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Justin Case
03-22-2011, 12:21 PM
I was just thinking about bacon,,,, How long do you suppose it would keep in your pack ? in other words,, If i fried some Bacon (crisp) and put it in a ziplock, who long would it last if kept in a backpack on a camping trip or whatever ? seems to me it would be ok for a very long time,,,, ?? Thoughts ?

roar-k
03-22-2011, 01:15 PM
I was just thinking about bacon,,,, How long do you suppose it would keep in your pack ? in other words,, If i fried some Bacon (crisp) and put it in a ziplock, who long would it last if kept in a backpack on a camping trip or whatever ? seems to me it would be ok for a very long time,,,, ?? Thoughts ?

I have cooked bacon the morning I left for a trip and had it 24hrs later. I have also cooked chicken, beef, and some other meats this way and had a really good meal at camp that night.

OhioGrizzLapp
03-22-2011, 01:18 PM
Bacon, about a week not chilled and air is able to get to it. The whole idea is to take the air and moisture out. You can do this with the gadget at this thread. Just using a baggie will NOT help.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?15191-Vac-Pac-on-the-cheap-super-cool-gadget

If air and moisture can get to the fat in the bacon, the fat will turn rancid. A mold will develope and a horrible smell will happen, both in the baggie and out your arse if you eat it that way. I would also recommend a food grade 1"x1" dessicant pack inside the vac baggie. Most butchers can hand you a few if you cannot find them at specialized food stores like restaurant suppliers will have them on the cheap.

Yoders makes an excellent canned bacon product and truly is real bacon, cooked soft and ready to plop in a pan......or wrap around a stick and place in your camp fire. They are a true mess to open and get out of the can, but is honestly a good product.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/taste-test-yoders-canned-bacon-and-oscar-mayer-ful,2481/

http://www.campingsurvival.com/yocaba.html

Justin Case
03-22-2011, 01:34 PM
why does hard salami last so long ? vinegar or something ? I know salt is a preservative,, that why i figured bacon would be a good keeper..

Rick
03-22-2011, 03:16 PM
You guys sure take greater risks with food than I do. There is no way in ... well, let's just say I would not eat one week old bacon. And the vacuum device is to extend the life of frozen items not to keep on the counter.

Salami can be shelf stable or not. It just depends on how it's manufactured. Dry sausages, like Genoa Salami, is usually moistened with either wine or grape juice and has no water in it. That's why it lasts so long. Dry sausages that are shelf stable are easy to pick out in the store. They don't have cooking directions, the USDA safe handling instructions or the words "Keep Refrigerated" on it. They do make a good trail food.

I wouldn't hesitate to dehydrate beef, chicken or turkey to take along on the trail and have done it quite a bit but I'd never attempt pork or any other meat that has just been cooked on the stove. Even 8-10 hours is pretty risky.

OhioGrizzLapp
03-22-2011, 03:29 PM
eh, we can all use a new pet "tape worm" to make life exciting..... actually vac packing is not just for frozen items. You can vac pack dry items or freshly cooked items. The prob usually comes in at when opened in the field, how do you re-vac pack them. That gadget helps out a lot. I have eatin week old bacon in the field by vac packing it with a dessicant. No ill effects that I know of.

The yoders bacon is the best answer I do believe.

This is the answer from Ask.com and channeled via Hormel via wiki.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_does_cooked_bacon_keep

roar-k
03-22-2011, 04:11 PM
Ah shucks just buy some tactical bacon and you are all set.

2dumb2kwit
03-22-2011, 04:36 PM
Pfft! I reject your premise.

Cooked bacon will be eaten, long before it can go bad.

(Who are you trying to kid?) LOL

OhioGrizzLapp
03-22-2011, 04:46 PM
Tactical Bacon..... I swear if that pig has a scope, flash hider and rail on it, I am tossing a frag at it and giving up on pork......I am getting soooooooooooooo effffffin tire of tactical being added to dang near everything... like tactical coffee, tactical rain tires... blah blah blah.....TACTICAL CONDOMS....really.... NO REALLY...........hangs my head and sheds a tear a lil...... WE ARE TALKIN BACON HERE

Justin Case
03-22-2011, 07:26 PM
Careful,, you may have a "Tactical Breakdown" !:burst:

your_comforting_company
03-22-2011, 08:14 PM
Pfft! I reject your premise.

Cooked bacon will be eaten, long before it can go bad.

(Who are you trying to kid?) LOL

I have to say, I agree with this 100%!

Seriously tho, bacon has a LOT of fat and would not store well cooked. Though I've eaten day old bacon leftovers on a sammich, that bacon is usually stored in the fridge. As OGL stated, it's the "cooked" items that will spoil. It might be a better idea to dehydrate, or smoke the bacon for storage, removing as much fat as possible (impractical for bacon). Pig fat is not stable at normal temperatures, like around 85F, it will tend to "sweat" out liquid fat, and therein lies the problem as a trail food.

crashdive123
03-22-2011, 08:24 PM
If you have your heart set on back packing with cooked bacon.....

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2396/2428831742_4522073550_o.jpg

OhioGrizzLapp
03-22-2011, 08:40 PM
BUT.... once you open the Boars Head, what do you do to re-seal it and take the air/moisture out?

roar-k
03-22-2011, 09:10 PM
Tactical Bacon..... I swear if that pig has a scope, flash hider and rail on it, I am tossing a frag at it and giving up on pork......I am getting soooooooooooooo effffffin tire of tactical being added to dang near everything... like tactical coffee, tactical rain tires... blah blah blah.....TACTICAL CONDOMS....really.... NO REALLY...........hangs my head and sheds a tear a lil...... WE ARE TALKIN BACON HERE

What's wrong with this?

http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Random/tactical-bacon.jpg

haha, so tacticool eh?

Justin Case
03-22-2011, 09:28 PM
Lololol,,,,,, :)

OhioGrizzLapp
03-22-2011, 09:29 PM
Mall Ninja food.........

Justin Case
03-22-2011, 10:01 PM
Mall Ninja food.........

You know about mall ninjas ? wow ! i didn't think you have been here long enough ? ;)

woodsman86
03-22-2011, 10:29 PM
man, to think mall ninjas get tactical bacon and all I get is country captain chicken or ham slice...so picked the wrong career

woodsman86
03-22-2011, 10:36 PM
On a serious note...the pre-cooked bacon is pretty tasty and does not require refrigeration until opened. With a couple people, a pouch would be about one serving. Pretty good idea Crash

canid
03-23-2011, 12:01 AM
things to remember about bacon:

1.) bacon is one of he few foods most of us seem to cook nearly to the point of complete sterilization, as well to to the point of very low moisture. because of this, it is initially very tough for microorganisms to grow in it if it is stored under conditions that do not allow it to re-absorb moisture. this basically means cool, dry conditions. if refrigerated, it is perfectly capable of keeping as long as it is dry. if fully dehydrated first, and packaged in a sealed container, it would keep as long as any jerky made from fatty meat, since the intense cooking has already rendered it safe to eat.

2.) bacon is fatty. these fats wil turn rancid just like any other oily food. the result will be an off taste to the fat which most people find unpleasant, and is probably carcinogenic (though bacon is already carcinogenic, so this is a matter of degrees).

3.) commercial bacon is loaded with preservatives. while these are not good for you, they are great - especially in low moisture foods in preventing the growth of microbial pathogens.

while all of this makes it sound like bacon should have phenomenal keeping ability, remember;
4.) bacon is both habit forming and delicious. because of this, if you are keeping already cooked bacon on hand for more than 2 days, no matter the quantity, you are doing something wrong.

roar-k
03-23-2011, 12:12 AM
Well Saturday morning at the Jamboree I cooked over 1lb. of bacon and no one wanted any; I even made homemade biscuits and gravy and scrambled eggs. I ended up eating all the bacon, most of the biscuits, and half the gravy. Let's just say when I got home.....

canid
03-23-2011, 12:20 AM
that is a terrible, terrible shame.

shiftyer1
03-23-2011, 02:55 AM
I've fried bacon and cooked it in cornbread which sits on the counter covered with a towel 2 or 3 days for 20 years. Haven't had a problem yet. I also use bacon in an egg dish with is good for 4-5 days in the fridge. Depending on the environment I think bacon would keep longer than most would think.

OhioGrizzLapp
03-23-2011, 03:15 AM
wow, you ate 1lb of bacon....I can hear your pipes hardening all the way from here LOL

roar-k
03-23-2011, 07:43 AM
wow, you ate 1lb of bacon....I can hear your pipes hardening all the way from here LOL

You know, it was worth it. Next Jamboree I am going to cook lots of bacon and see what happens. This time if it's turned down I am going to put some in the bottom of people's sleeping bags and then all the critters will come for the bacon...

Rick
03-23-2011, 07:55 AM
I surely must have missed that somehow. I never turn down bacon or biscuits and gravy for that matter. Perhaps I was busy spearing bears or practicing with my glow-in-the-dark sling.

canid
03-23-2011, 08:01 AM
...or practicing with my glow-in-the-dark sling

oh you and your gaudy thongs...

Rick
03-23-2011, 08:03 AM
Not this time, brother. We're talking serious bear killin' stuff. Just ask the boys.

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q348/safe_zone/boyspear.jpg

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q348/safe_zone/boyssling.jpg

Justin Case
03-23-2011, 09:38 AM
Well Saturday morning at the Jamboree I cooked over 1lb. of bacon and no one wanted any; I even made homemade biscuits and gravy and scrambled eggs. I ended up eating all the bacon, most of the biscuits, and half the gravy. Let's just say when I got home.....

I'm not sure if I would have been disappointed or happy .....

roar-k
03-23-2011, 10:54 AM
rebel said he was full on his own bacon, I think he cooked around 1lb. as well.

Well next time I will get you all with my bacon!

Trabitha
03-23-2011, 10:59 AM
Just putting this out there...
I've used the ziplock vacuums sealer thing and the seals couldn't hold up for any amount of time when in the freezer. They are still press sealed, but with the vacuum hole in the center, it leaves yet another location to fail. The only true way I've found that works for freezing extended periods is the traditional vacuum sealer that heat seals.

edited to add:
I would NEVER hike/camp out here with bacon. The smell is TOO strong and we have some MONSTER bear out here. Even in a sealed container they can smell it...and once you open it to eat it...game over. Can't very well bury a plastic bag, ya know?

thatisall! :)

Justin Case
03-23-2011, 11:00 AM
were you up or down wind of everybody when you cooked this bacon ???

Trabitha
03-23-2011, 11:01 AM
I've fried bacon and cooked it in cornbread which sits on the counter covered with a towel 2 or 3 days for 20 years. Haven't had a problem yet. I also use bacon in an egg dish with is good for 4-5 days in the fridge. Depending on the environment I think bacon would keep longer than most would think.

I've never heard of bacon in cornbread...just put the cooked bacon in the cornbread before baking it? Sounds neat with the sweet and salty combo! I've got to try it! ;)

Winnie
03-23-2011, 11:03 AM
Must've been downwind. You don't seriously think Crash and Rick would intentionally miss a Bacon Buttie do you?

Rick
03-23-2011, 11:22 AM
Weeeeell. I'm not sure what a Buttie is so I may or may not miss it. Buttie, chances are if it has anything to do with bacon I'm probably in.

roar-k
03-23-2011, 12:00 PM
I usually use turkey bacon when I go backpacking though. Seems like there is less grease and when I use a paper towel to get the excess off they are quite dry. The reason I usually have them 24hrs. later is because bacon does not last once you start eating it. With that said I could possibly see it going another day or so.

Pocomoonskyeyes3
03-23-2011, 12:57 PM
Not this time, brother. We're talking serious bear killin' stuff. Just ask the boys.

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q348/safe_zone/boyspear.jpg

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q348/safe_zone/boyssling.jpg
Thanks for posting that Rick! I hadn't seen that one so I saved it on my PC. Funny though I think I'm the only one that even saw a bear! That was on my way to the store, a cub was trying to cross the road while people stopped in the road and photographed it.

Bacon? You cooked Bacon Roar-k? Dagnabbit! I can promise if the boys had known you had bacon..... well you might have been able to get a slice before they devoured it all! Those two normally eat more bacon than me and Dottie!

gordy
03-23-2011, 02:41 PM
I was just thinking about bacon,,,, How long do you suppose it would keep in your pack ? in other words,, If i fried some Bacon (crisp) and put it in a ziplock, who long would it last if kept in a backpack on a camping trip or whatever ? seems to me it would be ok for a very long time,,,, ?? Thoughts ?

I really don't know about this one.

Rick
03-23-2011, 02:41 PM
Personally, I think he kept the bacon to himself along with the biscuits and gravy. He's just trying to make the rest of us look bad.

Justin Case
03-23-2011, 02:48 PM
I usually use turkey bacon when I go backpacking though. Seems like there is less grease and when I use a paper towel to get the excess off they are quite dry. The reason I usually have them 24hrs. later is because bacon does not last once you start eating it. With that said I could possibly see it going another day or so.

Does it taste like regular Bacon ? I had some turkey Chili awhile back and was surprised it was just as good as that made with hamburger...

COWBOYSURVIVAL
03-23-2011, 03:03 PM
I haven't done this only heard it. Maybe someone might want to try it. I seem to recall we had a minister of science on here once upon a time. Supposedly you can place uncooked pork immediately in a sealed container and it will yield maggots. Doing the same with beef is not supposed to do the same? Anyone heard this?

I think this is why my buddy told me this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichinosis

Justin Case
03-23-2011, 03:12 PM
I have heard that pork has worms and ya gotta cook it well done,,, wow,, cooked pork producing maggots ? I doubt that's possible,,, but if it is,,, YUCK !

shiftyer1
03-23-2011, 03:13 PM
Trabitha....yes I cook the bacon and crumble it up and put it in the batter, along with a can of corn and diced jalapeno. Sometimes I add a little chedder cheese also. I make my cornbread a little on the sweeter side also.

crashdive123
03-23-2011, 03:19 PM
BUT.... once you open the Boars Head, what do you do to re-seal it and take the air/moisture out?

Ya big silly. There are only seven slices in a pouch. That's snack size.

COWBOYSURVIVAL
03-23-2011, 03:20 PM
I have heard that pork has worms and ya gotta cook it well done,,, wow,, cooked pork producing maggots ? I doubt that's possible,,, but if it is,,, YUCK !

Sorry Justin was editing my post when you posted...it is uncooked. Refered to as Trichonella.

crashdive123
03-23-2011, 03:21 PM
I haven't done this only heard it. Maybe someone might want to try it. I seem to recall we had a minister of science on here once upon a time. Supposedly you can place uncooked pork immediately in a sealed container and it will yield maggots. Doing the same with beef is not supposed to do the same? Anyone heard this?

I think this is why my buddy told me this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichinosis

From fully cooked pork you won't have any trichina worms crawling around. The dead little critters just add flavor.......and something to use a toothpick on in between your teeth.

Justin Case
03-23-2011, 03:22 PM
From fully cooked pork you won't have any trichina worms crawling around. The dead little critters just add flavor.......and something to use a toothpick on in between your teeth.

Yuck yuck yuck yuck YUCK !

roar-k
03-23-2011, 05:10 PM
Does it taste like regular Bacon ? I had some turkey Chili awhile back and was surprised it was just as good as that made with hamburger...

Yes, it's quite good. By the way Hardee's is now serving turkey burgers.

Rick
03-23-2011, 05:15 PM
CS - You won't find too much of that today. Pork today, commercial pork anyway, is raised in an environmentally safe building and the little porkers are fed grain. The "farmers" even wear hazard suits because they generally raise the pigs as a subcontractor to a large meat processor and they are responsible for any loss. Back when piggies ran loose you certainly could run into that problem but not so much today.

Everything you wanted to know about pork.

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/factsheets/Pork_From_Farm_to_Table/index.asp

oldsoldier
03-30-2011, 05:25 PM
If you have your heart set on back packing with cooked bacon.....

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2396/2428831742_4522073550_o.jpg

That was gonna be my suggestion. Local grocery sells store brand ( schnucks ) that has a shelf life unopened for about a year.