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Another nice article :
http://www.backpacking.net/winter.html
Here's something I picked up from The Colorado Springs Gazette:
Don't go to bed cold. Before you head into your cold bag in your cold tent, heat some water, pour it into a Nalgene bottle, and cover it with a sock. In your bag, put the warm bottle at your feet.
corndog-44
01-18-2008, 08:11 PM
Rick; I still use the old hot water bottle like the one we used when I was kid. You know...the rubber container filled with hot water and sealed with a stopper and used to provide warmth, typically while in bed, but also used for the application of heat to a specific part of the body.
Tony uk
01-18-2008, 08:13 PM
Here's something I picked up from The Colorado Springs Gazette:
Don't go to bed cold. Before you head into your cold bag in your cold tent, heat some water, pour it into a Nalgene bottle, and cover it with a sock. In your bag, put the warm bottle at your feet.
Ive tryed this with a handwarmer, Altho it didnt last long it was enough to warm my sleeping bag and the fibers help in the heat :D
I sure do, corndog. I know exactly what you're talking about.
Granite suggested hand warmers in one of her posts. I went to Costco and picked up a case so I'm going to try them out. No, not all at once. Just one at a time. They are supposed to stay warm for 8 hours so I thought they would be good in the car as well. We cart the grandkids around and they might help along with everything else.
tracks
01-18-2008, 08:35 PM
The Nalgene bottle trick has worked for me ...although when camping Clyde thinks he's supposed to sit on my feet and he does a pretty good job of keepig things warm to. He's the over grown lap dog in the avatar...
tracks
01-18-2008, 08:42 PM
I hear hand warmers alot. They also make a body warmer that is I believe[12x15 in] don't hold me those exact mesurments but they are way bigger than the hand warmers and would be more suited for bag warmers.
Here are the ones I bought:
http://www.littlehottieswarmers.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=LHW1%2D40
I suppose you could slip one next to your water bottle as you walk and keep your water warm or at least keep it from freezing.
I think the last one on this page is the one you are talking about.
http://www.veritemp.com/Products/Hand+Warmers/
tracks
01-18-2008, 09:04 PM
Thats it,a little off on the size, but thats them.
carcajou garou
01-18-2008, 09:09 PM
For winter snowshoeing, something to consider using a tobbogan to transport your larger pack and carry only your basic survival needs on you.
Along with longer cross country poles to give you the added stability on the trail and grades.
Last Mohican
01-18-2008, 09:46 PM
Don't forget to water the trees before you turn in for the night.
I have read that you will stay warmer if your body dosen't have to put out extra heat trying to keep your urine warm all night.
That, and it sure is cold out if you have to take a leak at 3 in the morning.
On the other hand, you've already heated it so your body is loosing energy it has expended. How long can you float?
tracks
01-19-2008, 01:56 AM
Not Long In A Sleeping Bag I Bet.......hahaha....slept In One Of Those Death Traps On The Bank Of Big Spooky [swamp] One Night And Fell Through Into A Nutria Tunnel Nearly Drown Before I Could Get Out Of It...i'll Take The Tarp And Blanket Methode Thank You..
Sourdough
01-19-2008, 01:57 AM
Hot Water bottles...???? What are we talking here -35* or -45* below zero....??
What do you do about the ice and frost in the insulation from presperation the next morning. If it only warms to -30 during the day how do you get the ice out of the down, or polarfiber insulation in the bag.
tracks
01-19-2008, 02:06 AM
Thats a good point HOPEAK but if it's that cold would persperation be a problem even in a sleeping bag.
canid
01-19-2008, 02:15 AM
i'm not convinced there's a singnificant effect. you fluctuate far more in water content depending on hydration level than bladder retention. on the other hand, it is a common phenomenon to feel an increase in the perception of cold if you have to urinate, and likewise, a greater need to urinate when cold.
tracks
01-19-2008, 02:28 AM
True.. I have noticed in my self on occasion when the stress levels were high in cool to cold weather hydration is a problem I seem to urinate more and have greater difficulty keeping 'warm' so to speak even when I'm active..
Sourdough
01-19-2008, 09:12 AM
Thats a good point HOPEAK but if it's that cold would persperation be a problem even in a sleeping bag.
Yes, when you shake the bag in the morning it sounds like it is full of broken glass (ice crystals). The more days you are out the more ice is in the insulation. Large solid chunks of ice can form. And it does not need to be super cold for this problem to exist. The real problem is if it does not get above freezing for weeks, then there is no way to get the ice out. What we do is use a waterproof shell inside the bag, (never outside) with a bag liner or light weight bag inside the waterproof shell. Yes, you are wet, but it is a warm wet.
Last Mohican
01-19-2008, 09:20 AM
Not Long In A Sleeping Bag I Bet.......hahaha....slept In One Of Those Death Traps On The Bank Of Big Spooky [swamp] One Night And Fell Through Into A Nutria Tunnel Nearly Drown Before I Could Get Out Of It...i'll Take The Tarp And Blanket Methode Thank You..
Nutria, now that's an ugly, but good tasting oversized rodent.
Hopeak - So you have a light weight bag inside a shell liner inside a sleeping bag? Is that right? That has to turn into a sauna doesn't it?
canid
01-19-2008, 09:25 AM
i just use a 0deg bag that breathes well. suits me down well past zero and if it getss colder than that, i would do something about better shelter in a hurry.
I have a bag cover that is waterproof on the bottom and breathable on top. My bag is a +10 mummy bag. It's pretty rare for temps around here to get below that.
Sourdough
01-19-2008, 10:16 AM
Most people do not spend weeks or months Winter camping, or even months summer camping. My point is that there are new factors to consider if the stay is longer. As in TSHTF.
A 60 day trip is not the same as twenty trips of three days. Some equipment may not last for 60 days of continual use. But the same equipment will last for 200 trips of three days.
You are right about that. The dynamics change completely.
Last Mohican
01-19-2008, 10:35 AM
My trusty old G.I. mummy bag has never failed me. I have used it in England, Scotland, Latvia, the Mojave Desert and all over the U.S. Darn thing is pert near indestructable.
dilligaf2u2
01-20-2008, 10:59 AM
I have an Army mountain bag and cover. With a Johnny Warmer I stay nice and warm for 12 hours or more in -10f and below weather. I also have the little pocket Johnny Warmers for inside my coat, if I need it.
TDW went camping with me one spring, right after we met. It got down to 40F and she was cold in her Army Arctic mummy bag. We do not go if her Johnny Warmers(as in 2) gets out of her bag (She stores them in the bag year round) and as soon as the light fades she has them ready for me to start it for her.
We keep wool sleeping cloths in our bags and take wool blankets. The foam pads are a must. We also keep stocking caps in the sleeping bags. Now you see why I take her car camping and not across the wilds. It would break my back carrying all her gear.
I bought a yellow Nalgine bottle some time back, for winter use. I empty my bladder before bed and if need be, I can use that.
I air out the sleeping bags every morning it is not raining and have yet to have condensation problems. I do not let her sleep with her head in the sleeping bag but have her sleep with a hat (with face mask) on if she needs it.
Don
Okay, my ignorance is showing. What's a Johnny Warmer? I thought it might have been a chemical warmer until you said.."she has them ready for me to start it for her." Are you talking about something like a zippo hand warmer?
http://zippocasemuseum.com/index.aspx?tabindex=0&tabid=1&directoryid=-1&ctrl=productdetails&productid=637
Winter camping, the really cold stuff, I use a down comforter sandwiched between two HB blankets. I used to have a minus 40 degree Northface sleeping bag, but I couldn't stay in it. Too hot. My wife tried it once, and it is now her summer sleeping bag.
I also have a titanium wood stove, which is nice for drying out my bed roll. At eight pounds, it is definitely worth taking along on any winter camping trip. It does require the use of a toboggan, but I've found that an easier way to haul gear in the winter.
Any winter trip also requires the use of some good ground insulation. When I was younger we would use a foot to two feet of pine boughs. Now I use two or three ground mats. I suspect the arthritis in my shoulders comes from not enough ground cover on winter treks when I was younger.
For urinating after I've bedded down, I always have a screw top soda pop bottle along.
When I was younger, we used to heat rocks in the fire and place them near our feet at night. With some of the newer gear, mostly nylon, this is no longer possible, but the wood stove keeps me warm enough.
Holy cow! What a thread. What's an HB blanket? Is that Hudson Bay?
mike k.
01-20-2008, 10:15 PM
We just completed a Boy Scout winter camp out. We use the following tricks:
6-8" of hay pulled apart and fluffed on the ground. Most of your heat will be sucked away by the ground.
Tarp on top of the hay to ward off moisture. Tent next. Use hay, animals will benefit after it's done with. In a survival situation, use pine bows.
In the tent, Sleeping pad and then sleeping bag on top. Most low cost winter bags are good for 25 Deg. F. To improve the temp. rating, use a zippered fleece liner bag. Put body warmer size chemical heater packs at the bottom of the liner bag. I use three. Use the 18 hour kind. Change into dry poly pro underware, fleece bottoms and fleece shirt. Tuck all in to avoid drafts. Put your hat on. If not willing to change underware, at least the dry fleece top & bottoms. Put your coat on top of the bag.
Hard part, Slide into the bag arrangement huffing and puffing and fighting the zippers. Do not let the zipper win. The cold draft will find you if you give up.
Sinch the opening down, By the way, use your sweater our fleece pullover as a pillow. these will be warm to put on in the morning.
For the two days I slept out, I was warm and had no problems sleeping.
It was more comfortable than fall or spring camping. Temperature Sunday morning was 2 above and I slept in.
I have two Hudson Bay blankets, one is a common 4point and the other a 6point blanket. They are very warm but used only when its really cold. Cost goes up with the number of points. For going pee, I just get up and go to a tree, remember never eat the yellow snow unless your bear grylls :D
I have two Hudson Bay blankets, one is a common 4point and the other a 6point blanket. They are very warm but used only when its really cold. Cost goes up with the number of points. For going pee, I just get up and go to a tree, remember never eat the yellow snow unless your bear grylls :D
HB is Hudson's Bay blanket. Most of ours are older, but in good condition. Hate to pay the going rate today, often about $300 for a 4 point. We used to buy them for $5 to $20 at yard sales every time we were in Canada. In Canada, at least in years past, an HB blanket was the favored wedding gift and it seemed like everyone had more than they needed. With the advent of Ebay, this has changed, and I believe you'd have a hard time coming up with a good used one for a decent price in Canada today.
Here, unlike Ohio, an HB blanket is not a sufficient cover in winter. The two HB blankets with the down comforter sewn between them is just barely enough.
As to going outside to pee on a tree, you can do it, but that means you have to get out of your warm bedroll, put on at least some of your cold weather gear, open your tent or shelter - letting out any warmth that has accrued, etc, etc.
I'll stick with my soda bottle. Just less bother.
canid
01-22-2008, 03:07 PM
with the old ones becoming collectible and the ones from the bay so steeply priced, i don't imagine them getting any cheaper or more common.
I looked on the net and saw them at $150 and up depending on the number of points. What's the difference (he asked in blissful ignorance) between a HB and an army wool?
canid
01-22-2008, 03:42 PM
most armies don't haven't made regular issue blankets that well or that heavy.
I suspected it was quality but had to ask. Might have had a built in jet pack or something.
You can buy army wool for $20.00 (62 X 80). By the time you invest $150+ in a HB, you could buy a bunch of army wool.
These popular blankets were originally introduced more than 200 years ago for trade with the natives of an undeveloped wilderness. Their beauty and durability is endorsed by time and they are regarded as heirlooms by their owners. Made of 100% pure new wool, all blankets come with "points" marks and broad stripes in 4 or 6 "point" size.
Each "point" size blanket weighs the same per square foot. The blanket only gets bigger with more "point" marks. (Sizes of blankets are approximate.)
4 "point 72" x 90" 6 lbs.
5 "point 80" x 95" 7 lbs.
6 "point 90" x 100" 8 lbs.
Each blanket was graded as to weight and size using a point system. Points were identified by the indigo lines woven into the side of each blanket. A full point measured 4 - 5.5 in.; a half point measured half that length. The standard measurements for a pair of 1 point blankets was: 2 ft. 8 in. wide by 8 ft. in length; with a weight of 3 lb. 1 oz. each. Points ranged from 1 to 6, increasing by halves depending upon the size and weight of the blanket. The number of points represented the overall finished size of the blanket, not its value in terms of beaver pelts as is sometimes believed.
Thanks, Beo. A nice write up on the blanket from a historical perspective. I may have been living in a cave somewhere but had never heard of them.
Now, my question is why would I want to pay that kind of money for a blanket to take into the woods? As I indicated above, wouldn't I be money ahead to buy something like an army wool that, if it gets burned or ripped, etc. I can easily and cheaply replace? Wouldn't two army wool blankets at least equal the warmth of one HB and is nearly the same size as a 4 point?
I might, however, understand buying them for my home.
Its all about tradition bro, and the HB's go up in value as they get older. While I have an HB four point I also have two army wool blankets and one navy wool blanket that cost about $20.00 a piece, the HB's are heavier though.
You are right about that. My tradition is buy what is useful, rugged and cheap. Maybe that's cheap, useful and rugged. Okay, maybe it's just cheap.
Alpine_Sapper
01-23-2008, 05:19 PM
Just thought I'd point it out in case someone wasn't aware, if you are on a trip, and you find your cold weather gear lacking, wrap your poncho around your bag. It'll prevent quite a bit of heat loss via convection by providing a windproof barrier and provide a greater layer of insulation. Not very breathable, but it's a compromise if you're underprepared in a survival situation.
carcajou garou
01-24-2008, 03:25 PM
Putting a "sportsman's" reflector blanket on the ground, will reflect the heat back to you and the freshness back to the earth. Twice as much under you as over will serve you best, its isolation from the ground that is important in a cooler setting.
Alpine_Sapper
01-24-2008, 04:04 PM
First, lets review. Heat leaves your body in the following ways:
Conductive Heat Loss occurs when contact is made between your body and a colder surface. It can be minimized by not sitting on the cold ground, especially on snow. Conduction occurs 25 times faster with wet clothing than with dry. Prevention: Thickness of insulation.
Convective Heat Loss occurs when your body heat warms the air adjecent to your body; that air then rises and moves away from your body and fresh colder air replaces it. Wind increases the speed of heat loss through convection. The mipact of heat loss from convection is measured by the windchill factor. This same process happens when you are submerged in cold water, but it happens much faster than in air because of the greater density of water. An important element in dressing for the backcountry is trapping the air around the body. Prevention: Windproof garments.
Radiant Heat Loss is caused by the escape of infrared radiation from the body. It is minimized by wearing insulative fabrics or those with reflective fabric that reflects the heat back to the body. Prevention: Thick layers of unsulation or reflective material.
Evaporative Heat Loss occurs when perspiration (water) on the skin evaporates, drawing heat from the body. Changing water from a liquid to a gas takes a lot of energy. This is why sweating helps cool you off when you are hot. In hot weather, evaporation is essential in colling your body down to prevent heat illnesses. However, when it's cold you want to minimize the amount of sweating to reduce evaporative heat loss. Prevention: Fabrics that move water away from the skin and vapor barriers.
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I see where the reflective blanket will help with radiant heat loss, and I agree that the key is insulation from the ground to prevent conductive heat loss, but I was refering to a way to assist in preventing convective heat loss if you are without a shelter or it's very drafty, but you do have a bedroll, and hopefully your wet weather gear. It's just one more thing to keep in the back of your mind in case you are in a situation where you haven't had the opportunity to build a shelter, etc. etc.
Sapper
Oooh. Ooooh. You missed one!!!!! Respiration. I just learned that today so I just HAD to throw it in.:D
Alpine_Sapper
01-24-2008, 05:03 PM
I've never heard that before. I knew respiration was a major source of fluid loss in cold enivorments, as your body will use the moisture to warm the air coming into your lungs, but I never thought about it as a souce of heat loss as well. It makes total sense though. Where did you learn that, if you dont mind me asking?
Sapper
Tony posted a thread on videos yesterday (I think) and one of the links was to Ron Hood from Hood's Woods. He listed the 5 mechanisms for heat loss as:
Conduction
Convection
Radiation
Respiration
Perspiration (wet skin)
As I said in Tony's thread, I didn't have a formal knowledge of those mechanisms. I guess I knew them intuitively but had never heard them stated that way.
Here is a link to Tony's thread:
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1561
I was actually just pulling your chain a bit.
canid
01-24-2008, 05:16 PM
a little conceptual understanding of the sciences goes a long way. thermodynamics is no different. the exacting mathematics may have no relevance to your life at most times, but the concepts are fundamental.
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