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Knight of Disorder
12-13-2012, 02:58 PM
I already know I'm going to be getting one, and I've seen a couple that are nice. The name I've seen thrown around is the Hennessy Hammock. I've seen them, they look nice but it's a bit to much. I'm just looking for a sling that I can hang my own rain cover and insect tent over. If anyone has any good suggestions I'd be glad to hear them. My budget is a little slim but I can save up.

hitec4you
12-13-2012, 03:06 PM
Eno Hammocks sounds like something you might be looking for. Type that in google and it should bring up plenty of hits for you. REI sells them also.

jfeatherjohn
12-13-2012, 03:08 PM
I got my hammock at Walmart and it has worked as well as any lower-priced hammock I've had.
I have a Hennesey and it is great. The wormanship is very good.

Knight of Disorder
12-13-2012, 03:33 PM
Those Eno Hammocks are nice. Defiantly something to save up on. What do you all think about mesh hammocks?

hitec4you
12-13-2012, 03:52 PM
The only thing about hammocks is when it gets a little cool you might want a pad or something to keep you back side warm. I also have a Hennessy it is the Evader model and I love it.

crashdive123
12-13-2012, 05:36 PM
Those Eno Hammocks are nice. Defiantly something to save up on. What do you all think about mesh hammocks?

I used a mesh hammock for many years. Their best use was lounging around and having an adult beverage or two and then taking a nap. Their worst use was spending the night in them.

Knight of Disorder
12-13-2012, 05:41 PM
I used a mesh hammock for many years. Their best use was lounging around and having an adult beverage or two and then taking a nap. Their worst use was spending the night in them.

I've spent the night in one in my backyard, then again, it's horribly humid around here all year. I don't think it'd be that comfortable when it got colder though.

crashdive123
12-13-2012, 05:45 PM
I should clarify - I'm talking about the ones that ball up to about the size of a softball, not the larger ones which can be quite comfortable.

Knight of Disorder
12-13-2012, 06:08 PM
Yeah, it did to. It was my brothers hunting hammock. He balled it up with the bug net and kept it in a beanie because he lost the bag for it.

SQWERL
12-13-2012, 06:18 PM
8618 here i am in my eno double nest today. hopefully the pic will load. i love this hammock. depending on your size. i suggest the eno double or single nest or a byer travel lite. i use climbing webbing, rapeling rings, and caribiners for my setup. a lot of people use whoopie slings for their setup though. if you need to know what a whoopie sling is got the hammock forums they are super helpful. i know *gasp* other forums. also the DIY section is awesome. there is a thread on how to make a hammock out of a tablecloth for supercheap.

SQWERL
12-13-2012, 06:20 PM
also the eno hammocks have an attached storage bag to stuff it into. it has cinch straps to compress to a size just slighly bigger than a softball.

Knight of Disorder
12-13-2012, 06:24 PM
also the eno hammocks have an attached storage bag to stuff it into. it has cinch straps to compress to a size just slighly bigger than a softball.

I was actually looking at their Pronest, it's almost 12 ounces lighter then the single nest version.

SQWERL
12-13-2012, 06:38 PM
that pronest looks awesome. they didn't have that one out yet when i got my double. i think some of the weight issue with the other hammocks that eno sells might be the original carabiners that come with them are the heavy duty ones you get at lowes. i just took those off and got a set on nice light weight climbing wire gate biners from rei. i'm not a fan of the slap straps or the tree straps that they sell. it's easier to use the climbing webbing.

Knight of Disorder
12-13-2012, 07:02 PM
It's possible, but on either end that's my goal. It's as lightweight as it gets without using a mesh hammock. It's not that expensive but I still have to save up, it's hard to save money.

RangerXanatos
12-13-2012, 07:33 PM
I have a Grand Trunk Ultralight Hammock that I really like. I'm pretty sure I paid some where around or a little less than $15 for it. But that was a couple of years ago. Now, they may be up to $30-35?

Knight of Disorder
12-13-2012, 08:02 PM
I'll give it a look next time I go into town, they carry those at the sporting goods store, I think.

ElevenBravo
12-13-2012, 08:30 PM
Grand Trunk.... Its inexpensive, very well made, durable and strong enough for my overweight arse!

With a DIY underquit and a nice bag... winter camping is even feasible.

It may take some getting used to at first, but you will find the quality of sleep in a hammock is difficult to surpass!

Ive got a few hammock and hammock related vids in my tube channel.

HTH,
Andrew

Knight of Disorder
12-13-2012, 08:40 PM
If it stays like this during the winter from now on then I won't worry about it. It's not dropped below 40 and it's half way through December. Actually until recently it's been 70 out during the day and high 50's during the night.

SQWERL
12-14-2012, 05:24 AM
the byer ultra lite is at academy sports for $20.

finallyME
12-14-2012, 01:54 PM
My experience with hammocks is fairly limited. I have only slept in two (one for over 30 nights). I have lain in a couple of others. The ones I have slept in, I made myself. Hammocks are very easy to make. As said earlier, Hammock Forums is a valuable resource. The first hammock I made, I made too small. The second one, I followed the instructions for a DIY Hennesy, and made it a little longer. That made all the difference in the world. A friend of mine has an ENO. He likes it, but I think it is too small for me (I'm 5'11"), I don't lay as flat as in mine. I also don't like the ENO straps, but they are easily replaced.

If you are tight on cash, you need to make your own. It is probably the easiest thing to make.

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Stiffy
12-14-2012, 09:27 PM
I liked the ones from "Avatar." Not sure if Wal Mart carries those.

Knight of Disorder
12-14-2012, 09:30 PM
I'm looking at a couple, the ultra lite from Grand Trunk, and the Pronest from ENO. I'm leaning more towards the Pronest because I weight 230lbs and the ultralite only holds 250lbs.

ElevenBravo
12-15-2012, 02:15 PM
I was about 245 when I last slept in my Grand Trunk. Im down to 230 now. But what I wanted you to know is, even at 245, the GT didnt bust a single stitch or complain. I slept like a new born baby....

LarryB
04-16-2014, 09:29 PM
Hehehe, I Love mine. It even helped fix my screwed up back. :)9918 I don't think I'll ever camp on the ground again.

Sluggo
04-17-2014, 06:24 AM
I couldn't afford the nice hammocks,and didn't trust the cheap net ones,so I made mine.I purchased a 4x12' painters tarp from harbor freight,I then cut 3' off,making it 4'x9 '.I learned to roll and tie the hammock the proper way.This hammock cost me under ten dollars to make,it's lightweight canvas and works very well.I weigh 250 lbs and it holds me fine.

Batch
04-17-2014, 09:04 PM
I couldn't afford the nice hammocks,and didn't trust the cheap net ones,so I made mine.I purchased a 4x12' painters tarp from harbor freight,I then cut 3' off,making it 4'x9 '.I learned to roll and tie the hammock the proper way.This hammock cost me under ten dollars to make,it's lightweight canvas and works very well.I weigh 250 lbs and it holds me fine.

The canvas painters tarp? Got any pictures?

Sluggo
04-18-2014, 04:23 PM
I will post pics when I break it out of storage.The tarps are white canvas,painters lay them on the floor while painting walls and ceilings mostly.They come in larger sizes,but the 4' wide is perfect for me,I'm pretty wide and it allows the sides to envelope Me,this helps conserve heat in the colder weather.I can also push the sides down around me for warmer temps.I often hang it from my porch supports and sleep outdoors even when I'm not camping

finallyME
04-18-2014, 07:09 PM
Canvas is good, if you don't have to carry it. Great for boats, and porches, and car camping.

point man
04-18-2014, 07:33 PM
How does everyone stay warm in those things? I spent a weekend in a hammock in October and froze my A$$ off. 38-40ish degree nights with one of those 3 piece military sleeping systems with goretex bivey and sleeping pad. I never tried again.


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crashdive123
04-18-2014, 08:05 PM
How does everyone stay warm in those things? I spent a weekend in a hammock in October and froze my A$$ off. 38-40ish degree nights with one of those 3 piece military sleeping systems with goretex bivey and sleeping pad. I never tried again.


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Use an outer quilt.

http://www.jacksrbetter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/the-winter-nest-300x300.jpg

point man
04-18-2014, 08:13 PM
Use an outer quilt.

http://www.jacksrbetter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/the-winter-nest-300x300.jpg

Ahhh


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Batch
04-19-2014, 11:32 AM
Canvas is good, if you don't have to carry it. Great for boats, and porches, and car camping.

That's what I was thinking on the weight. The advantage of a hammock to me is a complete shelter in a light weight package and the ability to get me up out of the water when needed during the wet season.

Sluggo
04-19-2014, 12:13 PM
[QUOTE=finallyME;429532]Canvas is good, if you don't have to carry it. Great for boats, and porches, and car camping.[/QUOTE
Your not thinking light weight canvas,canvas used for hammocks weigh very little and the durability and strength is outstanding.My canvas painters hammock is pack friendly,and unnoticeable tied to a backpack.I find it both laughable and somewhat annoying when an idea is presented and opinions are tossed about freely without the opinionator fully knowing what is being presented.To question is one thing,to discredit the point of light weight is another.Any average thinking person knows there are lighter materials available,but for the persons wanting to step back a little and use an authentic style of material,there is an alternative,hence lightweight painters canvas.Strong,durable,easy on the budget,allows the feeling of nostalgia and is lightweight all rolled up in a easy to carry hammock,lightweight canvas is just the ticket.I appreciate everyone's thoughts and ideas,even though I tend to be more primitive in style,I do not belittle what someone likes and prefers over another!

pete lynch
04-19-2014, 12:37 PM
Who discredited the point of lightweight? I use painters drop-cloths on a daily basis. Is that what you are talking about? I don't think of them as being all that light.

Sluggo
04-19-2014, 03:11 PM
Who discredited the point of lightweight? I use painters drop-cloths on a daily basis. Is that what you are talking about? I don't think of them as being all that light.
Let's see ,canvas is good if you don't have to carry it,great for boats,porches and car camping!.......Pehaps the poster meant canvas is good,but embarrassing if you carry it.My point is and will be for the final time,for those tough,like it rough,and can't afford the super light,higher priced, nylon parachute with a bug screen and canopy,the alternative could be a lightweight canvas,which I find very non cumbersome and comfortable to carry.I still believe to each his own,and yes even you yourself threw your hat in the ring with your statement on the lightness.

pete lynch
04-19-2014, 04:22 PM
Just because we disagree on something doesn't mean we discredit it.

welderguy
04-19-2014, 04:39 PM
How does everyone stay warm in those things? I spent a weekend in a hammock in October and froze my A$$ off. 38-40ish degree nights with one of those 3 piece military sleeping systems with goretex bivey and sleeping pad. I never tried again.


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Like Crash said quilting the bottom helps, WOW you were cold in a military sleep system at 40 degrees, that system is rated for -10 below!!!!

crashdive123
04-19-2014, 04:50 PM
Let's see ,canvas is good if you don't have to carry it,great for boats,porches and car camping!.......Pehaps the poster meant canvas is good,but embarrassing if you carry it.My point is and will be for the final time,for those tough,like it rough,and can't afford the super light,higher priced, nylon parachute with a bug screen and canopy,the alternative could be a lightweight canvas,which I find very non cumbersome and comfortable to carry.I still believe to each his own,and yes even you yourself threw your hat in the ring with your statement on the lightness.

Aren't you doing what you accused somebody else of doing? Take a look at the post again - what it said to me is that he thought it was too heavy for backpacking. There was nothing said that implied it was a bad idea (the discredit part), nor did he say it wasn't a good option for you.

Keep in mind too that you never said how you used it when you talked about it. Nobody knew whether it was for backpacking, canoeing, car camping etc.

Prove him wrong if you wish. Weigh your hammock set-up and post it. Some people are more sensitive to carrying weight than others. As an example - I have a hammock that weighs in at under 16 ounces. There are some that weigh in around 11 ounces and others that are in the multiple pound range.

Sometimes the written word on social forums comes across wrong to different individuals. Best to ask what is meant if you think that somebody may have been out of line.

crashdive123
04-19-2014, 04:51 PM
Like Crash said quilting the bottom helps, WOW you were cold in a military sleep system at 40 degrees, that system is rated for -10 below!!!!

Even the warmest of bags will leak cold when used inside the hammock. To stay warm, there needs to be an outside covering - one that the body is not compressing.

point man
04-19-2014, 04:57 PM
Like Crash said quilting the bottom helps, WOW you were cold in a military sleep system at 40 degrees, that system is rated for -10 below!!!!

Yes. I even froze my butt off in it in Afghanistan with all layers. The black inside the green inside the bivey. My real problem with the bag set is it's too small for me so I don't have room inside to allow for the benefits of the air gap. Since then I've purchased the cabelas Alaskan guide bag and it is the warmest bag I've slept in to date.


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Sluggo
04-19-2014, 06:42 PM
[QUOTE=crashdive123;429576]Aren't you doing what you accused somebody else of doing? Take a look at the post again - what it said to me is that he thought it was too heavy for backpacking. There was nothing said that implied it was a bad idea (the discredit part), nor did he say it wasn't a good option for you.

Keep in mind too that you never said how you used it when you talked about it. Nobody knew whether it was for backpacking, canoeing, car camping etc.

Prove him wrong if you wish. Weigh your hammock set-up and post it. Some people are more sensitive to carrying weight than others. As an example - I have a hammock that weighs in at under 16 ounces. There are some that weigh in around 11 ounces and others that are in the multiple pound range.

Sometimes the written word on social forums comes across wrong to different individuals. Best to ask what is meant if you think that somebody may have been out of line.[/QUOTE
Along the same note,Pehaps if you read the post as I did,it says to me,canvas is not good unless you car camp,cover a boat or hang it on a porch.Not once did I insinuate the poster was wrong( though now I hope you see how even you took me to say such) my whole propose was to give options,I felt the option was belittled.I also admitted others are lighter,thats fine,I am 51 yrs old,I have no problem carrying a light weight canvas hammock,I also realize others may not be able to carry a plastic tarp,but remember light along with economical and homemade was my intention.With all that said,I may be on the wrong forum after all.I lean more to the primitive/self made as much as possible,Im not sure I'm a fit with the majority here.I meant only to help,this is a fine forum,just not for me,best wishes to everyone !

welderguy
04-19-2014, 07:04 PM
sorry to see you go, but at 51 years old I would think you have thicker skin and wouldn't let one disagreement run you off. Good luck in your search for the m.perfect forum

crashdive123
04-19-2014, 07:10 PM
This forum is what you make of it. There are plenty here that prefer to venture out in a more primitive fashion, and those that do not. There are some that make just about all of their own gear, others that don't. Stay or go - it's certainly your call, but leaving over one post that you took offense to is hard to understand.

Rick
04-19-2014, 08:59 PM
You've got to be kidding me? You took offense to that? You dreamed something up that wasn't even there. You might be 51 but you're acting live you're 5. Good luck where ever you end up.

Croprepper
04-20-2014, 09:37 AM
Hmm to get back to topic, i use a hammock to. But without an underquilt it sucks. I froze my *** of. So my solution for cold nights would be, stick to the ground and make a fire.

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Lil K
04-22-2014, 11:32 PM
I'm planning on getting a hammock, too. I've slept in one for nights at a time and they are quite comfy in my opinion. :D

Tokwan
06-12-2014, 03:03 AM
Hi guys, I love hammocks and have been a hammock sleeper since I was about 20 yrs old. Now I am 54, still love 'em. I have two good hammocks. My favorite has always been the Hennessy A Sym Deluxe..with the tarp, mozzy net and snake skins. Had them for almost 4 years and the're still going strong. The second one is something like the Ticket to the Moon hammock, a simple hammock without tarp, which I can crumple to the size of a baseball (well maybe a bit bigger than that). I am always at home when sleeping on one. I like to sleep diagonally so that I sleep flat and not like a banana.
Since I am on the Equator, the jungles here are rain forests and of equatorial climate. This means the humidity level is high and the climate is either hot and humid when it rains. When it rains , it pours. When its hot..its humid and hot. Water is very very essential.
When I hike for a few nights, I will have to sleep in hammocks. The Hennessy is very protective due to the mozzy netting.

Firesong
06-12-2014, 08:50 AM
I'm relatively new to hammocks and started with an eno doublenest. Really like it but wanted to experiment. Ended making my own from ripstop nylon. 11ft single layer, played around with double layers so you can slide a thermarest in between for insulation (half inflated). That works quite well. Ended up with a few. For sleeping at home I have a 11 ft taffeta poly/nylon blend. Outside my nylon ripstop. I inserted some shock cord through the ends of a woobie blanket for an under quilt and made a bugnet. Now all my kids and friends are getting me to make stuff for them. Very comfortable. Sleeping on the ground is hard with my back.

Tokwan
06-12-2014, 08:47 PM
I am lucky I am in Malaysia, you don't need sleeping bags or any thermal thing..just a shelter, the hammock and the live without mozzy net....the mozzies are huge here that u can shoot them them with a rifle...(joking)...its hot here and humid...so sleeping with just ur undies sometimes is best..but not recommened....hehehe

ninjasurvivor
07-16-2014, 04:05 PM
I've got some hammocks, cheap GrandTrunk and Walmart ones. I made a cocoon that wraps around it and blocks the wind and gives some insulation. But even with that it is too cold in winter temperatures or during heavy winds (both of which I've had to endure). You really do need a sophisticated setup with heavy insulation, padding, sleeping bags, etc., if you want to do cold temperature hammocking.

I don't sleep well in them, but man they are nice when you are out in the wilderness and you need to just take a load off. You lay back in that thing and its like a recliner in the woods. Much better than sitting on logs or soggy ground.