shovel

[tim]

does enyone have one of thes it looks like a good survival tool


http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/36565-12581-520.html

[tim]

http://www.cutleryscience.com/reviews/cs_shovel.html

[BraggSurvivor]

I was a bit skeptical when I looked at your first link but after reading the second link I think its a cool little tool. Good value as well. I wonder how well it keeps an edge?

[Rick]

I have a tri-fold entrenching tool and one of the older wooden handled WWII type.

[tim]

I have a tri-fold entrenching tool and one of the older wooden handled WWII type.

i got a tri-fold form cheaper than dirt for $10 it will flaten out so you can't dig with it.:mad:

[Rick]

Well, mine is military issue so that doesn't happen.

[crashdive123]

Here's one that I throw in my backpack, or even my daypack. The top picture is just to give you an idea of the size when stored. For its size and intended uses, works pretty good for me.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/EntrenchingTool003.jpg

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/EntrenchingTool001.jpg

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/EntrenchingTool002.jpg

[BraggSurvivor]

Thats a slick little unit crash......cool. Ive never seen anything like it.

[crashdive123]

It's handy. Coleman makes them. Picked it up on a close out sale for about 4 bucks.

[Alpine_Sapper]

Well, mine is military issue so that doesn't happen.

hahahahahahahahah!

/wipes tear

What military issued yours? :)

[Rick]

Okay. I guess the joke is on me but I don't get it.

1. I have an M1967. That's the Tri-fold
2. I have an M1943.

Both are US and I've never had an issue with either one. Neither one has bent nor have I broken either one.

Now, care to let me in on the joke?

[crashdive123]

I'm gonna guess he's taking a shot at your lack of military service. Although he might keep in mind that people like you and VWcoot helped make phone service possible, I like that I can call the 911 if I need it. I think that is a pretty good service.:cool:

I'm guessing that's not it. Got a hunch that there was a bad experience with some military issue gear (read - failed miserably) in the past. Like I said, just a hunch. I mean after all - FUBAR was a term used alot in the military.

[beerrunner13]

I'm guessing that's not it. Got a hunch that there was a bad experience with some military issue gear (read - failed miserably) in the past. Like I said, just a hunch. I mean after all - FUBAR was a term used alot in the military.

Amen and I have a few broken etools Ill sell ya cheap.

[Alpine_Sapper]

I'm guessing that's not it. Got a hunch that there was a bad experience with some military issue gear (read - failed miserably) in the past. Like I said, just a hunch. I mean after all - FUBAR was a term used alot in the military.

yeah, you got it. Sorry, didn't mean to offend you Rick, but every e-tool in our company had an issue of folding up when trying to dig fighting positions. Good thing we had c-trucks. :)

[crashdive123]

Sam - don't worry about it. Here, we are all everyday people.

[Riverrat]

A friend has one, swears by it, uses it for traping and camping, thinks it is a great tool.

[Rick]

No offense taken. I really didn't understand and if there was a problem I wanted to know about it. I suspect my use of the tools is a lot different and a lot more infrequent than your history with it. Probably the reason I've never had a problem. I assure you I have yet to dig the first fox hole with either one while out and in the woods. But I can dig a mean cat hole!

[Canadian-guerilla]

for myself
just as i will always pick a full tang over a folding knife
i would prefer a solid one-piece handle over a folding shovel
not that i wouldn't try one if there was no other option

[dilligaf2u2]

I have one of the Cold Steel Shovels! I love it!

It Does Hold An Edge Well! It would make short work out of anyone or things that gets slapped up side their Head, Arm, Leg, Torso. It is a great defense weapon and is often over looked as a weapon, by most people(cops and rangers included). It also makes short work of 4 to 6 inch branches for my fire. Digs cat holes and trenches.

I stopped caring a hatchet and machete because the shovel will do the work of those tools. I drilled a hole in the handle and wrapped it in 550 cord to give it a better grip(less slick when bloody).

I Would Recommend: You give one a try. Once you start caring it you will wonder what you did without it! I could see me (if it came to it) going out for a week without a knife and using the shovel for that too.

The Edge is good when you get it. A bit of file work makes it even more formidable as a tool or other! The sheath works well and I have yet to have a shovel fall out.

Those of you who have used their folding Army shovel, in combat, as a weapon, know it is effective. This shovel is a vast improvement over the folding shovel as a weapon or tool.

Don

[crashdive123]

Granted, a shovel can be used as a weapon. That's not why I carry my shovel into the wilderness though. The Cold Steel looks like a good tool, but my primary use for it would not be as a weapon.

[marberry]

thats either a big *** handgun or a tiny *** shovel , could you imagine digging a pitfall trap with that?

[crashdive123]

More importantly, can you imagine digging a pitfall without it?

[canid]

and if it does break, you can always disassemble the handgun and dig the pitfall wth the slide :D

[crashdive123]

Hasn't broken yet - I've repainted it a time or two, but if it did, I think I would fashion a digging tool with this http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2038 (see post #7) rather than use the slide of the handgun.

[Rick]

If you don't want to pack the weight of a shovel but still want to carry a digging tool then something like this might be for you:

http://www.basegear.com/udigittrowel.html

[crashdive123]

I've also seen people just breing a garden trowel with them. I guess that's about the same size as the tool in the link. Something is always better than nothing (well almost always)

[Tony uk]

Ive had the Nato spade by Gerber for some time now and have been impressed with it, I havent sharpened any of its edges however since ive never needed it for any purposes that require it to be sharp

[Beo]

That is not an SF or Army Shovel, the issued E-Tool or Entrenching Tool (Shovel) looks like this.
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1358/etoolfz7.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8646/etoolwp7.th.png (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=etoolwp7.png)