The Best Weapon of the Forest

[Aqualiteking]

I was wondering what was the best weapon of the forest or a weapon you want to take with you when you go hunting? I know that bows are favoured over guns as guns kill the prey too fast. Does anyone know any better weapons. :confused:

[Rick]

What are you hunting? Where are you hunting? I don't think you can kill an animal too fast. The quicker the better. That last thing I want any animal to do is suffer needlessly. A quick kill is essential.

[crashdive123]

For what purpose do you need a weapon? Welcome to the forum. How about shootin your way over to the introduction section and let us know a bit about yourself - ya know - hobbies, experience, etc. You can find it here http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14

[BraggSurvivor]

Best weapon is whats above your shoulders. The idea of hunting IS to kill the game your hunting quickly as to cause no suffering.

I like the 735 cal. for hunting around here.

[rrsnook]

kills game too fast? what does that mean? I prefer my .270. flat shooting,good range and very accurate

[Assassin Pilot]

I think he meant to say "scares away the prey too fast". I would agree with that statement 100%. Plus, bows can be dirt cheap if you are in a crisis and can withstand some pretty harsh conditions (depends on material the bow is made of) without being affected at all. It has a lot of benefits that guns just don't have. Also laws on those aren't as strict.

[JRJ]

Marlin 336SS 30-30 for me. Great for the areas I hunt, btw I am just assuming your talking about hunting medium sized critters. These are also great calibers: 308, 30-06 and 270, 12ga and 22lr. A 22lr might be the most reliable for bringing home "something".

I do not consider a bow or even a musket a good way to hunt. I really do not see any benefit for using a bow. Ive seen arguments for it being stealthy and quiet, that's about it. If I want quiet I'll set a snare line. If I want to drop a white tail and haul it away 5 minutes later, I'll grab a rifle. I average about 10-20 yards of travel from where I hit it. Most of the time I knock it on it's butt, the deer get's up, dashes and hops a few times then falls down dead. I'm a great shot with a bow and Ive accidentally hit in the stomach, arrows deflect a bit and miss the heart, all sorts of things. A spooked deer can put hundreds of yards between the two of you before it's adrenaline rush finishes and it succumbs. Mind you, the sun is either rising and most likely setting when you down your game. I have had deer drop and jump from the sound of my string release, before the arrow hits. When I fire a bullet it hears the sound AFTER it's been hit.


-JRJ

[sh4d0wm4573ri7]

I have taken several bucks and some does over the years with compound, rifle, longbow, and recurve and when bowhunting I have never made a shot that the deer made it more then 40 yds nor lived longer then 10 seconds after impact I have used a 3 blade rocky mountain razor exclusively a broadhead cuts and kills quickly. Many a man has survived a gunshot not many survive a broadhead wound.

[Aurelius95]

Many a man has survived a gunshot not many survive a broadhead wound.

What exactly are you hunting out there, Shadowman? :D

[Rick]

That's why I asked what he was hunting. I doubt many of you would choose the same weapon if he's hunting rabbits and squirrels.

[catfish10101]

In a situation where I had to choose 1 weapon, it would be my trusty 12 gauge, with an assortment of shells for everything from tree rats, to flying purple people eaters.

[klkak]

The best weapon in the world for hunting and survival is the one you have with you. Not the one back home in the gunsafe. Caliber, guage, draw weight or type of action are really just personal choice. It has to be something that you will carry with you every time you go out. It has to be something that you will practice with and become as perfect a shot with as you can make yourself.

[trax]

[QUOTE=BraggSurvivor;38107]Best weapon is whats above your shoulders. /QUOTE]
That is, without a doubt to me, one of the most intelligent statements I have seen posted on this forum. THAT is what we're all here for.

[Assassin Pilot]

JRJ: you may be using a low quality bow, or hunting incredibly fast deer, but most deer will not be able to react that quick. it really depends on the skill you have with the weapon.

but enough about that, I personally would prefer a gun in most situations, unless it was being trapped on a desert island in which case I would go for a good bow (arrows are reusable, bullets aren't. plus it wouldn't matter if you miss because its not like it will be able to leave the island :p )

[trax]

I have taken several bucks and some does over the years with compound, rifle, longbow, and recurve and when bowhunting I have never made a shot that the deer made it more then 40 yds nor lived longer then 10 seconds after impact I have used a 3 blade rocky mountain razor exclusively a broadhead cuts and kills quickly. Many a man has survived a gunshot not many survive a broadhead wound.

I have never made a shot with a rifle where a deer or moose took more than one step (sort of stagger forward when they drop) after I hit them. I'm kinda proud of that.

[beerrunner13]

This is like a best knife thread,where are you? what are you hunting? how good are you at geting close to your target? and is noise a consideration? oh yeah and how can you kill your prey tp quickly?

[trax]

This is like a best knife thread,where are you? what are you hunting? how good are you at geting close to your target? and is noise a consideration? oh yeah and how can you kill your prey tp quickly?

yeah, that's why I said what I did about Bragg's comment. Anyone's best weapon should be the one above the shoulders, too many people are using that space just to keep their ears separated. (not saying anyone here necessarily, don't anyone pee themselves and run out of the room crying now)

[Alpine_Sapper]

yeah, that's why I said what I did about Bragg's comment. Anyone's best weapon should be the one above the shoulders, too many people are using that space just to keep their ears separated. (not saying anyone here necessarily, don't anyone pee themselves and run out of the room crying now)

roflmao...

[crashdive123]

Yeah but there are a few that have posted here that when reading about their best weapon should be the one above the shoulders were thinking........what???? My hat????

[BraggSurvivor]

About 25 years ago my mom shot two Elk with one shot in Golden BC. She didnt see the calf in the tall grass beside the cow.

[WildGoth]

That is, without a doubt to me, one of the most intelligent statements I have seen posted on this forum. THAT is what we're all here for.[/QUOTE]

that and the twinkles

[FVR]

BE THE WEAPON.

I AM THE WEAPON.

Oooooeeeeeeooooooooooooooo.

[Rick]

You can't cheat Frank, pilgrim.
Frank got it...

[Last Mohican]

If you have the smarts you can make anything a formidable weapon.

My ancestors did pretty good with rocks and sticks.

Just like it has been stated before, knowledge is power.

[FVR]

Actually, for game, I would prefer a fine thin cable.

For defense, I would prefer a 12ga. with 00 buck and slugs. Slug, 00, slug, 00.

The bow, I like bows, I make bows, I hunt with bows. Bows are great for a last resort or if you need to take game quietly, but bowhunting also requires a bit more stealth. A good spear would be pretty good.

Maybe this onehttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/FrankV/9shot.jpg

[hopeak]

Chevy's and Fords work good, Nell uses a Pick Up, with no sights.

A real Man would just wear his dress loin'cloth and jump from a overhanging limb with a spear as the pimary weapon, and have a Herter's model perfect knife on his loin'cloth belt. Don't forget your "CUP".............:p

[FVR]

Come on, I already said in the other thread that all I'd be wearing is my leather work boots.

Gett'n back to nature. With comfy feet.

[Rick]

Okay, you deer hunters. Here's a question for you. I have a Remington 1100 in 12 guage. Can I shoot slugs through it or do I have to have a slug barrel?

[beerrunner13]

you can use that barrel but ya may want to use sabot slugs

[catfish10101]

I would check for recall info on that Remington depending on when it was made. Some barrels were recalled for buldging and splitting. Other than that, I agree with beerrunner13, use sabot slugs.

[Rick]

Thanks, guys!!

[trax]

My partner used a 12 guage with slugs for hunting moose for years. No problem.

[BraggSurvivor]

Okay, you deer hunters. Here's a question for you. I have a Remington 1100 in 12 guage. Can I shoot slugs through it or do I have to have a slug barrel?


I blew the stock off my Rem 1100 shooting a bear with 300 grain slug. :(

[Rick]

Yipers. There's something about a gun giving up in your hands that would be really nice to avoid.

[BraggSurvivor]

Not that it desinigrated or anything, just cracked in half and came right off the chamber.

No warranty sucked.

[trax]

that's weird and scary (sounds like dating from my youth) How old was the gun? There's the possibility that there were really fine stress fractures in the wood Bragg, you don't see them until the final bang and then you get the result you got. Just a thought, sometimes s**t just happens.

[BraggSurvivor]

I think was about 10 years old. My dad gave it to me because he got out of bird hunting. I had it fitted with a new stock and have never had a problem since. My wife thought it had to do with sitting out on the back porch and with the humidity and differences in temperature it might have caused the blow out. I keep it inside now.

[trax]

Your wife could be right too. I've heard of that.

[Buddha443556]

I don't think you can kill an animal too fast. The quicker the better. That last thing I want any animal to do is suffer needlessly. A quick kill is essential.
A quick kill also means your dinner isn't going to run off leaving a blood trail for you to follow for the rest of the day, scare off all the other game in the area or attract predators as wounded animals tend to do. Quick and clean, the animal won't suffer and you won't suffer.

[dsgibbs1]

I have also taked numerous deer with a bow and rifle. I have found that practice makes a weapon work. I dont want to hear that practice makes perfect. As an old DS used to say"practice doesnt make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect." Now to the question. I would take my Weartherby .300 mag. or my .308. To dress the game. I have a custom hunter.

[WildGoth]

http://i27.tinypic.com/15pl36b.jpg now that is my gun

[bulrush]

Hey Wildgoth, I like the shiny gun and everything. But if it takes 500 rounds to kill a deer, one might have more serious problems. :)

[Aqualiteking]

trax no offence yuor a good guy.

[beerrunner13]

Glad to help sir :D

[crashdive123]

I guess if you don't like the answer, you shouldn't ask the question.

[Rick]

Pyrex - Enjoy the world of banned. We don't accept that type of posts. Personal attacks and name calling will get you banned. But then, you found that out.

[beerrunner13]

dang rick that was fast I read it responded and went back and poff you da man

[Rick]

I PM'd him and gave him a 10 day warning and he still didn't stop. So. bannsville.

It's not that tough. Calling folks names isn't necessary.

[JRJ]

JRJ: you may be using a low quality bow, or hunting incredibly fast deer, but most deer will not be able to react that quick. it really depends on the skill you have with the weapon.

?
I hunt in michigan, michigan white tail deer. Im thinking of trying some mule deer down here in texas but 40 acres of private, family owned land that we bait every year is hard to pass up.

Ive hunted 16 seasons.

Sound travels about 1100fps, a lot faster then an arrow. The instant the sound of the bow is processed from an alert deer it will usually drop and charge its muscles to spring. At 25-30 yards It can easily take .5 second, even longer depending on your pull and weight of arrows, for the arrow to reach its target. In my experience I have seen it happen more times then not and it's happened to everyone I know who bow hunts. I'll even go as far to say that a lot of folks will take that into consideration and compensate as it's pretty normal for it to happen outside of 15 yards.


-JRJ

[beerrunner13]

I have seen it happen a few times myself

[canid]

yeah; deer often start at the sound of the bow's release, and more over, they can easily start at the movements of the hunter as he's preparing to release, slow enough for the deer to hear and react but too fast for the hunter to realize the shot is bad. shot ethics only go so far, and that's only as far as even the best of hunters can react.

[Arkansas_Ranger]

I was wondering what was the best weapon of the forest or a weapon you want to take with you when you go hunting? I know that bows are favoured over guns as guns kill the prey too fast. Does anyone know any better weapons. :confused:

What?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!! Guns kill prey too fast? What kinda crap is that? Why make them suffer? Blow their butts away and get it over with. I can appreciate the "art and skill" of bowhunting, but I am not a fan or advocate of bowhunting because too many animals are injured and run off to neve be found by the hunter. Heck why not just from a tree with your hand axe and chop them up?? Get a gun dude.

[Arkansas_Ranger]

http://i27.tinypic.com/15pl36b.jpg now that is my gun

Can I get that in my patrol vehicle please?

[canid]

what are tax dollars for, eh.

[Arkansas_Ranger]

what are tax dollars for, eh.

I agree wholeheartedly. Fellow republican?? HAHA

[awfoxden]

use what you know. the best caliber and gun make or gun vs bow will be debated for generations to come but the common that most agree on is to practice often and hunt with what you practice with. i've used a 7mm mag since high school and though i now have several calibers that i love to shoot, when it comes time to put meat on the table, out comes the old 7mm.

[FVR]

Ya'll must shoot some loud bows. Mine are just so quiet that the deer never hear the release.

Now, they do hear the freak'n arrow hitting saplings.

As far as trailing a deer, good shot, don't need to track far. Just like with a rifle, accuracy is paramount.