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Sourdough
07-18-2012, 02:48 PM
Knowing this could be helpful when moving in the wilderness. And yes, I did just lace up my boots for a short hike (But not in the front). bonus question why do "Loggers" buy extra-long inseam trousers, and cut them off to get rid of the hem, and let them fray.

Sparky93
07-18-2012, 03:17 PM
By having the knot on the one side of the boot and on the inside of their leg (right foot knot would be on the left side of the shoe and vice versa ) it keeps the knot from snagging on brush and such.

jhnnymwr75
07-18-2012, 03:24 PM
Good question, I don't have an answer from a specific source but in my experience in logging with my family I noticed all kinds of things can get in the knots. But that Bonus question I don't have the slightest idea on.

hunter63
07-18-2012, 04:43 PM
All the guy in the DNR fire crews , including MF tied their boots in the back or inside so as to not catch them on the brush.
Cuffs just catch stuff, like sawdust, leaves, sticks ticks etc.....

Sourdough
07-18-2012, 04:50 PM
Yes, it is to midigate tripping, same reason for removing the sew-in hem.

crashdive123
07-18-2012, 05:09 PM
I learned something new. Thanks.

wildWoman
07-18-2012, 08:20 PM
And don't go chainsawing in Birkenstocks.

tipacanoe
07-18-2012, 10:08 PM
I'm going to cut off my cuff's on my new suit.

BornthatWay
07-18-2012, 11:58 PM
Now now you know onl tree huggers wear burkenstocks. They would not be caught dead with a chainsaw and cutting down a tree.

Rick
07-19-2012, 03:01 AM
Why not just tuck the ends of the bow in your boots? Tie your knot as usual then tuck the ends in. I've always done that so I don't have loops hanging out to catch on stuff. Tie them in the back then you stand the chance of getting tangled up when backing away from Bigfoot.

crashdive123
07-19-2012, 05:57 AM
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natertot
07-19-2012, 09:50 AM
Why not just tuck the ends of the bow in your boots? Tie your knot as usual then tuck the ends in. I've always done that so I don't have loops hanging out to catch on stuff. Tie them in the back then you stand the chance of getting tangled up when backing away from Bigfoot.


I do something similiar. I tie my boots in a regular fashion, then I fold the sock over the top of my boot tucking the laces into the sock roll. I wear taller boots and none of it is visible for the fashion people (my better half) to have a heart attack over.:nod:

Delta 5168
07-19-2012, 09:50 AM
Why not just tuck the ends of the bow in your boots? Tie your knot as usual then tuck the ends in. I've always done that so I don't have loops hanging out to catch on stuff. Tie them in the back then you stand the chance of getting tangled up when backing away from Bigfoot. Roger, Rick. Standard military procedure. I've heard that some of the Huey pilots in Nam had some way of lacing a piece of wire or something into their boots so it could be pulled out for emergency release in case their feet were trapped in a crash. Anyone know how that works?

wildWoman
07-19-2012, 10:09 AM
Now now you know onl tree huggers wear burkenstocks. They would not be caught dead with a chainsaw and cutting down a tree.

Tis not true. I'm a treehugger, but still cut 'em down. But not in Birkenstocks anymore.

hunter63
07-19-2012, 10:13 AM
My reference was from guys that worked in the woods, as loggers and forest fire fighters....although there were several (most/all?) ex-military, they did tend to tie them in the back...I had asked them, as they were kinda my hero's when I was a young man.

As far as the cuffs and hems, I always though that these guys were young, tough, hard working, little crazy, and not married, .....back then most all pants came without a hem, and they didn't have anyone to hem them...?...LOL

Wildthang
07-19-2012, 01:23 PM
Just wear the boots that have the velcro flap across the front and no laces:scared:

hunter63
07-19-2012, 01:39 PM
Velcro get really full of sawdust and leaves, and sticks, and do not stay closed any more.....trust me on this....... and do catch on certain plants that I'm sure have velcro them as well.......LOL

Besides, Velcro boots means no paracord for fish line, bow drill, hanging hammocks, building a shelter, scaling a mountain..........

Wildthang
07-19-2012, 01:47 PM
Yeah and I once heard that velcro shoes and boots were only for old people:scared:

hunter63
07-19-2012, 01:57 PM
Yeah and I once heard that velcro shoes and boots were only for old people:scared:

Yup, geezer boots...used to wear than when I was younger.......still have a pair of running (LOL....running) shoes, that I cut out for the gout, kinda look like sandals now....

kyratshooter
07-19-2012, 02:44 PM
It is called "stagging" the pants.

http://forestry.about.com/library/glossary/blloggsx.htm

Nesmuck recommended it for all woodsmen so the practice dates back at least to the 1880-1890 period.

In the frontier times the woodsmen wore "knee britches" and gaiters or leather leggins tucked into the tops of their Moccs and laced in place to accomplish the same thing. The flaps on the moccasins were tied up around the ankle in the woods. In snake country they wound strips of wool blanket material around their legs hoping the fangs would not penetrate.

old2531
02-28-2013, 06:06 PM
dumb quest but why not just boot blouse them is it a no no ?

crashdive123
02-28-2013, 11:15 PM
My guess is that jeans don't blouse well.

Dennis
03-01-2013, 08:32 AM
Never to old to learn something new. :D

Old GI
03-01-2013, 09:29 AM
OK, I used to tuck the laces in and "blouse" my pants in my boots during my misspent youth, But, how DO you tie the laces on them there burkinstuks?

hunter63
03-01-2013, 11:17 AM
As my experience in back of boot lace tying an no cuffs come for many years of watching and learning from forest rangers, fire fighters, pulp cutters, and loggers......I tend to follow their lead.
Seems they settled on these techniques, and has worked for them.

Bushman
03-01-2013, 12:21 PM
Fireboots downunder come with Speedzips...............the laces get permanently threaded thru the eyelets on the zipper base to whatever tension is comfortable, I've put a couple of key rings on the zip (makes it easy to grasp) then you just use the zipper to get in and out...........a lot quicker, and nothing to snag in the bush, or on the fireground.

Back in the 70's had a similar system with Para boots but with a side zip instead...............ordinary 'boots GP' we laced at the back and bloused our Greens over the top, can't recall having any 'issues' ??

prariewolf
03-02-2013, 11:34 AM
As a structural steel Ironworker I tie my boots with a square knot and tuck the laces in front and don't wear cuffs as well . this helps greatly with tripping problems that are rather critical when working above ground level.

redneckidokie
03-04-2013, 07:25 AM
I gave up on all that and went to old duffer, danner boots with side zippers. Not sure what I'll do in a few more years when I can't reach my feet? LOL