a wrong or right way.

I will post a pic after I pull one of these bad boyz.

Rick
04-27-2008, 07:59 AM
That's when I'll chop it up in smaller pieces ...

How do you pull yours? I haven't found an easy way short or eating my way through it.:D

Do you just chop it up with a cleaver (whatever) or do you pull it?

Tahyo
04-27-2008, 09:19 AM
Rick, When you cook pork butts/shoulders to an internal temp of 185 - 190, it will almost fall apart. The first thing I do is get the bone out, then try to get any fat out that didn't render. After that, when I use two forks, mainly cause the meat is still hot, and get it out in chunks. When time to chop some for sandwiches I use a 10" Chef's knife. You can use a meat cleaver and I have a really nice Chinese cleaver that will shave whiskers, but I use the Chef's knife. I'll take a couple pictures later today when I start tearing it up.

After 15.5 hours over night, this is what I woke up to this morning. I got up about 4 times last night just to make sure my temp. stayed where I wanted it and it stayed right at 220 degrees almost all night with hardly any adjustment.
Rick, look in the bottom of that drip pan. That's what rendered out of the meat.
(yes, that's a "test piece" missing out of that left one. The dog and I shared that)

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m277/cpaulsb/Forums%20and%20Message%20Boards/pork_06.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m277/cpaulsb/Forums%20and%20Message%20Boards/pork_07.jpg

Rick
04-27-2008, 09:32 AM
Man! Those things look great. Nice job.

I've used the two fork method in the past but didn't chop 'em up. I'll try that on the next one I smoke.

I may just remove the water pan and drop an aluminum drip pan in it's place. I can set it on the lower rack. The way my smoker is design my smoker the renderings drip into the water pan, which can be a mess to clean up.

Tahyo
04-27-2008, 09:38 AM
Rick, just be careful with the drip pan. If it's too close to the coals and the rendered fat gets to bubbling/smoldering, then your meat is going to take on a taste you don't want. If that's the case, and you can't stop it, then stick with the water in that pan.

Tahyo
04-27-2008, 11:24 AM
Pulled into chunks. After I took this picture, I poured that pot of vinegar sauce all over it. Later on I'll "as needed" and chop up for sandwiches. I'll give some of this to my oldest son, send 2 sandwiches down the street to my one neighbor who called me last night when he smelled what was going on and then the rest of it I'll separate into bags and vacuum seal to toss in the freezer. Unless I have company, the wife and I will eat off of this for quite a while. I tend to pig out on the stuff the day I make it, but eat it every once in a while after that. I love pork too much but at this age it won't love me back.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m277/cpaulsb/Forums%20and%20Message%20Boards/pork_08.jpg

Tahyo
04-27-2008, 11:40 AM
Bragg, if I'm reading your post right, you are pulling the pork off at lower temperatures than I am? If so, you are slicing it up?

BraggSurvivor
04-27-2008, 11:57 AM
I just got out of bed, left the meat in the Egg all night and had every critter for twenty miles coming around. Could here the coyots yapping and driving my dogs nuts. I was too lazy to go to the barn at 3 am to bring the meat into the house. I waiting for a neighbor this morning to help me load a steer into the trailer, shipping him off for a week to a local 4H club to do training. When I get back I'll pull this meat and take pics.

Rick
04-27-2008, 12:05 PM
Tahyo - I know you'll find this very hard to believe but I was logged on about 3:00 a.m. and I also smelled the meat cooking. No, really I did. It was really really strong, too. So you'll need to send 4 sandwiches my way.......along with some of the sauce, please.:rolleyes:

mbarnatl
04-27-2008, 01:55 PM
That would keep me up all night just smelling that cooking. Just looking at the pics is making my mouth water.

Aurelius95
04-27-2008, 02:30 PM
In a post about crusty bread a few weeks ago, Crashdive said he waits an hour for the bread to cool before eating. My response was, "how can you wait an hour and not go crazy?". This would be much more difficult!

Great pics, guys, thanks for sharing.

Rick
04-27-2008, 03:33 PM
Tahyo - Back on post 37 you said


That's when I'll chop it up in smaller pieces and pour either my cider vinegar, brown sugar, butter and red pepper flake sauce on or I'll put on a sandwich and use the other sauce that I think is great on pork sandwiches and baby back ribs.

What's the "other sauce"?

Tahyo
04-27-2008, 03:41 PM
The other sauce is a tangy catsup based sauce I found years ago. It's great on pork, but louzy on beef things. Here's the recipe for both. It's not a secret or anything and I've been using it for about 30 years.

Single Recipe

1 cup of catsup
1/2 cup +1 TBSP of Cider Vinegar
1/4 cup of Worchestire sauce
1/3 cup of dark brown sugar
1 heaping TBSP of cornstarch (sometimes I don't put much cornstarch if I don't want it thick)
2 tsp of steak sauce
Cayenne and Black pepper and salt to taste.

Put it all in a pot and slow simmer very low heat for 45 minutes stirring often to make sure it does not scorch. I always mix the cornstarch with the vinegar while it's cold so it disolves and then pour in the pot. I triple this recipe up and put in an empty clean plastic catsup bottle. Real nice to squirt out and it'll keep a long time in the ice box. If you do double or triple the recipe, leave the cornstarch at the same amount as above. After you make it a few times you'll know the consistency you want and can adjust it. I use a metal wisk to stir this so it smoothes out any lumps.

I usually multiply this recipe and make batches to put in mason jars for the summer.

Pulled pork finishing sauce

INGREDIENTS:

* 1 cup cider vinegar
* 2 tablespoons salt
* 1 tablespoon brown sugar
* 1 teaspoon cayenne (more or less to taste)
* 1 teaspoon red pepper flakes (or more to taste)
* 2 tablespoons of real butter

PREPARATION:
Mix all ingredients together. simmer real low till butter melts, then just let it sit for a while with the fire off. Re-heat just a little bit before using.

Rick
04-27-2008, 03:45 PM
Thanks!! Sounds great.

BraggSurvivor
04-28-2008, 05:59 PM
Bragg, if I'm reading your post right, you are pulling the pork off at lower temperatures than I am? If so, you are slicing it up?

I shut the tampers off at at a lower temp and let it rest in the Egg until the next day at 1:30 when I got home from hauling steers. All in all it was in the Egg for 18 hours. I washed up and pulled pork for 3.5 hours. I ate so much when pulling I didnt eat supper that night. Fed 18 people last night with pulled pork on a homemade buns with homemade BBQ sauce. Side dishes were black pork and beans with noodle and raisin salad.

Sorry Tahyo, I was so busy Sunday with the cows, kids, company, wife getting back and rushing to prep this food for all the people, I didnt take pics!

Whats next?

Tahyo
04-28-2008, 06:20 PM
I shut the tampers off at at a lower temp and let it rest in the Egg until the next day at 1:30 when I got home from hauling steers. All in all it was in the Egg for 18 hours. I washed up and pulled pork for 3.5 hours. I ate so much when pulling I didnt eat supper that night. Fed 18 people last night with pulled pork on a homemade buns with homemade BBQ sauce. Side dishes were black pork and beans with noodle and raisin salad.

Sorry Tahyo, I was so busy Sunday with the cows, kids, company, wife getting back and rushing to prep this food for all the people, I didnt take pics!

Whats next?


That's o.k. on the pictures. After eating all that pork yesterday I need a break from it for a while. I made a pot of pinto beans with hamhocks, and cole slaw for sides. The left overs I vacuum sealed and froze but not before almost hurting myself eating all that stuff. I'm my own worst enemy when it comes to bbq.

Not sure what I'm doing next. I'm watching Sam's Club to see if either baby back ribs or maybe even some beef ribs go on sale. If I get either of those, I'll do on my barrel pit. Takes about 2 hours give or take on the baby backs, maybe about the same on the beef ribs. I like doing the beef ribs with a good bark on them.
I tried to get in a 2 mile walk today but managed 1 mile before it started raining.

crashdive123
04-28-2008, 06:50 PM
I just got out of bed, left the meat in the Egg all night and had every critter for twenty miles coming around. Could here the coyots yapping and driving my dogs nuts. I was too lazy to go to the barn at 3 am to bring the meat into the house. I waiting for a neighbor this morning to help me load a steer into the trailer, shipping him off for a week to a local 4H club to do training. When I get back I'll pull this meat and take pics.

Bragg - that wasn't a coyote driving your dogs crazy......it was me:D

Rick
05-04-2008, 01:17 PM
Tahyo - What kind of a rub do you have on the pork in post #25?

Tahyo
05-04-2008, 01:49 PM
Tahyo - What kind of a rub do you have on the pork in post #25?

I went really really light this time on the rub. I mixed up a little kosher salt, fresh ground black pepper, white pepper, a little cayenne pepper, sweet paprika, brown sugar and some ground cumin. If you look at my very first post with the links, you'll see just how sparse I put the rub on. I wanted to taste the meat this time with barely a hint of the rub. Sometimes I think "caking" on the rub distracts from the flavor of the meat, especially pork.

One other thing... If you are going to slow smoke baby back ribs and are going to put a rub on those, you can first rub down the ribs with good old yellow mustard before you put the rub on. It will make it stick better and in the end you will never taste the mustard. Just make sure that you are slow cooking them if you do use it.

Rick
05-04-2008, 02:48 PM
Do you just use in amounts to your taste or do you have a recipe?

I'm going to put on a pork shoulder next week-end and thought I'd try your rub.

Tahyo
05-04-2008, 03:39 PM
Do you just use in amounts to your taste or do you have a recipe?

I'm going to put on a pork shoulder next week-end and thought I'd try your rub.

Sorry took so long to reply, was outside.


Are you only doing one pork shoulder? And is it a "shoulder" you are doing or a "butt"?

At least 8 hours before, 12 or 14 hours would be better. This is for a light rub. Just double or triple for however much you need.
For one butt/shoulder, in a bowl mix: 1 TBSP Kosher or Sea Salt, 1 TBSP of fresh ground black pepper, 1 TBSP of white pepper, 1 TBSP of Sweet Paprika, 2 TBSP of brown sugar (or turbino sugar), 1 tsp of ground cumin, 1 tsp of cayenne pepper.
Either with your fingers or with a fork, mix that up really good. Make sure you wash your hands after mixing it cause if you touch your eyes or nose, you'll know it.

Lay down some plastic wrap and set the pork on it. If you have a heavy fat cap, score it like you see in Me and Bragg's pictures. It will render out better.
If the pork is really damp, pat it dry with some paper towels or your rub will turn into little bb's. Then just rub the pork down all over with that rub (sounds sexy don't it). Then tightly wrap up the pork with that plastic wrap and put in the refrige till 2 hours before you are going to put the meat on the smoker. Make sure you set it down on a plate or something cause that salt is going to draw some moisture out and it will probably leak out the plastic wrap somewhere.

Two hours before you are going to put the meat on the smoker, take the meat out, unwrap it and set somewhere on a table to knock the chill off as well as let the outside dry. I usually put a little fan on low to help dry the moisture off. You'll get a way better smoke flavor if you let get that chill off as well as let the moisture dry.
(If your dog is in the house, he'll be looking for that meat)

When it comes time to put the meat on the smoker, make sure, if you are using hickory or some other wood to smoke, that it's actually smoking when you put the meat on and keep it smoking for the first 3 to 5 hours. After that just keep the temperature where you want it. Meat will only absorb smoke the first 3 hours or so. You don't have to have thick smoke either, just something smoldering is good enough.

The brown or turbino sugar is going to give that meat a nice bark later on.

Not sure how well you can control the temperature on your smoker, but if you can, shoot for 225 (give or take 5 degrees) for a good 16 hours or till the internal temperature reaches about 185 or 190. Less than that and the meat will be tough and won't fall apart. Take multiple readings in different places of the meat so you make sure you don't have cold spots.

When I say 16 hours, I'm assuming you are using a full size shoulder/butt.

Holler at me if you have any questions Rick.

Tahyo
05-04-2008, 04:02 PM
***** Not sure how comfortable you are with cayenne pepper, so do that one to taste****** Start out with 1/2 teaspoon. Most will come off during smoking, but don't want you to cuss me later if it don't.

Rick
05-04-2008, 06:29 PM
I've got a 5.8 lb. Pork Shoulder Blade Boston Whole (bone in). I have a gas smoker and just picked up a Poulan thermometer so I should be able to control the smoker temp. as closely as I want.

I like the hickory flavor as well and will be using it.

I appreciate the help!

Tahyo
05-04-2008, 06:50 PM
A Note on purchasing Pork.
Read the labels carefully. Hormel brand pork usually injects their pork with a salt solution. Ribs especially.
Also, Walmart or Super Walmart has been known to sell pork shoulders/butts that are "enhanced", meaning injected. You'd figure that WW, SW and Sam's Club meats would all be the same, but apparently the may not be. I usually buy bulk meat for smoking from Sam's Club and so far I have never known any of it to be enhanced. When in doubt, read the labels. I'm pretty sure that by law if they inject crap in the meat, they have to put it on the label.

I had a neighbor that wanted me to smoke some ribs for him last year and brought me about 6 packs of Hormel brand baby back ribs. They said on the label they where enhanced. After I finished smoking them and when I was doing the taste test, they were about as nasty salty as you could possibly imagine. I wouldn't have fed that cr@p to my dog.

Alpine_Sapper
05-04-2008, 07:20 PM
A Note on purchasing Pork.
Read the labels carefully. Hormel brand pork usually injects their pork with a salt solution. Ribs especially.
Also, Walmart or Super Walmart has been known to sell pork shoulders/butts that are "enhanced", meaning injected. You'd figure that WW, SW and Sam's Club meats would all be the same, but apparently the may not be. I usually buy bulk meat for smoking from Sam's Club and so far I have never known any of it to be enhanced. When in doubt, read the labels. I'm pretty sure that by law if they inject crap in the meat, they have to put it on the label.

I had a neighbor that wanted me to smoke some ribs for him last year and brought me about 6 packs of Hormel brand baby back ribs. They said on the label they where enhanced. After I finished smoking them and when I was doing the taste test, they were about as nasty salty as you could possibly imagine. I wouldn't have fed that cr@p to my dog.

I get the best deals here at Culebra Meat Market. I know they are only a local chain with like six stores, but I think every city on earth probably has a butcher shop/meat market where you can get deals that beat the "MegaLoMarts" hands down on price and most definitely on quality.

Tahyo
05-04-2008, 07:35 PM
We have a local butcher here, but he's the only one with in miles and he knows it.... prices are just crazy.
Sam's Club has the cryo packed pork butts, brisket and baby back ribs without the additives. They come two to the package and that's the way I buy them.
Other than that we have the major grocery store chains and they never have big cuts of meat other than steaks and the like. Their prices are also too high.

Rick
05-04-2008, 07:54 PM
I get my meat at Kroger or Costco. I like them both and have never had bad meat from either one. Prices are pretty reasonable and Kroger often has some great sales.

Tahyo
05-04-2008, 07:58 PM
I don't think we have any Krogers close by and I think there is a Costco, but it's too far away.
Now... just over the border in Kenosha, Wisconsin is a huge grocery store called Woodman's. Man... they put grocery stores everywhere to shame. If you can't find it there, you don't need it. Name brand, off brand.. you name it...they probably have it and fairly low priced as well. I go there for "bulking up" on variety of things.

Rick
05-04-2008, 08:05 PM
Across the border in Kenosha? Man, you live in Chicago!! They have to have a Krogers.

Illinois is really two states you know. Illinois and Cook County. You have no idea how much time I've spent in Deerfield. I had a vendor located there. Forever and a day.

Tahyo
05-04-2008, 08:08 PM
Bite your tongue man!!!! I don't think I've been to Chicago in 10 years if not more. I'm up in Grayslake. Lake County. Kenosha is maybe 20 minutes from where I live.

We do have a Piggly Wiggly in Grayslake, but man... their stuff sucks.

Tahyo
05-04-2008, 08:12 PM
Just looked up Krogers and the closest one is around 80 something miles south of me. I guess you could say I won't be patronizing their stores anytime soon.

Rick
05-04-2008, 08:17 PM
Lake county, Cook county. tomato tomahto. You got 94 running up there sucking all that human pollution right out of the city.

Tahyo
05-04-2008, 08:19 PM
Yea, you got that right, but at least I don't have that kerosene film all over everything like they do in Cook county close to the flight paths of those jets coming in and out of O'Hare.

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