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nell67
06-10-2007, 09:05 PM
Anyone have any practice tying different types of knots which could be used in survival situations? Which knot is best for different situations?

Tony uk
06-11-2007, 03:27 AM
I have a book on this but ive never really used it

It depends on what you want to do what kind of knot you need

kiamichisavage
06-11-2007, 09:06 AM
Bowline knots are very useful. One of the most useful knots are overhand and two half hitches!

Tony uk
06-11-2007, 10:45 AM
The Bowline On A Bight is good if you want to climb something, also an eye splice is good

spiritman
06-14-2007, 03:19 AM
I agree with everyone about the bowline, its a great knot. Mostly because you can tie yourself onto a rope one handed, without ever entirely letting go of the end, really fast while your hanging from a cliff! My most used knot however (other than the overhand) is the clove hitch. It's what I use to start and end any lashings (which I use a lot, and are amazing for shelters and other furniture), or quickly hang things on a branch. A downside would be if your using plastic type, or rope that has no stretch, it's hard to tighten for very long. All other ropes and chords hold well you just have to keep the tension point of the knot at least halfway around from where your weight or pull will be . Also, the one you use to stake something down really well (with 2 or 3 stakes) is good to know but I'm not sure the name for it.

marberry
07-02-2007, 06:42 PM
i mostly use a two half hitch or an overhand knot , bowline is good too , some of the more complex ones ilik to use the double sheet bend, lineman's knot, square knot, and the figure of eight slip knot

Sarge47
07-11-2007, 04:40 PM
One of the easiest knots to tie is the "Prussic Knot". It's very simple and is used by climbers, yet has a multitude of uses in camping & Survival!

Tony uk
07-11-2007, 05:29 PM
Found some of these:

Bowline:
http://www.troop125bsa.com/bowlin_a.gif
Round Turn and Two Half Hitches:
http://www.troop125bsa.com/roundt_a.gif
Reef Knot or Square Knot:
http://www.troop125bsa.com/reef_a.gif
Diagonal Lashing:



Begin with a timber hitch.




Do three diagonal turns across one way.




Then three across the other way.




Pull the lashing together with about three frapping turns




Finish off with a clove hitch



Prussic Knot:
http://www.troop125bsa.com/prussic.gif
A knot used by climbers. It is made with a strop (endless loop, either spliced or tied) round the main climbing rope. It can be loosened and slid along the rope to vary its position on the rope.

Sarge47
07-11-2007, 06:20 PM
Found some of these:

Bowline:
http://www.troop125bsa.com/bowlin_a.gif
Round Turn and Two Half Hitches:
http://www.troop125bsa.com/roundt_a.gif
Reef Knot or Square Knot:
http://www.troop125bsa.com/reef_a.gif
Diagonal Lashing:



Begin with a timber hitch.




Do three diagonal turns across one way.




Then three across the other way.




Pull the lashing together with about three frapping turns




Finish off with a clove hitch



Prussic Knot:
http://www.troop125bsa.com/prussic.gif
A knot used by climbers. It is made with a strop (endless loop, either spliced or tied) round the main climbing rope. It can be loosened and slid along the rope to vary its position on the rope.

Tony this post is great, love the animation!!!!

grazer
06-11-2008, 03:04 AM
I seem to use the clove hitch and taught-line hitch more than anything else.
A taught-line hitch is a very useful slip knot which lets you slide it up after tying it to tighten a line. It then holds without slipping, retaining its tension.

Basically, you do like the half-hitches, but you make a couple of turns sort of like the half-hitches, in toward the post, peg, or whatever you are tightening against, then lay the end back and tuck in the last half hitch. I like to use the variation with the last hitch reversed. I use this knot anytime I have to tie something onto the roof of my car, like that annoying neighbor I used to have, or if I have to secure a load in a truck or something like that.

A good adaptation if you have a rope that is longer than you need is to fold a loop over at a convenient length and tie an overhand knot with it or use the prussic knot. You then have a loop that you can use to tie off the taught-line hitch to.

Wikipedia has a good explanation of this hitch. I also use four turns to the inside instead of two for greater security. It sometimes slips if you use polypropylene rope (which I never use for much of anything if I have a choice).

dragonjimm
06-11-2008, 03:09 AM
http://www.animatedknots.com/


the square knot has been around since the romans and was used by early surgeons as well as fishermen

crashdive123
06-11-2008, 06:35 AM
Anyone have any practice tying different types of knots which could be used in survival situations? Which knot is best for different situations?

All good knots mentioned above. Nell if you're intereste, here are some sites with animations, that IMO make it a bit easier to learn than just looking at a picture. I prefer the first link.

http://www.animatedknots.com/

http://www.42brghtn.mistral.co.uk/knots/42ktmenu.html

http://www.tollesburysc.co.uk/Knots/Knots_gallery.htm

Rick
06-11-2008, 08:06 AM
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3087&highlight=knots

Ole WV Coot
06-11-2008, 04:42 PM
I probably carried a couple of hundred feet of rope when I was working and knots are worth learning. I was quickly and firmly told when I tied something wrong. When we lashed or tied off if the knot didn't hold or slipped someone could get hurt badly and at the least very, very irate. We even had a method for rolling and tying rope so it came off smoothly and you only made a mistake once.

sthomas
01-16-2009, 05:07 PM
I just posted this in another topic where a forum member was asking about books on knots and foraging. Afterward I thought there must be another knots topic here somewhere, where the reference info might be of more value (this one). My apologies for repeating a post, and I'll be more wary of it next time.


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You could get overwhelmed trying to learn and remember too many knots. If you learn just these 5 knots, you should be able to get by in most knot-tying situations:
Square
Bowline
Timber Hitch
Clove Hitch
Taut-line

I also use a trucker's hitch often when stringing up a shelter backbone:
http://www.animatedknots.com/truckers/truckers.gif
That's a 3-part knot - a loop, a purchase, and two half hitches. I sometimes tie a slip knot in place of the loop.
Basically you tie one end of your rope to one tree, using a taut-line or whichever applicable knot you prefer. Then you tie the loop a couple feet out from the opposing tree you're tying the other end to. You then throw the rope around the tree, come back through the loop for the purchase, pull it as taut as you can (pull hard), and finish off with the two half hitches. Works like a champ and is super fast and easy to take down when you break camp.

Here are 8 basic Boy Scout knots:
http://pack741breaksdistrict.org/photo_album1.0.html

And if all else fails, remember what my grand-dad used to say;
If you can't tie one good knot, just string together a bunch of bad ones.
;)
(in reality my grandfather was an avid fisherman/boatman and was a stickler for using the right knot for the right occasion)

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POST-EDIT: The animated trucker's hitch image link embedded here doesn't seem to display in the post using one version of IE on my laptop. I don't know if it's an IE issue or an IE and this forum code compatibility issue. It displays fine using Firefox. Here's a copy of it:
http://www.well.com/~sthomas/truckers-hitch.gif

crashdive123
01-16-2009, 05:12 PM
Sthomas - good information bears repeating. Thank you.

trax
01-16-2009, 05:18 PM
well then, I'll repeat a link that I posted way back when:

http://www.animatedknots.com/

crashdive123
01-16-2009, 05:19 PM
well then, I'll repeat a link that I posted way back when:

http://www.animatedknots.com/

Great site. I use it often.

Ziggy
01-16-2009, 06:28 PM
Try this site, make up your own mind: http://www.animatedknots.com/

crashdive123
01-16-2009, 06:29 PM
Hmmmm. Deja vu all over again.

trax
01-16-2009, 06:29 PM
thanks ziggy, wish I'd thought of that:rolleyes:

nell67
01-16-2009, 06:30 PM
Hey,if it's worth sayin' it twice,it's worth sayin' it three times,right??:D

Ziggy
01-16-2009, 06:32 PM
Hmmmm. Deja vu all over again.

oops... sorry....

crashdive123
01-16-2009, 06:34 PM
Ah - no worries. Nell's right.:D Nell's right.:D Nell's right.:D

trax
01-16-2009, 06:40 PM
Yeah, and after all, I have to applaud you on choosing a good site, plus...crash is right, nell's right (and NO, I don't have to say that)

Ziggy
01-16-2009, 08:13 PM
I read the question, and gave my answer. My bad for not reading all the thread.... Ok, so I suck... It's hard reading through all the B.S. that pops up in a lot of these threads, so I tend to just answer the question (only if I have an answer) if there's one posted.

Cut the slamming, and the intent of the forum would be fulfilled. For the most part, it is, but there are some....

nell67
01-16-2009, 08:15 PM
Uh,Ziggy,I haven't seen anyone slam you,maybe I missed something:confused:

vthompson
01-19-2009, 03:10 PM
You can go to the website http://www.netknots.com. They have an assortment of knots and they have animated instructions to help you out also.

trax
01-19-2009, 03:15 PM
I for one wasn't meaning to be slamming ya' so sorry if it came off that way. Just harmless joking around. You know that makes you part of the family right? When people are willing to joke around with you....

Sarge47
01-19-2009, 06:23 PM
I for one wasn't meaning to be slamming ya' so sorry if it came off that way. Just harmless joking around. You know that makes you part of the family right? When people are willing to joke around with you....
Like Trax said. Hey, anybody wanna demonstrate tha "Hangman's noose" on Ziggy?:eek::rolleyes::D:cool:

(Foghorn Leghorn voice) "Hey, thassa joke son, I say, thassa joke! the boys are jist funnin' with ya a bit"!:D"